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Old 8 September 2017, 01:11 AM   #1
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$1,000 difference between AD and Trusted Seller

If you had your eye on a watch and a Trusted Seller on here had it fore $1,000 less than an AD; would you (1) Buy from the TS or (2) Buy from the AD?
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:13 AM   #2
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If both are in the same condition. BNIB. then trusted seller.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:14 AM   #3
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Depends on the price of the watch.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:16 AM   #4
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The only reason I'd buy from the AD with that price delta is if I knew I needed to build a relationship with that particular AD for a planned future purchase. E.g., it's worth it to "lose" $1k now because you'll get on the list for a Daytona (and thus not be subject to grey market premium).

Otherwise, $1k is too much for me.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:16 AM   #5
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Ts I'd rather have the 1000 in my pocket.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:16 AM   #6
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If both are in the same condition. BNIB. then trusted seller.
only if you are not into relationships with your AD. If you want hard to get pieces in the future, at retail, buying from the same AD does matter.

If its a one and done purchase then by all means take the lowest price.
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Same watch....that would depend on condition and age....if identical in every way, then $1000 is a lot of savings IMO.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:18 AM   #8
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Depends on the price of the watch.
The $1,000 is basically 8.2% in regards to the overall cost of the watch (retail)
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:18 AM   #9
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the only reason i'd buy from the ad with that price delta is if i knew i needed to build a relationship with that particular ad for a planned future purchase. E.g., it's worth it to "lose" $1k now because you'll get on the list for a daytona (and thus not be subject to grey market premium).

Otherwise, $1k is too much for me.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:20 AM   #10
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:24 AM   #11
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The $1,000 is basically 8.2% in regards to the overall cost of the watch (retail)
that 8.2% savings will be gone and you will be in the hole if you ever want a 5711, a Daytona C, 5712 etc. It really depends on future watch collection plans.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:25 AM   #12
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Depends on price, for a SS or TT Sub/GMT I'd go TS. For a PM model I find 1K not enough and would go the AD route
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:29 AM   #13
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If you had your eye on a watch and a Trusted Seller on here had it fore $1,000 less than an AD; would you (1) Buy from the TS or (2) Buy from the AD?
Does that price include tax?
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:38 AM   #14
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Depends on the watch.

On a sub or anything steel under 10k? 1k is about all your get.

1k for a two tone or precious metal, go AD. Then again, a trusted seller would get you a lot more off than 1k on two tone or precious metal.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:41 AM   #15
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I would only buy from an AD and I always use a credit card.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:44 AM   #16
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I would only buy from an AD and I always use a credit card.
you and me both.
Most people don't "get" the points/miles advantage of CC and seem to prefer to walk around with stacks of cash. My miles pay out more than any cash discount ever could, by a large margin. Plus its safer.
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:45 AM   #17
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Does that price include tax?
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:45 AM   #18
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If the watches are BNIB from either source, I wouldn't pay any premium to buy from an AD. If the product is equivalent and the TS is truly trusted (thereby eliminating "peace of mind" rationalizations), why would anyone pay even $1 more to an AD?!?
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:46 AM   #19
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If the watches are BNIB from either source, I wouldn't pay any premium to buy from an AD. If the product is equivalent and the TS is truly trusted (thereby eliminating "peace of mind" rationalizations), why would anyone pay even $1 more to an AD?!?
post #6 is why
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The only reason I'd buy from the AD with that price delta is if I knew I needed to build a relationship with that particular AD for a planned future purchase. E.g., it's worth it to "lose" $1k now because you'll get on the list for a Daytona (and thus not be subject to grey market premium).

Otherwise, $1k is too much for me.
Why not just walk in to the AD and hand him $1000 in cash and then say "be my friend and let me buy stuff from you please".

Then go to the trusted seller here and buy your watch and start building a relationship

* This way you can build 2 relationships and you still get to burn you $1000 too !
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Old 8 September 2017, 01:58 AM   #21
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Old 8 September 2017, 02:01 AM   #22
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only if you are not into relationships with your AD. If you want hard to get pieces in the future, at retail, buying from the same AD does matter.

