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scarlette · 23 December 2010, 04:52 AM

Hi All!

Long time lurker here, gleaning lots of valuable info from all you rolex gurus!! I have been stalking a few auctions on eBay and think that I will finally bid on a Rolex watch sometime soon. I've researched the selller and it appears that he is reputable (possibly 1 time he may have sold something that was fake but may not have known that it was). I am wondering if I win one of his auctions, could I take the watch to a Rolex dealer (I live close by to a mall with a Rolex store) to have them send it for "service" and if fake, the technicians would know and inform me or could I send it to Rolex USA myself? Thanks in advance for your advice!

Numismatist · 23 December 2010, 04:56 AM

Seems backwards to me. I'd never buy something, then try to find out if it was a fake.

Stick around TRF, you can post the eBay auction link in the watch out section, people will respond with their thoughts. You may find a better deal right here.

scarlette · 23 December 2010, 05:05 AM

Actually, I like to think of it as "confirming authenticity". I definitely will post the auction link before buying but pictures and seller's reputation can only take you so far. I like someone with experience taking a real life look at the watch and confirm that it's authentic. I find that the selection is far better on line and the prices are fairly reasonable but there is always risks involved in buying on line. I'm just trying to minimize that as much as I can.

rmfnla · 23 December 2010, 05:32 AM

Post some detailed pictures and specify what makes you think it could be a fake.

There's a huge amount of knowledge on this forum and you don't have to send your watch off to access it.

NMS75 · 23 December 2010, 05:34 AM

Mmmm... If it was me (and I can only talk from my perspective/opinions) I would go elsewhere to obtain a Rolex if you are in doubt. There are plenty of reputable authorised dealers around even for pre-owned watches. Its a lot of cash to spend only then to find the watch is a fake then you got the process of getting your cash back etc.

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Kanger · 23 December 2010, 06:55 AM

send it to me, I will authenticate it beyond a doubt for you haha.

scarlette · 23 December 2010, 07:14 AM

This the watch I am looking at...would appreciate any input, including price -reasonable or not. I am a total newbie...just liked the look of this watch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ladies-SS-WG-Rol...item3f05e87f3a

rmfnla · 24 December 2010, 03:06 AM

eBay can be a little iffy but the seller has a decent amount of sales, has sold other Rolex watches and has 100% feedback.

Plus, they do have the protection program so I would say you are OK as far as authenticity is concerned.

As to price you would have to shop around to see what comparable pieces are going for elsewhere.

Try the sellers here on TRF in the classifieds section.

sea-dweller · 24 December 2010, 03:12 AM

If you already have it, take it to the RSC for service. They will authenticate it.

Le Chef · 24 December 2010, 03:39 AM

If this is white gold why does the deployant say "steel"? I don't see hallmarks on the case to say it's white gold.

drtooth73 · 24 December 2010, 03:43 AM

Take it to either a Rolex dealer or any watchmaker who works on Rolex.
However with 600+ feedback, I'm pretty sure the watch should be a real thing.

Alcan · 24 December 2010, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Chef

If this is white gold why does the deployant say "steel"? I don't see hallmarks on the case to say it's white gold.

If you read the listing, it states; "SS/WG Rolex Datejust" and "White Gold Fluted Bezel". The case and bracelet are SS, the bezel is white gold.

To the OP, the watch looks authentic to me, matching papers come with it, and A Morris has been around for a long time. The only thing that would prevent me from buying it would be the price, one of TRF's regular sellers might be able to beat it.

Good luck either way.

Michael M. · 24 December 2010, 03:52 AM

The Ebay listing looks pretty legit, but the box they include is for a later model.

padi56 · 24 December 2010, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

If you read the listing, it states; "SS/WG Rolex Datejust" and "White Gold Fluted Bezel". The case and bracelet are SS, the bezel is white gold.

