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Pureform · 10 November 2018, 12:48 AM

BLRO end link snaps ...posted by a member here... Had 2 more people tell me it happened to them with white gold and steel? I was told that the new steel also is much softer then the old pre ceramic models... The ceramic steel dents,scratches and looks like they snap easier then the older 316L steel... Never seen this happen to Pre ceramics...

Also WG DAYDATE 2

Lo100169 · 10 November 2018, 12:52 AM

pre-ceramic is using 904L too, there was no change between the 5 and 6 digits when it comes to the steel that is being used.

ltmgeller · 10 November 2018, 12:55 AM

Wouldn't the oyster bracelet on the BLRO be white gold?

lenfried29 · 10 November 2018, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ltmgeller

Wouldn't the oyster bracelet on the BLRO be white gold?

Yep, exactly.

DP63 · 10 November 2018, 12:58 AM

Um ... forgive my ignorance ... but how did that manage to snap?

jsausley · 10 November 2018, 12:59 AM

Something doesn't add up. The steel is no different ceramic to non-ceramic. The 316L/904L transition was earlier.

Furthermore if you have a BLRO with an oyster bracelet, that should be white gold.

sillo · 10 November 2018, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lo100169

pre-ceramic is using 904L too, there was no change between the 5 and 6 digits when it comes to the steel that is being used.

The bracelets of the 5 digits still used 316 for the bracelets though.

toolr · 10 November 2018, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sillo38

The bracelets of the 5 digits still used 316 for the bracelets though.

I believe you are correct. The OP post appears a bit misleading as both exmaples are of WG, not SS.

sillo · 10 November 2018, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by toolr

The OP post appears a bit misleading as both exmaples are of WG, not SS.

Definitely, and if the new steel was indeed "softer" there's even less chance it would fail like that.

schoolboy · 10 November 2018, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DP63

Um ... forgive my ignorance ... but how did that manage to snap?

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fosbibr · 10 November 2018, 01:37 AM

well..... I'm a little confused as the 1st pics are from my posting. OP does say they are from other members, but doesn't have any context / knowledge.

Anyway - 1st pics are from a WG BLRO. Not sure how it actually came undone, as I realized it was broken when I took the bracelet off to put on a strap. The end link is 3 separate pieces - polished center section and 2 brushed sides with a rod (but not the springbar) holding it together. Apparently the rod cracked. Sent it to Dallas RSC and its being repaired.

m j b · 10 November 2018, 01:44 AM

All of that stuff holding together bracelets are a pressure fit. Except for the links obviously held together by screws.

The OP is misleading in his description and assumptions.

lenfried29 · 10 November 2018, 02:16 AM

WG is a lot softer then 316L or 904L.

j-watch · 10 November 2018, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m j b

All of that stuff holding together bracelets are a pressure fit. Except for the links obviously held together by screws.

The OP is misleading in his description and assumptions.

This exactly! Those pieces are press fit using pins. Looks like the pin failed, or the press fit wasn't tight enough. Nothing "snapped" as the OP stated, it simply "came apart".

Very misleading and uninformed. Sorry!

Etschell · 10 November 2018, 02:25 AM

bracelets arent ceramic op. and pre ceramic still has solid end links. geeze.

SearChart · 10 November 2018, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fosbibr

well..... I'm a little confused as the 1st pics are from my posting. OP does say they are from other members, but doesn't have any context / knowledge.

Anyway - 1st pics are from a WG BLRO. Not sure how it actually came undone, as I realized it was broken when I took the bracelet off to put on a strap. The end link is 3 separate pieces - polished center section and 2 brushed sides with a rod (but not the springbar) holding it together. Apparently the rod cracked. Sent it to Dallas RSC and its being repaired.

They are, I took that picture of the DDII WG bracelet a while ago.

This happens from time to time, I've seen it on WG, SS, TT, YG so far...

arcentaur · 10 November 2018, 02:39 AM

ceramic steel??

Finslayer83 · 10 November 2018, 03:12 AM

I was under the impression that 16610 / 16710 / 14060 used 904 on the bracelets.

envuks · 10 November 2018, 03:13 AM

Seems like these statements and conclusions by the OP aren’t totally factual...

Pureform · 10 November 2018, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by envuks

Seems like these statements and conclusions by the OP aren’t totally factual...

Factual...

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Originally Posted by SearChart

They are, I took that picture of the DDII WG bracelet a while ago.

This happens from time to time, I've seen it on WG, SS, TT, YG so far...

SearChart · 10 November 2018, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pureform

Factual...

Well it has nothing to do with the material.

It is the way the solid end link is constructed, the old end links were one piece and this could never happen.

Pureform · 10 November 2018, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Well it has nothing to do with the material.

It is the way the solid end link is constructed, the old end links were one piece and this could never happen.

Means pre ceramics hollow are more durable..

Tool watch vs luxury watch... end of convo

R!$ · 10 November 2018, 03:27 AM

Wow thats not good :(

sillo · 10 November 2018, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Finslayer83

I was under the impression that 16610 / 16710 / 14060 used 904 on the bracelets.

Nope, I believe the first reference to have all 904 construction was the 116710. Prior to that just the case was 904 and the bracelet was 316.

SearChart · 10 November 2018, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pureform

Means pre ceramics hollow are more durable..

Tool watch vs luxury watch... end of convo

You can bend hollow end links, you cannot bend solid end links.

And even though I've seen this a few times, I handle a lot of Rolex watches every day... So the chance that this happens to your end link is very slim.

Also, when attached to the case there is no extra risk of it falling off.