If its a one and done purchase then by all means take the lowest price.
I actually bought two new Rolex from two dealers a month ago.

One dealer, I feel that there is no "relationship" built. I bought the D-Blue from him at full retail. 3 weeks later, I asked about a BLNR he has in stock. Asked if there something he can do for me. He flat out said "No, $8950".

2nd dealer, perhaps there is "relationship". I flew to the city where the dealer is located (otherwise a 9 hour drive). Bought the watch at a good price. I intend to build a good relationship with this guy. I am not ready to make another watch purchase yet. So we shall see when the time comes.

I wonder do dealers treat you any different because you bought one SS Rolex from them. They will put you on the list for a Sky D or Daytona, but it is really no different from any dealer that I have not done business put me on their list. I won't be moving to the front of the list. I am sure there are many customers who have bought 3, 4, or more PM watches that will get the preferential treatment.
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Old 8 September 2017, 02:02 AM   #23
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I prefer buy new and pay by credit card to get miles. Then I can spend miles to fly my Wife for SPA weekend in Bali.
Man ...believe me it is Win Win!

But if I had no Wife then Trusted Seller wins
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AD, there is nothing more important than having a good relationship with an AD, definitely if you want a real rare or special watch one day
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Why not just walk in to the AD and hand him $1000 in cash and then say "be my friend and let me buy stuff from you please".

Then go to the trusted seller here and buy your watch and start building a relationship

* This way you can build 2 relationships and you still get to burn you $1000 too !


This could work!! $1000 cash tip should bump you up a list.
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you and me both.
Most people don't "get" the points/miles advantage of CC and seem to prefer to walk around with stacks of cash. My miles pay out more than any cash discount ever could, by a large margin. Plus its safer.
Which CC do you use?
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I actually bought two new Rolex from two dealers a month ago.

One dealer, I feel that there is no "relationship" built. I bought the D-Blue from him at full retail. 3 weeks later, I asked about a BLNR he has in stock. Asked if there something he can do for me. He flat out said "No, $8950".

2nd dealer, perhaps there is "relationship". I flew to the city where the dealer is located (otherwise a 9 hour drive). Bought the watch at a good price. I intend to build a good relationship with this guy. I am not ready to make another watch purchase yet. So we shall see when the time comes.

I wonder do dealers treat you any different because you bought one SS Rolex from them. They will put you on the list for a Sky D or Daytona, but it is really no different from any dealer that I have not done business put me on their list. I won't be moving to the front of the list. I am sure there are many customers who have bought 3, 4, or more PM watches that will get the preferential treatment.

depends on the AD. My AD got me a Patek 5712 in 9 days from when i asked for it. IMO relationships are about playing the long game, not short term discount strategies. Most if not all of us here will buy many more watches in the future at some point and to me not playing the waitlist game or paying over retail from a grey dealer is worth it. Im confident i could get a blue sky dweller for example reasonably shortly after requesting, it if and when i am ready to buy.
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Old 8 September 2017, 02:11 AM   #28
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Which CC do you use?
depends. Usually my Chase BA card if I'm working to the spending threshold to get a travel together ticket. That allows you to get two award tickets for the same amount of miles one ticket usually requires. That effectively doubles your miles.

Comes in handy when you want to fly LHR-LAX in first class
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Old 8 September 2017, 02:16 AM   #30
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depends on the AD. My AD got me a Patek 5712 in 9 days from when i asked for it. IMO relationships are about playing the long game, not short term discount strategies. Most if not all of us here will buy many more watches in the future and to me not playing the waitlist game or paying over retail from a grey dealer is worth it. Im confident i could get a blue sky dweller for example shortly after requesting, it if and when i am ready to buy.
Exactly, it is a long term game. I think to build a good relationship with a dealer, you need to at least buy a few watches or jewelry from him/her. I think it all depends on how much you spend with the guy. Watch collection is a hobby for rich people....

Maybe I will be friends with you and when I am ready to buy a Sky-D, I will ask you nicely to help me out. :P
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