To the OP, the watch looks authentic to me, matching papers come with it, and A Morris has been around for a long time. The only thing that would prevent me from buying it would be the price, one of TRF's regular sellers might be able to beat it.

Good luck either way.

X2 And the only real way to authentic any Rolex if you have any doubt is get the back off.There is no mistaking a genuine Rolex movement and any good watchmaker could get the back off and do a pressure re-test.

ArcticMoose · 24 December 2010, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Chef

If this is white gold why does the deployant say "steel"? I don't see hallmarks on the case to say it's white gold.

The auction states "Band Material: Stainless Steel". WG probably refers to the hour marker surrounds and such.

culto · 24 December 2010, 09:07 AM

I would ask the seller to email you a picture of the papers. If the diamonds are after-market it reduces the value of the watch considerably. If the diamonds are Rolex diamonds it would say so on the papers.

scarlette · 6 January 2011, 06:41 AM

Thanks for all the responses. I have been looking through the classified section here but don't see anything similar. I'll keep looking.

psv · 6 January 2011, 07:44 AM

Just ping David, Tony or any and all of the regular seller to see if they can help you locate what you need. That way you know what you get is 100% legit.

As always, buy the seller before you buy the product.

kkwn98 · 6 January 2011, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

The auction states "Band Material: Stainless Steel". WG probably refers to the hour marker surrounds and such.

The "white gold" is a reference to the white gold, fluted bezel.

George Ab · 6 January 2011, 12:02 PM

I wrote this up a few days ago so I'm pasting below, the question was about going to an AD to authenticate.

However, before we go into authentication..... if there is any doubt, RUN....... RUN as fast as you can! Why take a chance with big $? When I hear, "(possibly 1 time he may have sold something that was fake but may not have known that it was)".... so I say RUN and don't look back!

No it is not bad form to ask for an authentication. However, I would not broach the topic in that manner. Simply hand it over and ask him to take a look at it to determine if it requires service. He can look for service marks to see the last time it was serviced, how the timing and amplitude (how freely the heart of the mechanism is working), and if it needs a service. You will not only know if it is a fake, but its general health. Usually, no charge for this service or minimal fee.

If it is a fake the moment you hand it to him he will say, "We don't service non-Rolex watches", or something to that effect.

In the resource section there are recommendations on independent watchmakers. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ht=independent

scarlette · 11 January 2011, 07:29 AM

Thanks, George, for the response - that was very helpful.

Johny · 11 January 2011, 07:37 AM

buy from the trusted sellers on here. imho.

Brent · 11 January 2011, 07:46 AM

Have the seller authenticate the watch. The seller should have every incentive in the world to do so........unless?

23 December 2010, 04:52 AM	#1
scarlette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	Where Can I send a Rolex for Authentication Hi All! Long time lurker here, gleaning lots of valuable info from all you rolex gurus!! I have been stalking a few auctions on eBay and think that I will finally bid on a Rolex watch sometime soon. I've researched the selller and it appears that he is reputable (possibly 1 time he may have sold something that was fake but may not have known that it was). I am wondering if I win one of his auctions, could I take the watch to a Rolex dealer (I live close by to a mall with a Rolex store) to have them send it for "service" and if fake, the technicians would know and inform me or could I send it to Rolex USA myself? Thanks in advance for your advice!

23 December 2010, 04:56 AM	#2
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Seems backwards to me. I'd never buy something, then try to find out if it was a fake. Stick around TRF, you can post the eBay auction link in the watch out section, people will respond with their thoughts. You may find a better deal right here. __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

23 December 2010, 05:32 AM	#4
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	Post some detailed pictures and specify what makes you think it could be a fake. There's a huge amount of knowledge on this forum and you don't have to send your watch off to access it. __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

24 December 2010, 03:06 AM	#8
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	eBay can be a little iffy but the seller has a decent amount of sales, has sold other Rolex watches and has 100% feedback. Plus, they do have the protection program so I would say you are OK as far as authenticity is concerned. As to price you would have to shop around to see what comparable pieces are going for elsewhere. Try the sellers here on TRF in the classifieds section. __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

