Have I been scammed?

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by rstlss123

I'm not sure where I could do this in london?

Trotters on Bethnal Green road can tell you if it's real or not.
Seriously though, why would you buy a $4K watch off someone on Instagram ? Any idiot can get followers, it's meaningless.

[Danny83]

Originally Posted by dwjez14

The guy I bought our datejust from told me he would replace dimaonds the lifetime of the watch but he is also the same guy we bought a ton of jewelry from he has 2 storefronts and sales a ton of Rolex. His Instagram name is
Theicechamp. Great guy. He backs his diamonds on watches. So with that being said he replaced them with no issue

I have been to Marc Samuels a few years ago I bought a GMT Ln from there

[imgook]

Also keen to know the Instagram account you brought it from.

[Seibei]

Wow, sorry about this situation, OP. For the money you paid you could pretty much have had a nice new watch from an authorized dealer. Next time perhaps...

[A-Wax]

Originally Posted by rstlss123

well Id assume so considering hes got so many followers on instagram and sells quite a few watches on a daily basis

Sadly, IG followers mean nothing - not only can they just be bought, but even genuine followers might just be there to look at the photos. I'm no expert, but this sadly does smell like a scam :(

[artschool]

Originally Posted by Wrist King

Would you buy a Rolex from @Emrata?

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yes

she has millions of followers

[The1019]

Ask vladdy he’ll definitely say scammed there’s not near enough diamonds on it

[Xtralarg]

Looks like a poor fake to me.

[jimcameron]

Since you run an "online business" you should be able to research an independent watchmaker that runs a brick and mortar watch repair/service business. Ask them if they have a Rolex Parts Account, and question their experience servicing Rolex watches. Then have them 1. authenticate the watch as a real Rolex. 2. Ask them how much $$ to service the watch because it probably has never been serviced. 3. ask them how much to put a diamond in the gaping hole. Find some kind mentor that has experience with Rolex watches, that will assist you in any further purchases. Lastly, if everything works out in your favor, get rid of that mess, and buy a stainless steel DJ36 from a trusted seller that you meet face to face and have anything you buy blessed by a Rolex AD as real.

[JonaG]

Originally Posted by jimcameron

Since you run an "online business" you should be able to research an independent watchmaker that runs a brick and mortar watch repair/service business. Ask them if they have a Rolex Parts Account, and question their experience servicing Rolex watches. Then have them 1. authenticate the watch as a real Rolex. 2. Ask them how much $$ to service the watch because it probably has never been serviced. 3. ask them how much to put a diamond in the gaping hole. Find some kind mentor that has experience with Rolex watches, that will assist you in any further purchases. Lastly, if everything works out in your favor, get rid of that mess, and buy a stainless steel DJ36 from a trusted seller that you meet face to face and have anything you buy blessed by a Rolex AD as real.

Sound advice. Let's put it down to youth

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by rstlss123

well Id assume so considering hes got so many followers on instagram and sells quite a few watches on a daily basis

you can buy followers and then you look legit

i get solicitations every day. I assume some people maintain thousands of fake profiles and if you pay them they all follow you

[aresares]

Originally Posted by dwjez14

This was the watch. Lots of diamonds to fall off. We no longer own it now


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I've seen this for sale recently. Either this or one exactly like it. Very noticeable watch!

[DP63]

If the dealer will take it back, I'd go that route and walk away, take the lesson learned and go find a watch that's not messed up with aftermarket tat like that particular example is.

That watch is trouble you dont need in your life.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by rstlss123

No, just gave him the watch and let him deal with it all.



I dont think you can just take it to a rolex store here in london and make them check it. Its a datejust 36mm in steel with an oyster bracelet, im not sure if rolex even make these watches, I think its originally on a jubilee bracelet and I think hes added the bracelet of another rolex?

correct me if im wrong im no expert

The first thing to do is take it to an independent, respected, watchmaker and have it checked out.

Don't be overly worried at this point. You most probably have a legitimate watch with an aftermarket dial and bezel. It happens. Yes brushed and polished centre link oyster bracelets were available with 36mm Datejusts.

From your pics, the case and endlinks look good. The dial is terrible but you know its aftermarket.

Because its aftermarket, the work will not have been done by an authorised Rolex agency, and possibly also why its running +30s per day. It may also have become magnetised which will make it run fast.

Assuming its real, get an original dial for it and get that bezel fixed. Or sell it for the stones and get an original Rolex smooth or fluted bezel on it and you'll have a really nice watch.

The good news its consistently fast and may just need a proper regulation.

Can you post a link to the dealer's IG account?

[Starwalker]

you didnt get scammed...you just bought a piece of crap..it seems without doing much homework.

[mk2jag]

Bring it in and have it looked at by Rolex service center. Have them take it back to original specs, you don't want a Frankenstein Rolex even if it means replacing the aftermarket bezel. You could have the diamonds set into something else.

[Wahlberg]

Get your money back please.

