Please help on calibre 215 PS

[ansharma]

Hi all, you may have seen my 5116G incoming. This was preowned and I have concerns with the movement. Please see picture, I noticed some areas at the bottom that almost look empty/green or unfinished and I believe this is the 215 PS calibre. Should I be concerned?

I need to take it to Patek post lockdown in any case to see if it needs service as it must be at least 9 years old. The watch is running very accurately and strong. Many thanks.




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[ansharma]

Found this pic on the web which seems to indicate the same gaps.




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[enjoythemusic]

Looks normal, yet at 9 years old you might want to consider servicing it. It's a current movement, so servicing should only take about three months or so.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Looks normal, yet at 9 years old you might want to consider servicing it. It's a current movement, so servicing should only take about three months or so.

Thank you Steven - I am not sure of its service history but I think it would be a good idea and then will be good for a good few years.

[subtona]

If it is keeping good time I would just keep wearing it.

Service it when it breaks.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by subtona

If it is keeping good time I would just keep wearing it.

Service it when it breaks.

Also a good point. I had my breitling for 12 years and it was working fine, took it to service at Breitling and it broke 4 months later! The crown completely came out - waiting for post lockdown to take it back and have dropped them a note, not pleased!

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

It's a current movement, so servicing should only take about three months or so.

A true but incredibly sad commentary.
3 months to service Patek’s most basic and ubiquitous movement.

Makes one wonder if instead of actually disassembling and servicing the 215, would it not be more cost effective simply to replace it?

I suggest this somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but 3 months is hardly something to celebrate.

[Humble michael]

Hey Anuj, If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! As long as it’s keeping good time there is absolutely no reason to send in for service. Imo & experience, it will run fine for years from now and when it starts acting naughty PP will replace any worn parts as part of service. Just enjoy your fine timepiece. :-)))

[ansharma]

Thanks all. Unfortunately I have just noticed a far bigger issue that the seller did not share- seems like an honest chap and simply did not spot it. He has agreed to refund me a small amount.

It appears there is a gap between the bottom bezel and case as the case seems to have been over polished? As this is white gold, can this be repaired? What is this likely to cost by Patek? Should I be worried?

It is not noticeable on the wrist and I did get a great deal.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by james272

Hey Anuj, If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! As long as it’s keeping good time there is absolutely no reason to send in for service. Imo & experience, it will run fine for years from now and when it starts acting naughty PP will replace any worn parts as part of service. Just enjoy your fine timepiece. :-)))

Many thanks James - makes complete sense!


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by ansharma

Thanks all. Unfortunately I have just noticed a far bigger issue that the seller did not share- seems like an honest chap and simply did not spot it. He has agreed to refund me a small amount.

It appears there is a gap between the bottom bezel and case as the case seems to have been over polished? As this is white gold, can this be repaired? What is this likely to cost by Patek? Should I be worried?

It is not noticeable on the wrist and I did get a great deal.

Not sure I can see the gap you are referring to. The factory can add gold but I believe it is expensive and could take quite a while. If the case is watertight to spec I would leave it alone.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Not sure I can see the gap you are referring to. The factory can add gold but I believe it is expensive and could take quite a while. If the case is watertight to spec I would leave it alone.

Thanks - here is the gap:

[ansharma]

Update - it turns out the original shape is like this - phew!!! Here is another pic of the net with the gap. I assume it is used to open the back. Thanks all!




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[danicasi2002]

Originally Posted by ansharma

Update - it turns out the original shape is like this - phew!!! Here is another of the net with the gap. Thanks all!




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What do you think is the purpose of having that gap there? I wonder what the Service Center says once you bring it over.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by danicasi2002

What do you think is the purpose of having that gap there? I wonder what the Service Center says once you bring it over.

I think it is for opening the watch which makes sense as there are no screws it is also why the movement cover has a lip.


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[martinr]

[QUOTE=ansharma;10594685]I think it is for opening the watch which makes sense as there are no screws it is also why the movement cover has a lip.



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That is correct. The case back on my 5905 had the same gap or slot to insert a tool.

[ansharma]

[QUOTE=martinr;10594717]

Originally Posted by ansharma

I think it is for opening the watch which makes sense as there are no screws it is also why the movement cover has a lip.



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That is correct. The case back on my 5905 had the same gap or slot to insert a tool.

Thanks for confirming- was concerned it was going to cost a fortune to sort out!

[Calatrava r]

The watch back is removed by the tab. I do not think the rest of the case cannot be opened or taken apart by the owner. The gap in the side of the case is not normal and looks to be over polishing. Those seams should be even and tight on the sides.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

The watch back is removed by the tab. I do not think the rest of the case cannot be opened or taken apart by the owner. The gap in the side of the case is not normal and looks to be over polishing. Those seams should be even and tight on the sides.

Thanks - perhaps it is to remove the back bezel and is model specific. I have had a look at 2 other 5116Gs and they have the same gap as mine so surely not a coincidence and that area of the watch is probably the safest at the back of the wrist so unlikely to require that amount of polishing to lose metal.






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[martinr]

Originally Posted by ansharma

Thanks - perhaps it is to remove the back bezel and is model specific. I have had a look at 2 other 5116Gs and they have the same gap as mine so surely not a coincidence and that area of the watch is probably the safest at the back of the wrist so unlikely to require that amount of polishing to lose metal.






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This is a new 5172. Same gap. Your watch is OK nothing to worry about.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by martinr

This is a new 5172. Same gap. Your watch is OK nothing to worry about.

Perfect - thank you ever so much, appreciate it.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by ansharma

Perfect - thank you ever so much, appreciate it.

From the pictures it looks like the gap is there to provide a pivot point to open the back. Without the gap, the back would be too snug and contained by the case to open.

[ansharma]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

From the pictures it looks like the gap is there to provide a pivot point to open the back. Without the gap, the back would be too snug and contained by the case to open.

Makes senses - many thanks.