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Old 14 February 2019, 11:52 AM   #1
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Icon20 Would you rather have a 5512 or 5513?

Would you rather have a, say, 7.5/10 5512 or a 8/10 5513? Someone's going to ask for my purpose.

I'd like to daily wear it, but also take into consideration of future appreciation of course.

Thoughts?
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Old 14 February 2019, 12:12 PM   #2
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I’d rather have a 9.5 - 10 / 10 of whatever I could find.
Buy quality. Wear it and enjoy it.

Live for today, there might not be a tomorrow.
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Old 14 February 2019, 12:19 PM   #3
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I’d rather have a 9.5 - 10 / 10 of whatever I could find.
Buy quality. Wear it and enjoy it.

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Old 14 February 2019, 01:06 PM   #4
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Tough to know how your 10 point rating scale lines up with mine. Both are very cool pieces, but I personally think the 5512 has the edge. Let’s bring this out of the abstract with some photos.
Also, post a photo of your S2000. I enjoyed owning an AP1 for about 60 days before I totaled it.

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Old 14 February 2019, 01:46 PM   #5
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What year is each watch and the condition of dials, hands and movements? Price of each? I'd personally have to factor far more things than 7.5 vs 8.

Future value be damned. Buy it to wear and wear the hell out of it.
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Old 14 February 2019, 02:20 PM   #6
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Tough to know how your 10 point rating scale lines up with mine. Both are very cool pieces, but I personally think the 5512 has the edge. Let’s bring this out of the abstract with some photos.
Also, post a photo of your S2000. I enjoyed owning an AP1 for about 60 days before I totaled it.
Haha, you know F22C. NO ONE ever does. I had one back in the day. This remind my handle 'cause it was short and no one ever uses it in online forums. I drive a prius now, LOL.

Well, I guess I was just trying to make it rhetorical. It doesn't matter what the scale is...just assume both are "valued" roughly the same in today's market. the 5513 is in better condition by a smidge than the 5512. Thoughts?
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Old 14 February 2019, 02:21 PM   #7
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What year is each watch and the condition of dials, hands and movements? Price of each? I'd personally have to factor far more things than 7.5 vs 8.

Future value be damned. Buy it to wear and wear the hell out of it.
Prices and scaling are somewhat rhetorical. It doesn't matter what the scale is...just assume both are "valued" roughly the same in today's market. the 5513 is in better condition by a smidge than the 5512. Thoughts?
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Old 14 February 2019, 02:41 PM   #8
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I say get both. I’d hate to have to choose. This thread needs some pics so Here are my two. Both are in excellent vintage condition and get worn in rotation periodically.
The 5512 is from 1972 and had an OEM T-19 acrylic dome installed last month for quite an aesthetic upgrade over the previous service crystal. Unpolished and all original Serif Matte Dial variant.
The 5513 is an MK1 Maxi (1978) Matte Dial that I just had LAWW polish to bring back the chamfers and install an OEM T-39 superdome. The distressed leather strap is a nice change from the Oyster Bracelet on the 5512.


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Old 14 February 2019, 03:45 PM   #9
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I say get both. I’d hate to have to choose. This thread needs some pics so Here are my two. Both are in excellent vintage condition and get worn in rotation periodically.
The 5512 is from 1972 and had an OEM T-19 acrylic dome installed last month for quite an aesthetic upgrade over the previous service crystal. Unpolished and all original Serif Matte Dial variant.
The 5513 is an MK1 Maxi (1978) Matte Dial that I just had LAWW polish to bring back the chamfers and install an OEM T-39 superdome. The distressed leather strap is a nice change from the Oyster Bracelet on the 5512.
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Get both....why didn’t I think of that? haha
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Old 14 February 2019, 05:17 PM   #10
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Old 15 February 2019, 01:31 AM   #11
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:30 AM   #12
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Two liner.
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:46 AM   #13
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Two liner.
Agreed,I don’t care for the 4 lines of text.Then You add that you have to pay more for a 5512 and the choice is easy.
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Old 15 February 2019, 10:47 AM   #14
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:20 PM   #15
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:41 PM   #16
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Subs are two liners. Period.
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Old 15 February 2019, 12:52 PM   #17
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Subs are two liners. Period.
4 references there.

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Old 15 February 2019, 12:58 PM   #18
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How about a “no liner” from the original Sub...a 6205 ca. 1954



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Old 15 February 2019, 01:22 PM   #19
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What additional premium would you add for box and full service records on a 5512?
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Old 15 February 2019, 02:21 PM   #20
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What additional premium would you add for box and full service records on a 5512?


Highly subjective...”can’t wear the box and papers”. Big difference between original pinched warranty papers and “service records”. By “box” do you mean inner and outer? Either way I’d say the watch’s overall condition is the more important valuation factor rather than a box and service records. Just my .02


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Old 15 February 2019, 03:55 PM   #21
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I love a good maxi matte dial 5513. That's where I'd put my money.
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Old 17 February 2019, 02:40 AM   #22
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Condition is THE most important factor.

That said, the 5512 is a more special reference. Chronometer-rated, not as many made, tougher to find, etc ... Oh, and Steve McQueen wore one, if that matters!
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Old 17 February 2019, 03:46 AM   #23
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A nice, clean Submariner 5512 matte dial from the 1970s would be nice but there aren't an abundance of them out there for sale. The Submariner 5513 is also a very fine watch.
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