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Old 4 August 2021, 12:01 AM   #1
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The Sound of Silence.....

This is a rather fun thread about David Draiman's from Disturbed's version of Simon and Garfunkel's Sound of Silence. This was posted a while back but the critiques I added.

It was supposedly the first video on Utube to hit 100 million views when it was aired on Conan O'Brien.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7RVw3I8eg


This is the Official Version, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

This is a critique by an opera singer and voice coach in which she has a number of 'ear-gasms" while watching. Unlike the rest of us, (or most of us) who just listen to a song and let it wash over us, she is constantly analyzing his technique, how he is making the sounds and what part of his body is making the sounds. (head voice, chest voice etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFmNaXAg0sw

And finally this lady is also an opera singer who analysis and interestingly she watches the Conan version and says she thinks he had a cold that day, and indeed he was sick when he did the Conan version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVygYHJ0Vg

I always find it interesting when people of various disciplines, look at/ listen to things and their experience comes at things from an entirely different angle than a lay person like myself.

Enjoy. It's perhaps one of the best covers of a song that you will find.
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I think that it is how that song should have sounded in the first place. It's magnificent.

I have seen both videos many times and again, fabulous, the first one shades it for me, the lighting coming on at various stages and revealing the players of different instruments.

Rarely does a cover beat the original, on this occasion, in my opinion, it does.
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Can’t listen to the remake. Just awful.
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Old 4 August 2021, 12:47 AM   #5
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The Sound of Silence.....

It’s a much better version for me.

He was Down With the Sickness.


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Old 4 August 2021, 12:48 AM   #6
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From the comments section...

Simon and garfunkel's version was a warning... Disturbed's version was the anger that we didnt heed the warning.
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I think that it is how that song should have sounded in the first place. It's magnificent.

I have seen both videos many times and again, fabulous, the first one shades it for me, the lighting coming on at various stages and revealing the players of different instruments.

Rarely does a cover beat the original, on this occasion, in my opinion, it does.
100% agreed!

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Funny, I much I prefer the original version.

Talk about over singing a song To each their own I suppose.
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Old 4 August 2021, 12:56 AM   #9
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He actually was sitting because he had the Flu and was too weak to stand. Great rendition....
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OK guys. Get out of the gym. Forget about the Ferrari.

This is how you make love to a woman. The "ear-gasms" here are voyeuristic.


The expressions, the flushed cheeks, the wet and dry fry (whatever the hell that is??)

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJGr_bFv6X0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xsawflG-6I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvY9sOIyy2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvY9sOIyy2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYUTIgCJTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d938hWQ9xl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7rVhHaWR_U


DAMMIT David, my wife just ran off with my computer.
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Great music.
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Powerful - it is a new day for those who are also Disturbed fans.

We who remember the era (when Simon penned the lyrics) recall a particularly dark time. Cold War, Assassins and Nuclear Missles.

Not sure if today’s world makes 21 year olds feel desperate thoughts but Disturbed’s version is more angry…
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never heard of this cover, and wow that's pretty impressive.
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Much ado about nothing . . . give me the original any day.
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A 13 year old utuber that hadn't heard of Simon & Garfunkel, telling a 72 year old, who has loved and does love all kinds of music from Mozart, Vivaldi, Chopin, John Tavener, Glen Miller, Frank Sinatra, Benny Goodman, Satchmo, The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Otis Redding, Stevie Wonder, Led Zeppelin, Jimi, Squeeze, Beautiful South, Tears For Fears, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Geno Washington, Michael Nyman, Cream, Santana, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, it's a Beautiful Day, Joni, Crosby Stills Nash & Young, Pentangle, Madness, Stan Getz, Chicago, Hall and Oats, Billy Joel, Clapton, Queen, Rod and the Faces, Desmond Dekker, Abba, Amy Winehouse, Deep Purple, Madonna, ELO, Procol Harem, Police, The Jam, Aretha, Ella, Adele, etc etc etc.........
......to, "open my mind" to,.......different music?

