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Old 23 June 2020, 07:14 AM   #1
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Rolex 6263 Bezel

hello, I've recently purchased a 6263 Rolex bezel and was told it was a mk2. But after studying photos from RPR's very informative website (http://rolexpassionreport.com/19312/...graph-daytona/), it appears to look closer to a mk3. Any thoughts?


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Old 23 June 2020, 07:29 AM   #2
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It’s a mk3
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Old 23 June 2020, 07:40 AM   #3
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It’s a mk3
x2. Here's my NOS MK3 for comparison. (Don't be thrown off by the lighting difference between the two photos.)
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Old 23 June 2020, 07:44 AM   #4
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x2. Here's my NOS MK3 for comparison. (Don't be thrown off by the lighting difference between the two photos.)
Awesome, thanks so much for confirming and posting the picture!
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Old 23 June 2020, 02:00 PM   #5
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Not genuine.
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Old 23 June 2020, 02:49 PM   #6
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Not genuine.
Is it the spacing of the text? Any particular numbers that don’t look correct?
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Old 23 June 2020, 09:49 PM   #7
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Is it the spacing of the text? Any particular numbers that don’t look correct?
Not sure what Michael look at but I usually compare how the ”Units per hour” text line up.
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Old 23 June 2020, 11:52 PM   #8
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Not genuine.
Can you elaborate? Looks so close to my bezel. (The font looks a little thicker on the OP's example, I realize.)
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Old 24 June 2020, 01:15 AM   #9
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FYI, this bezel came from a well-known dealer in Japan (not that it makes it automatically genuine, but this was not a questionable purchase at the onset). I'd like to make this an educational experience and be able to go back to him with what exactly is wrong with the bezel

The text looks pretty spot on, the spacing the 200 was what concerned me (being closer to the outer edge of the ring vs the inner ring)
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Old 24 June 2020, 02:08 AM   #10
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Look at the 2 in 200 and the 8 in 80.
OP's bezel looks like MK1 and the other bezel looks more like MK3 bezel
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Old 24 June 2020, 02:21 AM   #11
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Old 24 June 2020, 03:01 AM   #12
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Can you elaborate? Looks so close to my bezel. (The font looks a little thicker on the OP's example, I realize.)
Compare the placing of the I in units to the H in hour.
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Old 24 June 2020, 03:25 AM   #13
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Compare the placing of the I in units to the H in hour.
Yeah, maybe a tick different, but close. I'd love to hear from Michael Morgan on the differences, but we don't want to detail too much for the bad guys, of course!

Here's a breakdown of the differences between the styles (of confirmed legit examples), courtesy of the Mazzariol site.
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Old 24 June 2020, 03:40 AM   #14
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Look at the 2 in 200 and the 8 in 80.
OP's bezel looks like MK1 and the other bezel looks more like MK3 bezel
I am leaning toward a Mark I also. I would say that it definitely not a Mark III based on the link provided in the first post.
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Old 24 June 2020, 03:49 AM   #15
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I am leaning toward a Mark I also. I would say that it definitely not a Mark III based on the link provided in the first post.
But is this a genuine bezel? I've begun the return process but would like to keep it if this is indeed a genuine Rolex bezel
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It is not a mk1.
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Old 24 June 2020, 04:15 AM   #17
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It is not a mk1.
What's not a Mark I about it?
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Old 24 June 2020, 04:24 AM   #18
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What's not a Mark I about it?
The swan neck 2 in 200. The placing of the Units per hour text. I’m sure there’s more but those are the easy tells.
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Then that would make it a MK2
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Old 24 June 2020, 06:12 AM   #20
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Then that would make it a MK2
The U and P line up nicely?
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Old 24 June 2020, 08:37 AM   #21
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is it me or the font looks thicker? also the 3 in 130 seems odd. not an expert, just my observation
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Old 24 June 2020, 09:04 AM   #22
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is it me or the font looks thicker? also the 3 in 130 seems odd. not an expert, just my observation
Photos or cameras have a way of changing the thickness of fonts.
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The swan neck 2 in 200. The placing of the Units per hour text. I’m sure there’s more but those are the easy tells.
It does appear, under more scrutiny, to be a Mark II insert. I missed those tell tale signs before when looking at it. Thanks for the update.
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Old 24 June 2020, 05:57 PM   #24
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It does appear, under more scrutiny, to be a Mark II insert. I missed those tell tale signs before when looking at it. Thanks for the update.
It is not a mk2 either. I would listen to Michael M.
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Old 24 June 2020, 06:07 PM   #25
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Interesting.

You guys have got me questioning my Mk 3 now.
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Interesting.

You guys have got me questioning my Mk 3 now.
Why? Do you see any difference from an accepted mk3? Looks fine to me.
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Why? Do you see any difference from an accepted mk3? Looks fine to me.
Yeah, it looks fine to me too - but I have to confess, I didn't spot the bezel in the OP's original post as a fake. (And neither had a few others here, it seems.)

It's had me questioning my own eyes.

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Old 25 June 2020, 01:19 AM   #28
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Fonts are poorly spaced and don't resemble any genuine layout. The printing is also very low quality.
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Old 25 June 2020, 01:52 AM   #29
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This thread is a good example of the difficulties of ID'ing these 6263 bezels. I obsessed for hours and hours before buying my 6263 years ago, and then again when buying an NOS MK3 bezel ... and it's still tough to know for sure! Much more difficult than ID'ing Sub/GMT bezel inserts.

And in the OP's case, it's complicated even more by the fact that this appears to be an after-market bezel.
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Old 25 June 2020, 01:07 PM   #30
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Thanks to each one of you for your input and knowledge. You can never be too careful!
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