Your not popular opinions.

[zengineer]

The ceramic bezel is an eyesore on the Daytona and has forever ruined it's sleet appearance.

The lack of "lug overhang" test is way past the point where a watch is too big for your wrist.

Oysterflex is a rubber strap that belongs on a dive watch worn with a Tshirt .

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[minute_man]

Rolex watches are overpriced even at MSRP.

I don't mind Tudor swapping out in-house movements during a service.

I dislike Gerald Genta watches.

I would have a vintage piece fully serviced by RSC to wear daily.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by superdog

So this thread is essentially about insulting people?

Re-reading this morning and have to agree, in some cases.

My observation about my AD stands tho

[austinp]

Watches under 40 mm are too small for me.

Sneakers paired with a suit needs to stop.


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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by superdog

So this thread is essentially about insulting people?

[1William]

The small watch crowd is the loudest and most overstated group out there right now. They never stop. It is not about the value of the watch it is about the watch.

[GSDLover]

Originally Posted by daveathall

A watch that is scratched doesn't have character, it's just a scratched watch.

Yes!!
Somebody finally said it.
You careless boob, you scratched your watch. Truth.

[airchitect]

Though I love watches, I honestly don’t care for many of them. Dress watches and delicate watches as a whole seem silly to me (I’m looking at you AP, PP, VC, RM, Grubel, etc)

The Speedmaster looks better than a Daytona but it’s not as durable from a liquid standpoint so….

My Rolex love started with the Pepsi when I was 5 or so. I still say it’s the best in the lineup.

The black sub is friggin boring

People who buy anything over retail (esp watches) aren’t wise

Saying something that’s appreciating can’t be an investment isn’t wise either

We are all clowns for paying 10k for a product that cost 800 bucks to make.

We are all sick sick people


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[superdog]

I was just about to do a "if you cannot beat em, join em" type post.

but decided against it. I tend to have the ability to cut deep. And really don't want to be responsible for any of the extra therapy sessions some of you will need if I get started.

always prefer to try and make people feel good, not bad.

I will just leave this particular thread behind.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by superdog

I was just about to do a "if you cannot beat em, join em" type post.

but decided against it. I tend to have the ability to cut deep. And really don't want to be responsible for any of the extra therapy sessions some of you will need if I get started.

always prefer to try and make people feel good, not bad.

I will just leave this particular thread behind.

An homage to the words of Spiderman’s wise Uncle Ben: With great power comes great responsibility

[enjoythemusic]

The 'Holy Trinity' was a 1960s marketing scheme as quartz timepieces were far more accurate and less costly to produce too.

[Star Ferry]

Many (obviously not most or all) of the Rolex-or-bust crowd who hate on “lesser” luxury brands like TAG, Tudor, IWC, Omega and Breitling cannot even afford those brands. That is, they couldn’t walk into a boutique and grab a watch or two on a whim. Getting their Rolex was a huge production that required saving up, getting permission from their wife, etc.

[JTL31]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

A $20 watch can be just as appealing as an $20,000 watch.

They are to me as well.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

3. 5K+ watches with base off the shelf movements (SW200) is theft. (I'm looking at you
IWC, Bremont, B&R, and Breitling)

Yes! And don't forget the ultimate offenders: quartz Cartiers.

Originally Posted by Charlie Tango

1. There are better ways to store value than a safe full of unworn Rolexes

Unless you are a Rolex AD

Originally Posted by ts3

1. AP is a one watch brand while Patek's vast lineup lacks coherence and appears ever more arbitrary.
2. IWC lost the plot in the early 2000s. For good.

Interesting observations, and I'll join you in that minority viewpoint .

I'd be fine with PP's lack of coherence if the pieces were truly unique (a kind of coherence unto itself). Sadly, not the case anymore.

And IWC is but a shadow of what it once was. I started losing interest when the watches began growing for the sake of growing, found myself quite turned off by the (boastful) revival of Luftwaffe-commissioned designs, and became genuinely perplexed by the engraving of a Luftwaffe aircraft on the back of a watch made famous by its RAF association.

Originally Posted by JSolution

Oysterflex bugs me because it’s dark grey rather than black and doesn’t match the black on the watch! Never ever heard anyone agree with this lol

That's because you have it on the wrong watch! It was launched on the YM, with matte finishes on both its dial and bezel. What bugs me about it is that it only ever came in a single version.

Originally Posted by AF_Rob

1. This "shortage" is artificially created.
2. Men can wear 34mm.
3. Today, Omega is better than Rolex.

Many of these other unpopular opinions I agree with.

First two are spot on. I don't own an Omega, so cannot comment, but also have seen evidence suggesting you aren't wrong.

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

The 'Holy Trinity' was a 1960s marketing scheme as quartz timepieces were far more accurate and less costly to produce too.

I'd argue for a "new" Holy Trinity - but this time one of science, not art. AP/PP/VC own the tip of the latter pyramid. But Rolex, Omega, and Grand Seiko have contributed far more to the science of mechanical watchmaking than anyone else in the past 50 years. Water resistance. Anti-magnetism. Accuracy. Power reserve. Use of nontraditional materials in movements. Production at scale. And generally improving the simplest things (for the wearer) to the greatest degree.

[RyanJ]

Rolex makes a lot of mistakes. People need to stop defending everything Rolex does.