AK DeepSea · 10 November 2018, 03:44 AM

Are the Oyster bracelets on Subs/GMTs/SDs hollow?

sillo · 10 November 2018, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AK DeepSea

Are the Oyster bracelets on Subs/GMTs/SDs hollow?

The 5 digit ones had hollow center links. The 6 digit bracelets are solid center links.

Chadridv · 10 November 2018, 04:17 AM

I'm no expert but have been observing and obsessing over watches, in particular Rolex, for about 15 years now. I've never seen that type of damage to either bracelets pre or post ceramic. If i had to guess it's kind of a freak incident for that to happen, and/or mistreatment of the watch. I don't think the type or design of bracelet has much to do with it, and I certainly don't think it has anything to do with the ceramic bezels except to pin point timeframes.

The WG DD2 bracelet is completely irrelevant in regards to the thread title as well, so I'm not sure why it's even introduced into the conversation.

SearChart · 10 November 2018, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I'm no expert but have been observing and obsessing over watches, in particular Rolex, for about 15 years now. I've never seen that type of damage to either bracelets pre or post ceramic. If i had to guess it's kind of a freak incident for that to happen, and/or mistreatment of the watch. I don't think the type or design of bracelet has much to do with it, and I certainly don't think it has anything to do with the ceramic bezels.

The WG DD2 bracelet is completely irrelevant in regards to the thread title as well, so I'm not sure why it's even introduced into the conversation.

No freak accident or misuse in any way. This is a random fault that happens to a small percentage of solid end links.

RJRJRJ · 10 November 2018, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

No freak accident or misuse in any way. This is a random fault that happens to a small percentage of solid end links.

With the bracelet still on the watch, would that side link appear loose?

10 November 2018, 12:48 AM	#1
Pureform Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 278	Rolex Ceramic more durable VS Pre Ceramic Hmmm not sure if thats true... BLRO end link snaps ...posted by a member here... Had 2 more people tell me it happened to them with white gold and steel? I was told that the new steel also is much softer then the old pre ceramic models... The ceramic steel dents,scratches and looks like they snap easier then the older 316L steel... Never seen this happen to Pre ceramics... Also WG DAYDATE 2

10 November 2018, 12:55 AM	#3
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,377	Wouldn't the oyster bracelet on the BLRO be white gold? __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

10 November 2018, 12:58 AM	#5
DP63 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: DP Location: Scotland Watch: 18078 Posts: 795	Um ... forgive my ignorance ... but how did that manage to snap? __________________ 114060 - 116200 - 114300 - 18078

10 November 2018, 12:59 AM	#6
jsausley "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: North Carolina Watch: 214270/116710BLNR Posts: 813	Something doesn't add up. The steel is no different ceramic to non-ceramic. The 316L/904L transition was earlier. Furthermore if you have a BLRO with an oyster bracelet, that should be white gold. __________________ 214270 \| 116710BLNR

10 November 2018, 01:44 AM	#12
m j b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: RTP, NC, USA Watch: ♕& Ω Posts: 5,095	All of that stuff holding together bracelets are a pressure fit. Except for the links obviously held together by screws. The OP is misleading in his description and assumptions. __________________ Enjoy life - it has an expiration date. Disclaimer: Please note that the avatar is not an accurate representation of how I look. The camera adds 10 pounds...

10 November 2018, 12:52 AM	#2
Lo100169 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Brussels Posts: 63	pre-ceramic is using 904L too, there was no change between the 5 and 6 digits when it comes to the steel that is being used.

10 November 2018, 01:37 AM	#11
fosbibr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 127	well..... I'm a little confused as the 1st pics are from my posting. OP does say they are from other members, but doesn't have any context / knowledge. Anyway - 1st pics are from a WG BLRO. Not sure how it actually came undone, as I realized it was broken when I took the bracelet off to put on a strap. The end link is 3 separate pieces - polished center section and 2 brushed sides with a rod (but not the springbar) holding it together. Apparently the rod cracked. Sent it to Dallas RSC and its being repaired.

10 November 2018, 02:16 AM	#13
lenfried29 Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Far Far Away Watch: tick-tock Posts: 1,206	WG is a lot softer then 316L or 904L.

10 November 2018, 02:25 AM	#15
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	bracelets arent ceramic op. and pre ceramic still has solid end links. geeze. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

10 November 2018, 02:39 AM	#17
arcentaur "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Nunya Posts: 328	ceramic steel??

10 November 2018, 03:12 AM	#18
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	I was under the impression that 16610 / 16710 / 14060 used 904 on the bracelets.

10 November 2018, 03:13 AM	#19
envuks 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,687	Seems like these statements and conclusions by the OP aren’t totally factual... __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

10 November 2018, 03:27 AM	#23
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	Wow thats not good :(

10 November 2018, 03:44 AM	#26
AK DeepSea Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: MAGA2020 Posts: 242	Are the Oyster bracelets on Subs/GMTs/SDs hollow?

10 November 2018, 04:17 AM	#28
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,343	I'm no expert but have been observing and obsessing over watches, in particular Rolex, for about 15 years now. I've never seen that type of damage to either bracelets pre or post ceramic. If i had to guess it's kind of a freak incident for that to happen, and/or mistreatment of the watch. I don't think the type or design of bracelet has much to do with it, and I certainly don't think it has anything to do with the ceramic bezels except to pin point timeframes. The WG DD2 bracelet is completely irrelevant in regards to the thread title as well, so I'm not sure why it's even introduced into the conversation. __________________ - i͞n͟s͞t͟a͞g͞r͟a͞m͞ @ⓒⓄⓁⒹⓒⒶⓈⒺⓦⒶⒶⓉⒸⒽⒺⓈ

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