Hmmmm.

That version of, 'Sounds of Silence', to me is vandalism , it has a place in the great Pantheon of music, but for me, it's, not, 'up their'.
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A 13 year old utuber that hadn't heard of Simon & Garfunkel, telling a 72 year old, who has loved and does love all kinds of music from Mozart, Vivaldi, Chopin, John Tavener, Glen Miller, Frank Sinatra, Benny Goodman, Satchmo, The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Otis Redding, Stevie Wonder, Led Zeppelin, Jimi, Squeeze, Beautiful South, Tears For Fears, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Geno Washington, Michael Nyman, Cream, Santana, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, it's a Beautiful Day, Joni, Crosby Stills Nash & Young, Pentangle, Madness, Stan Getz, Chicago, Hall and Oats, Billy Joel, Clapton, Queen, Rod and the Faces, Desmond Dekker, Abba, Amy Winehouse, Deep Purple, Madonna, ELO, Procol Harem, Police, The Jam, Aretha, Ella, Adele, etc etc etc.........
......to, "open my mind" to,.......different music?

Hmmmm.

That version of, 'Sounds of Silence', to me is vandalism , it has a place in the great Pantheon of music, but for me, it's, not, 'up their'.
Are you sure she was talking to you?

I'm just not sure a 13 year old (as you described her) is thinking when she posted, that her target audience is someone's great granddad.
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That monotone drone sucks all of the beauty and drama out of an iconic song, and returns nothing in exchange. Gone is the tension between the dystopian lyrics and gorgeous melody/harmonies. An impressive trick for a heavy metal artist. Yawn.
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Funny, I much I prefer the original version.

Talk about over singing a song To each their own I suppose.
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Much ado about nothing . . . give me the original any day.
Totally agree. Awful renditions of a classic song here.
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That monotone drone sucks all of the beauty and drama out of an iconic song, and returns nothing in exchange. Gone is the tension between the dystopian lyrics and gorgeous melody/harmonies. An impressive trick for a heavy metal artist. Yawn.
I don't actually agree but that's unimportant.

I think when people sing other people's songs that they have a right and really an obligation to THEIR audience to interpret the lyrics and arrangement. A person doing a cover really should not be karioki-ing the original in my opinion.

Not everyone is into musical theater but I saw Phantom of the Opera with Michael Crawford and with Robert Guillaume and the Crawford version was far sweeter and the Guillaume version had more anger.

When the Sound of Silence came out in "64 it was "coffee house music",(NO NOT STARBUCKS) much like Dylan music, Peter Paul and Mary etc. The end of the Beat Era and the beginning of the Hippie Era.

I love this haunting version and the original version as well. But what this version did is to introduce the song to new generations and their sensibilities. They aren't AND CAN'T experiencing the song the way you did, because the times are different.

And I love the way the women are swooning over it. Granted the tears they are experiencing is different from the tears you're experiencing but that's what music can do.

It can move people.
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I don't actually agree but that's unimportant.

I think when people sing other people's songs that they have a right and really an obligation to THEIR audience to interpret the lyrics and arrangement. A person doing a cover really should not be karioki-ing the original in my opinion.

Not everyone is into musical theater but I saw Phantom of the Opera with Michael Crawford and with Robert Guillaume and the Crawford version was far sweeter and the Guillaume version had more anger.

When the Sound of Silence came out in "64 it was "coffee house music",(NO NOT STARBUCKS) much like Dylan music, Peter Paul and Mary etc. The end of the Beat Era and the beginning of the Hippie Era.

I love this haunting version and the original version as well. But what this version did is to introduce the song to new generations and their sensibilities. They aren't AND CAN'T experiencing the song the way you did, because the times are different.

And I love the way the women are swooning over it. Granted the tears they are experiencing is different from the tears you're experiencing but that's what music can do.

It can move people.
I agree with just about everything you’ve stated here.

