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bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 06:42 AM

Will any 20mm oyster bracelet fit the 1675 GMT?

More specifically, an oyster-lock ref#93253 for a submariner with SELs?

Thanks

gmt 16750 · 18 February 2007, 06:55 AM

No, sorry it wont.
If I'm not wrong a 93253 is a TT bracelet - why do you want to fit a SS/Gold bracelet to a SS watch? Just curious.
Regards - Neil.

bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 08:47 AM

Mine is a two tone - prior to the 16750, 16753, 16758 designation, they were all 1675. Mine is a two-tone that was recently restored by the RSC in Bev. Hills.

Are you sure it won't fit? Can you explain why not?

ANyone else please feel free to chime in.

Prince · 18 February 2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Mine is a two tone - prior to the 16750, 16753, 16758 designation, they were all 1675. Mine is a two-tone that was recently restored by the RSC in Bev. Hills.

Are you sure it won't fit? Can you explain why not?

ANyone else please feel free to chime in.

First of all, that is a fabulous vintage Root Beer GMT. I am in current negotiations for one myself, but a much newer vintage:

Notice that it comes with an Oyster bracelet. I'm believe this bracelet would fit an earlier model of the GMT, such as the one in your photo. Good luck!!

Tomko · 18 February 2007, 08:56 AM

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Is it just me, or is there a piece missing out of the mercedes part of the hour indicator?
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bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

First of all, that is a fabulous vintage Root Beer GMT. I am in current negotiations for one myself, but a much newer vintage:

Notice that it comes with an Oyster bracelet. I'm believe this bracelet would fit an earlier model of the GMT, such as the one in your photo. Good luck!!

Thanks - I really dig it - glad to see others that appreciate them also. I'm a little more partial to the all brown dial, but that watch defintiely looks nice! The hour hand might be missign something though!

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I guess the general question is:

Will the newer oysters bracelets with SELs (the one i am looking at is a 2005 - an oyster-lock ref#93253 for a submariner with SEL) fit the older model 1675 cases.

I would hate to buy it and then find out it won't fit the case.

My jubilee TT bracelet is from the 1980's when it was replaced and it fits fine, so if someone has tried the newer SEL bracelets on a 1980's GMT, that would be good information for me to know also.

Thanks again for the help.

Prince · 18 February 2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

...The hour hand might be missign something though!...

No, its just the light playing tricks in the photo. But this is NOT a photo of the one I am attempting to purchase anyway - it is merely one like it.

Best of luck regarding your question.

gmt 16750 · 18 February 2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Will the newer oysters bracelets with SELs (the one i am looking at is a 2005 - an oyster-lock ref#93253 for a submariner with SEL) fit the older model 1675 cases.

I would hate to buy it and then find out it won't fit the case.

It wont fit because the SEL's bracelet need to fit into a 'rebate' on the underside (rear) of the Oyster case (like the bracelet sits flush with the case), whereas your GMT's bracelet is held on with two 'lugs' which sit on top of the lugs.

So strange - I love the Gold/Bronze GMT,so much so I actually picked up a modern 16713 Gold/Bronze today! Pics to follow sometime........
Probably best to seek out an Oyster 78363 or similar.
Good luck - Neil

Gedanken · 18 February 2007, 09:54 AM

Yup, gmt 16750 is correct. The SELS have a groove on the inward-facing surfaces, and the rebate (it's like a rail) on the case between the lugs slides into that groove to keep it from moving about. If you put an SEL end-link on a non-SEL case, it's just going to pivot about on the springbar.

Prince · 18 February 2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gmt 16750

...I love the Gold/Bronze GMT,so much so I actually picked up a modern 16713 Gold/Bronze today! Pics to follow sometime...

OUTSTANDING, Neil!!!

I can't wait to see the photos. As mentioned elsewhere, I am currently working on obtaining one myself. Congratulations on acquiring a beautiful Rolex!!!

bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 10:09 AM

AH - i understand now - thanks a bunch for all the help everyone (especially Neil for taking the time to explain it). I'll have to keep my eyes open for the other type of band (78363). ANyone have one they want to part with? I'm not allowed to post a WTB yet! lol!

Awesome Neil - looking forward to the pics too. Does it have the brown bezel or the two-tone? I'm really excited that there a number of Brown/Bronze/Rootbeer dial lovers in this forum.

