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Old 25 January 2020, 08:36 AM   #31
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You’re easily shocked.
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:42 AM   #32
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You’re easily shocked.


Well Tony was 10 years younger then, I’m
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:48 AM   #33
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:49 AM   #34
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Honestly, I couldn't care less if it hacks or not... It's a work of art..the fact that they tell time is a nice extra :)
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Old 26 January 2020, 12:31 AM   #35
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I love Patek, but honest speaking I doubt the movement is the best in the world. Ive read grand seiko, somehow japanese can be better.

Also, Rolex have a good durability movement. Not easily broke and have good PR.

Patek is more historical, classic and prestige. I doubt Patek movement. My 5712 PR sometimes only 36 hours of power reserve. Ive read on other thread, other people experience this too.

5711 the second hand dont stop is silly, Patek should fix this.
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Old 26 January 2020, 12:47 AM   #36
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Another old thread, nearly got caught with my pants down again! But... this time I win!


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Old 26 January 2020, 12:47 AM   #37
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5711 the second hand dont stop is silly, Patek should fix this.
Which they did last year...
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Old 26 January 2020, 12:50 AM   #38
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Old 26 January 2020, 12:51 AM   #39
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Which they did last year...
I’ve also been living under a rock
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Old 26 January 2020, 01:16 AM   #40
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Haute Horology isn’t about telling time.....
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Old 26 January 2020, 01:53 AM   #41
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Haute Horology isn’t about telling time.....
It’s being subtle enough that the FU print is invisible. Totally
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Old 26 January 2020, 02:02 AM   #42
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It’s being subtle enough that the FU print is invisible. Totally


I used to write FU and such like on some emails back in the day, in white font so the reader didn’t see. And then Blackberrys came out and it caught me out. Bad times!!


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Old 26 January 2020, 02:06 AM   #43
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I used to write FU and such like on some emails back in the day, in white font so the reader didn’t see. And then Blackberrys came out and it caught me out. Bad times!!


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I walk around with my pants down,... but I think some people got the wrong message.
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Old 26 January 2020, 02:07 AM   #44
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I walk around with my pants down,... but I think some people got the wrong message.


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Old 26 January 2020, 02:10 AM   #45
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Also they get the wrong message when I say balls deep
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Old 26 January 2020, 02:11 AM   #46
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As was posted a little earlier the 5711 from mid 2019 has newer movement the 26-330 and it hacks

mine a late 2019 has newer movement so where the older 324 movement ones are worth X2 the new movement ones are worth X4 hahaha.

no hacking urgggghhhhh.
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Old 26 January 2020, 02:13 AM   #47
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Little did I expect that there would still be interest in this topic after 10 years. I just thought it would be fun to revive a 10 year old thread.

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Old 26 January 2020, 02:15 AM   #48
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Ha ha - yeah, used it in a Board Meeting once, went down very badly with fellow Board Members!!


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Old 26 January 2020, 02:31 AM   #49
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Subtly worked it in to my “what I’m grateful for” remarks at Thanksgiving. Those are the moments you really discover who gets you. (Thanks, grandpa.)
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Old 26 January 2020, 02:55 AM   #50
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Old 26 January 2020, 10:04 PM   #51
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My PP 5711 looses 2 sec in 3 days. It’s amazingly accurate.
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Old 27 January 2020, 01:22 AM   #52
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Haute Horology isn’t about telling time.....
actually it should be, otherwise design defeats the purpose. or as Gertrude stein would probably say, a watch is a watch is a watch is a watch.....
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Old 27 January 2020, 01:33 AM   #53
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Haute Horology isn’t about telling time.....
The rest, to me, is irrelevant if a watch cannot be accurately set to the precise time, keep the precise time and is legible. No watch is worth a loss of function.
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Old 27 January 2020, 01:41 AM   #54
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actually it should be, otherwise design defeats the purpose. or as Gertrude stein would probably say, a watch is a watch is a watch is a watch.....


To a degree I say facetiously - as an avid enthusiast and collector for the last 25 ish years I appreciate the engineering and mechanics around watchmaking and my favorite references, but nowadays watches have truly become more status symbols and jewelry (we can debate this until we all get carpal tunnel) than time pieces. And who doesn’t have a smartphone?

A friend of mine and Daytona collector said to me YEARS and YEARS ago - one doesn’t wear a Daytona to tell the time, but to show the time.

It is what it is. Some agree, some disagree as is what this forum has become.

Haute horology, Patek, AP and others have never truly concerned themselves with accuracy....and if your watch isn’t +2/-2 does one really get THAT confused as to what time it really is?


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Old 27 January 2020, 03:08 AM   #56
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To a degree I say facetiously - as an avid enthusiast and collector for the last 25 ish years I appreciate the engineering and mechanics around watchmaking and my favorite references, but nowadays watches have truly become more status symbols and jewelry (we can debate this until we all get carpal tunnel) than time pieces. And who doesn’t have a smartphone?

A friend of mine and Daytona collector said to me YEARS and YEARS ago - one doesn’t wear a Daytona to tell the time, but to show the time.

It is what it is. Some agree, some disagree as is what this forum has become.

Haute horology, Patek, AP and others have never truly concerned themselves with accuracy....and if your watch isn’t +2/-2 does one really get THAT confused as to what time it really is?


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i do agree that watches are also jewellery and status symbols but their design should - IMHO - revolve around measuring time of which setting is an important part.
if a movement of a top company like patek does not hack then the conclusion for me is that the manufacturer is not offering the best time-keeping technology for mechanical watches. the only reason i can come up with is saving resources in movement design.
btw my 5170P (and i guess all 5170s) does hack.
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Old 27 January 2020, 03:20 AM   #57
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i do agree that watches are also jewellery and status symbols but their design should - IMHO - revolve around measuring time of which setting is an important part.

if a movement of a top company like patek does not hack then the conclusion for me is that the manufacturer is not offering the best time-keeping technology for mechanical watches. the only reason i can come up with is saving resources in movement design.

btw my 5170P (and i guess all 5170s) does hack.


I don’t disagree.

Perhaps it’s Pateks way of ‘concentrating’ more on the more complicated references.

TS did say in an interview that they had no intention of stainless references ‘taking over’....

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I don’t disagree.

Perhaps it’s Pateks way of ‘concentrating’ more on the more complicated references.

TS did say in an interview that they had no intention of stainless references ‘taking over’....

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well, in their defence, they made 5711 hacking, for a start.
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I do agree it's odd that hacking is not supported but PP does make gradual improvements such as the non-magnetic hairsprings that bring it to the next level of timekeeping.

Also they need to bring the 5740's folding mechanism to the mainstream because the current clasps are flimsy!
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Old 30 January 2020, 12:53 PM   #60
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I was so shocked to learn that the Patek Philippe 5711 Nautilus is non hacking!

What??

That is pretty insane. I mean no disrespect, I’m sure Patek has earned its status and respect with hard work and beautiful watches.

But damn.

That’s a lot of money for a watch that doesn’t hack. That would bother me a bit.

I know a lot of watch fans don’t care whether a watch hacks or not.... maybe I’m just not on that level of maturity yet, but I like watches that hack.
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