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Old 6 January 2024, 05:43 AM   #211
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Old 6 January 2024, 06:01 AM   #212
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Old 6 January 2024, 07:46 AM   #213
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The spanish police Just contacted Interpol. I have all data. The cell number of the lady owning the account, where is she working, her cell
Number, and further details, these guys are done
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Old 6 January 2024, 07:55 AM   #214
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The spanish police Just contacted Interpol. I have all data. The cell number of the lady owning the account, where is she working, her cell
Number, and further details, these guys are done
government agencies actually doing something so quickly... hard to believe, but impressive, if true...
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Old 6 January 2024, 08:08 AM   #215
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The spanish police Just contacted Interpol. I have all data. The cell number of the lady owning the account, where is she working, her cell
Number, and further details, these guys are done
This is brilliant! Hopefully you get your money back
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Old 6 January 2024, 08:48 AM   #216
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The lady (Dawn Hirschy) promised to wire the money back today. She did not, and now she does not pick up the phone. I have got always problems to understand her accent anyway.

I have her cell phone as she called me back yesterday when I contacted her boss. Can anybody help me to contact her and let her see that she has nothing to do, and she can even go to jail?. And the only way is to return the funds to avoid that?

Her cell phone :

Dawn HIRSCHY
00 1 (248) 893-7902

[email protected]


Anyway the US authorities will contact her shortly and ask her about the seller who is using her account to scam us. She told me she would talk to her bank for the refund but now I see she was just winning time

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Old 6 January 2024, 10:33 AM   #217
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You seem to be making progress with the police, OP. Keep it up. I really hope they catch this scumbag.

As a fellow Spaniard, I feel really sorry for you, my friend. I wired 13k myself to a national seller once, a private individual. I took a series of measures first (copy of his national ID card, buy/sell contract, video call, picture of his home address and work address, face to face meeting when picking up the watch) but it was a daunting experience nonetheless.

Engaging with international private sellers is of course much riskier. I bought watches from abroad and had no issues, luckily. These days though, I would simply not do it without some kind of protection like an escrow account.

Stay strong and keep pushing. Mucha suerte.
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Old 6 January 2024, 11:37 AM   #218
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It will be a miracle if anything happens to these people. Criminals released on no/minimal bail left and right, committing same crimes over and over while awaiting trial to not be sent to jails. All in the name of equity or whatever the buzz word of the month is.
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Old 7 January 2024, 02:43 AM   #219
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The lady (Dawn Hirschy) promised to wire the money back today. She did not, and now she does not pick up the phone. I have got always problems to understand her accent anyway.

I have her cell phone as she called me back yesterday when I contacted her boss. Can anybody help me to contact her and let her see that she has nothing to do, and she can even go to jail?. And the only way is to return the funds to avoid that?

Her cell phone :

Dawn HIRSCHY
00 1 (248) 893-7902

[email protected]


Anyway the US authorities will contact her shortly and ask her about the seller who is using her account to scam us. She told me she would talk to her bank for the refund but now I see she was just winning time

Thanks guys

Just to be helpful, the expression is “buying time”. I’m amazed you’ve found out as much info, as you have, and in such a short time. I think it’s a long shot, but I really do hope you get this sorted out. It occurred to me you could hire a private Detective, local to where these thieves are, to gather more info, if authorities aren’t willing to investigate. Of course that may be just wasting more money. I just hate that there are such bad folks out there. Good luck.

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Old 7 January 2024, 03:39 PM   #220
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It’s incredible how many people doubted or shit on OP. That’s rough man, I get it; you get excited about getting a piece and you make some mistakes. I hope you get your money back.
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Old 8 January 2024, 04:26 AM   #221
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Contact Dawn through her employer. A quick google search shows she works at Lancia Homes in Fort Wayne. If this doesn't work, then tell the employer about your experience. They should know what their employees are doing.

ETA: I am sure Jamie Lancia and Jim Lancia would be interested to know their accounts payable employee is scamming people.
Hello colleagues, last update.

I called to Lancia Homes last Thursday. That lady, Dawn Hirsch confirmed me by phone that my 14K are in her bank. She told me to return the funds back on Friday and send me any evidence by email. She sent nothing and did not pick up the phone. On Friday I filed a report in Spain.

On Saturday I managed to contact vía LinkedIn the owner of Lancia Homes and sent him all details, including a link to this thread.

He told me he will talk tomorrow with that lady, Dawn Hirschy. Hope he helps me to get my money back.

Thanks to all the colleagues showing their support in this thread and via direct Message.
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Old 8 January 2024, 04:39 AM   #222
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Any luck finding Carol or Lindell Vickers guys ? Thanks

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Old 8 January 2024, 04:53 AM   #223
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If the lady of Lancia Homes is a mule, and the scammer is the same individual using different mules, I wish her boss Jamie Lancia can get in touch with the police of Louisville to get his name.

Dawn Hirschy mentioned a guy named Frank bud did not want to give me any detail. They are clearly a team.