Yeehaaaaaaa

mike · 18 February 2007, 10:28 AM

BV that is a stunning example you have!

Big congrats!!
Personally I would stay with the bracelet you have. Your watch has a "nipple dial". I'm not sure I've seen a nipple dial watch with anything other than the jubilee.

Well done!

mike · 18 February 2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gmt 16750

So strange - I love the Gold/Bronze GMT,so much so I actually picked up a modern 16713 Gold/Bronze today! Pics to follow sometime........
Probably best to seek out an Oyster 78363 or similar.
Good luck - Neil

WooHoo Neil!! I've thought the same thing! Man I can't wait to see it! Another fabulous addition to a supurb collection!!!!

bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mike

BV that is a stunning example you have!

Big congrats!!
Personally I would stay with the bracelet you have. Your watch has a "nipple dial". I'm not sure I've seen a nipple dial watch with anything other than the jubilee.

Well done!

Thanks!!

Thats an interesting observation about the jubille and "nipple dial". I really like the jubilee and wasn't planning on abandoning it, but rather was contemplating picking up an oyster so I could switch around occasionally depending on the mood. However, maybe I'll save that money and put it towards Rolex #2!!!!!!!!!!!

However, just curious about a couple more things....

Does anyone know what year the 78363 switched from 14K to 18K and what are the 18K appropriate endlink numbers?

Also, what is the 18K/SS TT Sub bracelet ref number prior to the SEL bracelet and what are the appropriate endlink numbers?

Sorry for all the questions, but I have a thirst for knowledge right now!

Thanks again to all those who are hepling with the info.

gmt 16750 · 18 February 2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Awesome Neil - looking forward to the pics too. Does it have the brown bezel or the two-tone? I'm really excited that there a number of Brown/Bronze/Rootbeer dial lovers in this forum.

Thanks guys!, it is the very same in appearance to the fine one posted by Prince in the above pic but it has Luminova as opposed to the Trituim above and mine has a SEL Oysterlock bracelet.

Yeah, the bronze GMT seems to be gaining a few followers - us typical watch 'lovers' seem to go for a model once it's been discontinued - go figure

mike · 18 February 2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Thanks!!

Thats an interesting observation about the jubille and "nipple dial". I really like the jubilee and wasn't planning on abandoning it, but rather was contemplating picking up an oyster so I could switch around occasionally depending on the mood. However, maybe I'll save that money and put it towards Rolex #2!!!!!!!!!!!

However, just curious about a couple more things....

Does anyone know what year the 78363 switched from 14K to 18K and what are the 18K appropriate endlink numbers?

Also, what is the 18K/SS TT Sub bracelet ref number prior to the SEL bracelet and what are the appropriate endlink numbers?

Sorry for all the questions, but I have a thirst for knowledge right now!

Thanks again to all those who are hepling with the info.

No expert on Gold, but I thought I read the switch occured when the 16753 came out with the 3xxx movement circa 1977. End links might be 450 or 458.

Fiwi · 18 February 2007, 11:17 PM

My DH has an oyster bracelet. I think it's the oyster-lock. He replaced the jubilee that came with his GMT because it wasn't really his style and the clasp kept opening up.

bwalkerVintage · 18 February 2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiwi

My DH has an oyster bracelet. I think it's the oyster-lock. He replaced the jubilee that came with his GMT because it wasn't really his style and the clasp kept opening up.

Ah, original dial. Looks like it is still in pretty good shape! Sorry for being a noob, but what does DH stand for?

Oh Thanks for the info Mike!

Fiwi · 19 February 2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Ah, original dial. Looks like it is still in pretty good shape! Sorry for being a noob, but what does DH stand for?

DH=dear husband

It just got back from a refurb.

bwalkerVintage · 19 February 2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiwi

DH=dear husband

It just got back from a refurb.

lol! Thanks!

How much of refurb did it have?

nko51 · 19 February 2007, 01:41 AM

I love the root beer configuration

bwalkerVintage · 19 February 2007, 03:41 AM

Well - there seem to be a number of people who appreciate the Rootbeer GMT, and since everyone else has theie "club" signatures, I decided to make up one for the Rootbeer GMT - of course, feel free to use it!!!!! I didn't create it for myself but the rest!

I used my picture and the one Prince posted (hope thats ok).