However, that it is popular, doesn’t make it good.
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I agree with just about everything you’ve stated here.

However, that it is popular, doesn’t make it good.
I think regarding some of the women's reactions that I posted, it would be fun to show wives/girlfriends both the original version, and the new version, without any commentary to them beforehand and see what they say.

Just by watching the facial expressions of these professional singers/teachers and just ordinary people on Utube seems like women are VERY moved by this newer version.
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Are you sure she was talking to you?

I'm just not sure a 13 year old (as you described her) is thinking when she posted, that her target audience is someone's great granddad.

I suppose you do have a point...but..
Target audience? Utube reaches everybody, that's the point isn't it?
You posted her opinion here, in a discussion forum.

That rendition of a favourite, tender, beautiful song, to my admittedly tired old ears, was, not good.
Frank Sinatra singing 'Yesterday' has a similar, grating effect on my musical sensitivity....and I like ol' Frank,...mostly.

You are correct in one respect though, I'm told I am a great Grandad.
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I like both versions.

My band does covers from Johnny Cash, Bob Marley, Frank Sinatra, to Alice in Chains. Each done in our style. Not only does the multi aged audience appreciate the eclectic mix, but many stay just to hear what the next song might be, and their ears are already open to new ideas when we play our originals. Win/ win.
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I've been a fan of Disturbed since the 90's and they took the song to another level imo. Apparently, Paul Simon reached out to them after this live rendition to complement them on it.
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I've been a fan of Disturbed since the 90's and they took the song to another level imo. Apparently, Paul Simon reached out to them after this live rendition to complement them on it.

I bet that was a real thrill for the band. Ultimate complement.


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I've been a fan of Disturbed since the 90's and they took the song to another level imo. Apparently, Paul Simon reached out to them after this live rendition to complement them on it.
Of course he did.
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This is a rather fun thread about David Draiman's from Disturbed's version of Simon and Garfunkel's Sound of Silence. This was posted a while back but the critiques I added.

It was supposedly the first video on Utube to hit 100 million views when it was aired on Conan O'Brien.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7RVw3I8eg


This is the Official Version, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

This is a critique by an opera singer and voice coach in which she has a number of 'ear-gasms" while watching. Unlike the rest of us, (or most of us) who just listen to a song and let it wash over us, she is constantly analyzing his technique, how he is making the sounds and what part of his body is making the sounds. (head voice, chest voice etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFmNaXAg0sw

And finally this lady is also an opera singer who analysis and interestingly she watches the Conan version and says she thinks he had a cold that day, and indeed he was sick when he did the Conan version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVygYHJ0Vg

I always find it interesting when people of various disciplines, look at/ listen to things and their experience comes at things from an entirely different angle than a lay person like myself.

Enjoy. It's perhaps one of the best covers of a song that you will find.
Exactly. I cannot only make my mind between this cover and Chris Cornell's Billie Jean. Depending on the day i prefer one or the other

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There area lot of videos on reactions to the new version on Utube which I posted but most were of voice teachers who were analyzing and not just experiencing.

This lady called it vocal porn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_ZhKIK9E4

The videos of ordinary people (young) with no context of the original is interesting. In almost all cases it is almost like a religious experience. They are literally speechless at the end. They are wrung out and blown away. And remember some of these young people had never ever heard the original.

Here's a few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrQn2JQNdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjx1nWS1G8M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=108ZhH6vZ14

We do have to remember that the lyrics are written 50 some years ago and it's a tribute to the genius of Paul Simon that they are still universal and relevant as are a lot of the great music that came out of the 60s/70s.
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These reaction tubers are not probative; just more herd mentality SM stuff, including the voice coaches (who are usually trying to sell their classes to the masses).
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I love this song. As in, if I die tomorrow, play it for me while I lay in the box. If I were to rate these the OG would get a 10 and the remake a solid 7. Sorry but remakes rarely if ever better than the original.


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