My brother works in the police. He will push tomorrow his colleagues to speed up the contact with Interpol. Everything above 4K should go faster, especially now that we have a lot of information

Thanks guys
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Old 8 January 2024, 05:19 AM   #224
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I haven't read the whole thread but I did do a search for Lindell and Carol Vickers on the property appraisal district websites for the 4 largest counties in the DFW area (Dallas, Denton, Tarrant, Collin) and found nothing. So that means either their names are fake or they don't own any real property like a home or land in the area.
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Old 8 January 2024, 07:35 AM   #225
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This whole thing is a nightmare. This is why I buy from trusted sellers. I'm happy to pay a premium to insure against this kind of thing.
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Old 8 January 2024, 07:36 AM   #226
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I haven't read the whole thread but I did do a search for Lindell and Carol Vickers on the property appraisal district websites for the 4 largest counties in the DFW area (Dallas, Denton, Tarrant, Collin) and found nothing. So that means either their names are fake or they don't own any real property like a home or land in the area.

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Old 8 January 2024, 08:55 AM   #227
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But is there no way to get any Phone nr of this lady, knowing name and address?
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Old 8 January 2024, 09:42 AM   #228
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Hello @outkast Just found the phone nr of Carol Vickers neighbour
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Old 9 January 2024, 05:25 AM   #229
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Is there anyone from Indiana that can file a report there ?
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Old 9 January 2024, 06:16 AM   #230
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These scammers are desperate for cash, that money will likely be spent, most of it anyway, it’s gone in my opinion.
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Old 9 January 2024, 08:56 AM   #231
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The owner of Lancia Homes called me back today. The lady has been fired after a meetinh with him. All details are clear and Mr Lancia informed the FBI. They will surely solve not only my case but also the other ones. The final scammer, named Frank, who has been using different mules will fall soon.

Bye Frank, I know you are reading this thread.
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Old 9 January 2024, 10:06 AM   #232
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The owner of Lancia Homes called me back today. The lady has been fired after a meetinh with him. All details are clear and Mr Lancia informed the FBI. They will surely solve not only my case but also the other ones. The final scammer, named Frank, who has been using different mules will fall soon.

Bye Frank, I know you are reading this thread.

They are good citizens and can obviously smell a rat.
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Old 9 January 2024, 01:45 PM   #233
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This thread made me mad. Partly because of what happened to OP but mostly because of the know it alls who alternated between doubting him and putting him down for making a mistake.

In threads like these if all you have to say is "I never would have done that" or "You must be making this up" you shouldn't even clutter the thread by posting at all. And then you have the worthless advice sprinkled in, along the lines of, "Buy only from the AP." One Einstein offered the gem of he'd never buy from the classifieds of any forum at all.

Offering advice such as, This is what you should look into before pushing the button, is one thing - just saying basically, "You done f'ed up" is quite another.

Eliminate the dross posts and this thread is reduced to just a page.

Good luck OP. The IC3 isn't a bad place to file a report but rare that you will get any action through them. Keep pushing your local police and the police local to where the wire landed. Consider hiring a private detective to pay any names you have unearthed a visit. If you can get neighbors to give you any information that's not such a crazy way to investigate either.

If the criminals feel like you're closing in on them they might return the money. By the time law enforcement does anything the money might already be spent and even if someone is arrested at that point, that won't benefit you.

Coordinating with other victims is also an excellent idea. The more victims reporting, the more chance law enforcement will take action.
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Old 14 January 2024, 01:42 AM   #234
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Hi,

wired 14K to the seller JeromeL for a Batman. Now I see he has been banned. I am in Spain and he is in the US. I have his email address, but what can I do??

so frustrated...

thanks
I was scammed by JeromeL too. Wired $13K for an H Moser and he has disappeared. Before sending money I got a picture of his driver's license. The name on it is Jerome J Howard from western New York State. I'm following up with local police.
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Old 14 January 2024, 05:19 AM   #235
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I still can’t understand the logic behind buying from unknown sellers to save a little. Just buy from trusted sellers here for a bit more and have a peace of mind.
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Old 27 January 2024, 10:20 PM   #236
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I am amazed at the number of people who think that someone can wire money and then call their bank a few days later and tell them to "undo it". It doesn't work that way. You wire money when there is zero question about the transaction. It is the electronic equivalent of handing someone a grocery bag full of unmarked cash.
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Old 29 January 2024, 02:42 PM   #237
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Any updates OP?
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Old 30 January 2024, 02:50 AM   #238
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what a strange thread....

More than a handful of members who posted in this thread are also banned....

Impossible to follow and outcomes (people getting fired, etc) are hard to believe.
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Old 1 February 2024, 09:05 AM   #239
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Hi, my bank is waiting PNC to return the money. The lady owning the account told to the police she already told PNC to return the funds. She also mentioned that the bank had to do previously a fraud audit.

I do not know how long that audit can take but after three weeks my money is not in my account
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Old 1 February 2024, 10:45 AM   #240
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I just hope we can have more people say they would not have done this, it adds so much for the readers..... Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction...

OP I hope you get your money back.
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