Prince · 19 February 2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

...I used my picture and the one Prince posted (hope thats ok).

Absolutely OK with me, BW. When (and if) I get mine, I will proudly add it to my current lineup!!! Cheers...

Fiwi · 19 February 2007, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

lol! Thanks!

How much of refurb did it have?

He had the watch polished and a new acrylic crystal put in. I want to get him a new bezel insert too.

Fiwi · 19 February 2007, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Well - there seem to be a number of people who appreciate the Rootbeer GMT, and since everyone else has theie "club" signatures, I decided to make up one for the Rootbeer GMT - of course, feel free to use it!!!!! I didn't create it for myself but the rest!

I used my picture and the one Prince posted (hope thats ok).

I don't know if it's proper for me to be a member of the RootBeer club since it's my DHs watch and not mine. LOL Nice job combining the pics!

I keep wondering, is there a YM club?

Prince · 19 February 2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiwi

I don't know if it's proper for me to be a member of the RootBeer club since it's my DHs watch and not mine. LOL Nice job combining the pics!
I keep wondering, is there a YM club?

Your DH would be pleased!

And hey Tony - make a YM club logo up for Melissa!!!

Fiwi · 19 February 2007, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Your DH would be pleased!

And hey Tony - make a YM club logo up for Melissa!!!

Okay then! Hey Tony, would you mind?

18 February 2007, 06:42 AM	#1
bwalkerVintage Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brendan Location: Cougar Country Posts: 825	1675 GMT question - please help Will any 20mm oyster bracelet fit the 1675 GMT? More specifically, an oyster-lock ref#93253 for a submariner with SELs? Thanks

18 February 2007, 08:47 AM	#3
bwalkerVintage Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brendan Location: Cougar Country Posts: 825	Mine is a two tone - prior to the 16750, 16753, 16758 designation, they were all 1675. Mine is a two-tone that was recently restored by the RSC in Bev. Hills. Are you sure it won't fit? Can you explain why not? ANyone else please feel free to chime in. Last edited by bwalkerVintage; 19 February 2007 at 01:57 AM..

18 February 2007, 11:17 PM	#17
Fiwi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Melissa Location: Bahamas Watch: Ladies SS/Plat YM Posts: 277	My DH has an oyster bracelet. I think it's the oyster-lock. He replaced the jubilee that came with his GMT because it wasn't really his style and the clasp kept opening up. __________________

19 February 2007, 03:41 AM	#22
bwalkerVintage Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brendan Location: Cougar Country Posts: 825	Rootbeer Club Well - there seem to be a number of people who appreciate the Rootbeer GMT, and since everyone else has theie "club" signatures, I decided to make up one for the Rootbeer GMT - of course, feel free to use it!!!!! I didn't create it for myself but the rest! I used my picture and the one Prince posted (hope thats ok).

18 February 2007, 06:55 AM	#2
gmt 16750 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Neil Location: Borders, Scotland Watch: what your doing. Posts: 970	No, sorry it wont. If I'm not wrong a 93253 is a TT bracelet - why do you want to fit a SS/Gold bracelet to a SS watch? Just curious. Regards - Neil.

18 February 2007, 09:54 AM	#9
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Yup, gmt 16750 is correct. The SELS have a groove on the inward-facing surfaces, and the rebate (it's like a rail) on the case between the lugs slides into that groove to keep it from moving about. If you put an SEL end-link on a non-SEL case, it's just going to pivot about on the springbar. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

18 February 2007, 10:09 AM	#11
bwalkerVintage Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brendan Location: Cougar Country Posts: 825	AH - i understand now - thanks a bunch for all the help everyone (especially Neil for taking the time to explain it). I'll have to keep my eyes open for the other type of band (78363). ANyone have one they want to part with? I'm not allowed to post a WTB yet! lol! Awesome Neil - looking forward to the pics too. Does it have the brown bezel or the two-tone? I'm really excited that there a number of Brown/Bronze/Rootbeer dial lovers in this forum. Yeehaaaaaaa

18 February 2007, 10:28 AM	#12
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	BV that is a stunning example you have! Big congrats!! Personally I would stay with the bracelet you have. Your watch has a "nipple dial". I'm not sure I've seen a nipple dial watch with anything other than the jubilee. Well done!

19 February 2007, 01:41 AM	#21
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	I love the root beer configuration

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