Watches are investments plain and simple. Good or bad is up to the buyer.

Most people are lying if they say value (current, future, past) plays no part in their purchase decision.

There is nothing special about a Rolex. You are not rich, you have not succeeded in life, and you have not made it simply because you have a Rolex. All it means is, like millions of others, you paid money for a watch.

People that pay over MSRP are no different than flippers. Buyers perpetuate the hype far more than the flippers.

Men can wear smaller watches. That doesn't mean that some small watches don't look stupid on some men.

ALS is superior to Patek. If ALS had not been shutdown due to communism and war then there would not even be a question.

Glashutte Original, like JLC, is probably one of the most underrated watchmakers.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by dannyp

I'd argue for a "new" Holy Trinity - but this time one of science, not art. AP/PP/VC own the tip of the latter pyramid. But Rolex, Omega, and Grand Seiko have contributed far more to the science of mechanical watchmaking than anyone else in the past 50 years. Water resistance. Anti-magnetism. Accuracy. Power reserve. Use of nontraditional materials in movements. Production at scale. And generally improving the simplest things (for the wearer) to the greatest degree.

i think grand seiko is overrated, especially at their price points. their lineup feels uninspired besides a few watches and they're charging rolex prices. the heritage collection, which i believe is their most praised line, is essentially a rolex OP. they do have nice dials though and a very niche crowd that seems to enjoy hating on rolex/rolex owners. i find it very strange how they would pay 7k for a watch that looks like a rolex just to not own a rolex because it's not a "watch enthusiast's" watch

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by huncho

i think grand seiko is overrated, especially at their price points. their lineup feels uninspired besides a few watches and they're charging rolex prices. the heritage collection, which i believe is their most praised line, is essentially a rolex OP. they do have nice dials though and a very niche crowd that seems to enjoy hating on rolex/rolex owners. i find it very strange how they would pay 7k for a watch that looks like a rolex just to not own a rolex because it's not a "watch enthusiast's" watch

Grand Seiko does a great job I think, but historically they targeted old-school Japanese collectors who preferred a Made in Japan watch. Now they are drawing a wider audience, including some Western customers who just hate anything popular. I saw a Grand Seiko GMT the other day that looked exactly like an Explorer II and was pretty confused

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SMD

Meaning they are too ubiquitous?

I feel like a d bag wearing them. That’s a me problem sure but I gather many feel the same way.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Many (obviously not most or all) of the Rolex-or-bust crowd who hate on “lesser” luxury brands like TAG, Tudor, IWC, Omega and Breitling cannot even afford those brands. That is, they couldn’t walk into a boutique and grab a watch or two on a whim. Getting their Rolex was a huge production that required saving up, getting permission from their wife, etc.

And the logical continuation of this is that many can’t afford to buy brands that might depreciate. If they could they might consider a lot of different options.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by huncho

i think grand seiko is overrated, especially at their price points. their lineup feels uninspired besides a few watches and they're charging rolex prices. the heritage collection, which i believe is their most praised line, is essentially a rolex OP. they do have nice dials though and a very niche crowd that seems to enjoy hating on rolex/rolex owners. i find it very strange how they would pay 7k for a watch that looks like a rolex just to not own a rolex because it's not a "watch enthusiast's" watch

I think the watches look "nice enough" (though I do appreciate that GS offers more watches with smaller diameters). However this is a question of under the hood. Innovations like Spring Drive make the brand interesting to follow in terms of technological developments, even if I ultimately prefer Swiss watches.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by GB-man

And the logical continuation of this is that many can’t afford to buy brands that might depreciate. If they could they might consider a lot of different options.

Gotta “buy it right” with those luxury goods

[GradyPhilpott]

Wow! There's a lot of pent-up emoton here.

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[Stud Screw]

After the first 50 or so “congrats” replies to an “Incoming!” post, we can freely cease and desist.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I feel like a d bag wearing them. That’s a me problem sure but I gather many feel the same way.

Understood. I left NYC in the summer and moved to mountains and now can where anything as people are more interested in pimped out Subarus and Merc sprinter vans than watches. I can actually wear my openworked without concern at all. Would never do that in Manhattan.

[Giovannibravo]

Originally Posted by TheWatchmen

The OP41 has way too much dial space and it’s proportions are cartoonish.

I agree with this one.

[White Collar Boy]

That ABBA are *almost* as good as The Beatles.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by superdog

So this thread is essentially about insulting people?

I hear you but it is just opinions on materialistic possessions, I don’t like BMW’s it’s also okay someone doesn’t like my French cars we can all get along you know with different tastes and beliefs. Goodness me.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

That ABBA are *almost* as good as The Beatles.

That’s obviously flawed thinking Matt

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SMD

Understood. I left NYC in the summer and moved to mountains and now can where anything as people are more interested in pimped out Subarus and Merc sprinter vans than watches. I can actually wear my openworked without concern at all. Would never do that in Manhattan.

Genius. To be honest where I’m at it’s of relatively little concern as well I’m just in my own head.

You head to VT? Out west? I’ve always wanted to just pack it in and move to stowe myself.

[espanol]

Here’s one; watches can be enjoyed any way possible! No “this is better than that,” and “this shouldn’t exist” blah blah. Unpopular, yes, but these are mechanical trinkets.