24 December 2010, 03:12 AM	#9
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	If you already have it, take it to the RSC for service. They will authenticate it. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

23 December 2010, 05:05 AM	#3
scarlette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	Actually, I like to think of it as "confirming authenticity". I definitely will post the auction link before buying but pictures and seller's reputation can only take you so far. I like someone with experience taking a real life look at the watch and confirm that it's authentic. I find that the selection is far better on line and the prices are fairly reasonable but there is always risks involved in buying on line. I'm just trying to minimize that as much as I can.

23 December 2010, 05:34 AM	#5
NMS75 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: United Kingdom Watch: 16610 & 116710LN Posts: 559	Mmmm... If it was me (and I can only talk from my perspective/opinions) I would go elsewhere to obtain a Rolex if you are in doubt. There are plenty of reputable authorised dealers around even for pre-owned watches. Its a lot of cash to spend only then to find the watch is a fake then you got the process of getting your cash back etc. M

23 December 2010, 06:55 AM	#6
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	send it to me, I will authenticate it beyond a doubt for you haha.

23 December 2010, 07:14 AM	#7
scarlette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	This the watch I am looking at...would appreciate any input, including price -reasonable or not. I am a total newbie...just liked the look of this watch. http://cgi.ebay.com/Ladies-SS-WG-Rol...item3f05e87f3a

24 December 2010, 03:39 AM	#10
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	If this is white gold why does the deployant say "steel"? I don't see hallmarks on the case to say it's white gold.

24 December 2010, 03:43 AM	#11
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	Take it to either a Rolex dealer or any watchmaker who works on Rolex. However with 600+ feedback, I'm pretty sure the watch should be a real thing.

24 December 2010, 03:52 AM	#13
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	The Ebay listing looks pretty legit, but the box they include is for a later model.

24 December 2010, 09:07 AM	#16
culto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: new york Posts: 260	I would ask the seller to email you a picture of the papers. If the diamonds are after-market it reduces the value of the watch considerably. If the diamonds are Rolex diamonds it would say so on the papers.

6 January 2011, 06:41 AM	#17
scarlette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	Thanks for all the responses. I have been looking through the classified section here but don't see anything similar. I'll keep looking.

6 January 2011, 07:44 AM	#18
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,063	Just ping David, Tony or any and all of the regular seller to see if they can help you locate what you need. That way you know what you get is 100% legit. As always, buy the seller before you buy the product.

6 January 2011, 12:02 PM	#20
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	I wrote this up a few days ago so I'm pasting below, the question was about going to an AD to authenticate. However, before we go into authentication..... if there is any doubt, RUN....... RUN as fast as you can! Why take a chance with big $? When I hear, "(possibly 1 time he may have sold something that was fake but may not have known that it was)".... so I say RUN and don't look back! No it is not bad form to ask for an authentication. However, I would not broach the topic in that manner. Simply hand it over and ask him to take a look at it to determine if it requires service. He can look for service marks to see the last time it was serviced, how the timing and amplitude (how freely the heart of the mechanism is working), and if it needs a service. You will not only know if it is a fake, but its general health. Usually, no charge for this service or minimal fee. If it is a fake the moment you hand it to him he will say, "We don't service non-Rolex watches", or something to that effect. In the resource section there are recommendations on independent watchmakers. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ht=independent __________________

11 January 2011, 07:29 AM	#21
scarlette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	Thanks, George, for the response - that was very helpful.

11 January 2011, 07:37 AM	#22
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	buy from the trusted sellers on here. imho. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

11 January 2011, 07:46 AM	#23
Brent "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto Watch: ref. 6263 (1972) Posts: 63	Have the seller authenticate the watch. The seller should have every incentive in the world to do so........unless?

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