[tudorbaja27]

I would make sure no one ever ever ever wears that monstrosity again!

[Ronco]

Originally Posted by Wrist King

If it helps I literally once bought speakers off a bloke in a van. They were a scam!

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So did my brother, years ago.

Hahahaha

[rstlss123]

Originally Posted by uhren917

did you get a receipt for the service????

Dont take his word the service got done! 30 secs a day is HORRIBLE. Nothing got done!!!

Saw the picture, I dont think RSC will work on an aftermarket watch like that, but I could get wrong.

My guess your only recourse is with the Seller and your own reputable watch repair shop.

Yes I did get a reciept for the job

Originally Posted by Kingsking

it looks questionable but the pictures arent resizing properly so its distorting the image a bit, post some more on the forum so you can add pics in the thread or use a different image host.

Edit: whats the sellers instagram?

@the_kettle_kids

Originally Posted by Wrist King

Love that you count the guy you bought this clearly dodgy watch off as legitimate based on how many Instagram followers he has. Would you buy a Rolex from @Emrata?

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@the_kettle_kids

Originally Posted by Flyfisher

Instagram followers can be purchased. Cheaply.

Think about it. 25,000 followers for a guy that sells used watches?

Originally Posted by gmtln

This.


A good indicator is to check some of the followers for bots, ie. profiles that appear to follow thousands yet has no followers of their own, or the ratio of likes vs followers. On average, a photo should be liked by between 8-10% of its followers.

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Honestly, that dial and bezel look like garbage. If you can return it, do so. I wouldn’t touch anything with a diamond that’s not factory.


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Can't return it at this stage otherwise I would

[rstlss123]

Originally Posted by imgook

Also keen to know the Instagram account you brought it from.

@the_kettle_kids

also sells watches under a different alias @primetime_watches

Originally Posted by A-Wax

Sadly, IG followers mean nothing - not only can they just be bought, but even genuine followers might just be there to look at the photos. I'm no expert, but this sadly does smell like a scam :(

@the_kettle_kids

also sells watches under a different alias @primetime_watches

Originally Posted by artschool

yes

she has millions of followers

Originally Posted by tyler1980

you can buy followers and then you look legit

i get solicitations every day. I assume some people maintain thousands of fake profiles and if you pay them they all follow you

Originally Posted by DP63

If the dealer will take it back, I'd go that route and walk away, take the lesson learned and go find a watch that's not messed up with aftermarket tat like that particular example is.

That watch is trouble you dont need in your life.

wont take it back otherwise i'd happily do that

Originally Posted by Devildog

The first thing to do is take it to an independent, respected, watchmaker and have it checked out.

Don't be overly worried at this point. You most probably have a legitimate watch with an aftermarket dial and bezel. It happens. Yes brushed and polished centre link oyster bracelets were available with 36mm Datejusts.

From your pics, the case and endlinks look good. The dial is terrible but you know its aftermarket.

Because its aftermarket, the work will not have been done by an authorised Rolex agency, and possibly also why its running +30s per day. It may also have become magnetised which will make it run fast.

Assuming its real, get an original dial for it and get that bezel fixed. Or sell it for the stones and get an original Rolex smooth or fluted bezel on it and you'll have a really nice watch.

The good news its consistently fast and may just need a proper regulation.

Can you post a link to the dealer's IG account?

thanks for your great advice

@the_kettle_kids

also sells watches under a different alias @primetime_watches

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Get your money back please.

Can't at this point

[TakeYourTime]

Is that one authentic? I would get that checked at an RSC. If the diamond falls off, that is unfortunately your fault as the seller has no impact on the daily use (different story for a brand new Rolex as it's covered by warranty... in most cases).

[Seibei]

Better luck next time...

[imgook]

Damn. Just checked out instagram account, lots of watches on show. Did you see all their inventory when you went to buy?

Without all the facts, this isn't looking too promising for you.

[Seibei]

OP, with all that money, why didn't you just buy a new watch from an AD?

[reecester]

Looks very fake, get the watch case opened.

[Wahlberg]

Why can't you return it?

[dwjez14]

Originally Posted by aresares

I've seen this for sale recently. Either this or one exactly like it. Very noticeable watch!

I doubt it. This one is still in the case at Marc dailies in grapevine mall Texas. At 30k way overpriced my wife opted for the root beer and Daytona now

[Dustytrail]

For starters, the seconds hand is genuine
From my experience, this is a very good start

The dial is aftermarket: the dial's coronet has a small mouth, along with other typography issues.

My best advice: bring it to RSC to restore it back to its stock condition.

[77T]

I don’t agree with taking it to the RSC just to learn how many parts are non-Rolex. They wouldn’t regulate it in its current condition anyway. There is also a chance that the movement is aftermarket, too.

Any competent watchmaker can open the back to see if there is a genuine Rolex movement inside.

Regulation to a tolerable accuracy should be possible - but what you have is a long road ahead if you want it to be all correct. Even the bracelet is aftermarket.


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