The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Other (non-Rolex) Watch Topics > Watches (Non-Rolex) Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 1 August 2021, 01:37 AM   #2611
Russell996
2024 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 4,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexDimi View Post
Shall I pull the triger for my first A.Lange Sohne Zeitwerk NOS 2018 model or wait for the new model next year with 72 hours power reserve?
Can I get some discount on a 3 year stock watch?

Really like the timepiece but seems lately price jump is quite big.
So is this piece the previous version of the movement that primes the minutes at 5 seconds to the change or the revised version- both have the same movement number so you will either need to see it working or check the movement architecture. Have ALS actually announced a new version is coming - I know it has been mentioned on forums frequently.
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 August 2021, 03:18 AM   #2612
AlexDimi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EU
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell996 View Post
So is this piece the previous version of the movement that primes the minutes at 5 seconds to the change or the revised version- both have the same movement number so you will either need to see it working or check the movement architecture. Have ALS actually announced a new version is coming - I know it has been mentioned on forums frequently.
Is the new updated movement. No preload function.
Officially there is no announcement for new Zeitwerk but rumors mention that new update double barrel that introduced to Zeitwerk Date will be introduced in the basic model also.
The basic Zeitwerk with 36 hours power reserve both in White and Rose Gold are out of production currently.

I believe Lange will not announce a new basic model until all the current models shipped to ADs and Boutiques will be sell out.

To be honest I do not care for the new model as will not be my daily watch therefore power reserve is not key decision factor.
My main concern is how much should I pay for a watch that for 3.5 years is on dealer drawer and tried from many potential buyers.
AlexDimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 August 2021, 04:09 AM   #2613
Russell996
2024 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 4,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexDimi View Post
Is the new updated movement. No preload function.
Officially there is no announcement for new Zeitwerk but rumors mention that new update double barrel that introduced to Zeitwerk Date will be introduced in the basic model also.
The basic Zeitwerk with 36 hours power reserve both in White and Rose Gold are out of production currently.

I believe Lange will not announce a new basic model until all the current models shipped to ADs and Boutiques will be sell out.

To be honest I do not care for the new model as will not be my daily watch therefore power reserve is not key decision factor.
My main concern is how much should I pay for a watch that for 3.5 years is on dealer drawer and tried from many potential buyers.
They have told you they have had it for 3.5 years?
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 August 2021, 04:23 AM   #2614
AlexDimi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EU
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell996 View Post
They have told you they have had it for 3.5 years?
Yes it is not secret. There is public database with movement serial numbers and date of production.
On this price level timepieces both seller and buyer respect each other.
AlexDimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 August 2021, 04:55 AM   #2615
mario1971
"TRF" Member
 
mario1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Real Name: Mariusz
Location: Poland
Watch: Rolex, ALS
Posts: 2,477
The last spam of today. After the first day after returning from the site, he did + 0.3 seconds / day. I am more than satisfied.
__________________
This is my opinion and I fully support it
mario1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 August 2021, 06:18 AM   #2616
uniqueMR
2024 Pledge Member
 
uniqueMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: USA
Watch: P A T E K
Posts: 4,694
I am in love with Lange.
I need to add more to my collections :)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3476.jpg (147.5 KB, 1179 views)
__________________
A. Lange & Sohne | Audemars Piguet | F.P.Journe | Omega | Patek Philippe | Rolex | Tudor | ...and Othersss
uniqueMR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 August 2021, 04:50 PM   #2617
GreatCircle
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: European Union
Posts: 567
The blue hands generate some kind of halo in the crystal with the sun in a specific angle, very cool!



Such a warm watch!
GreatCircle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 August 2021, 01:51 AM   #2618
mario1971
"TRF" Member
 
mario1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Real Name: Mariusz
Location: Poland
Watch: Rolex, ALS
Posts: 2,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatCircle View Post
The blue hands generate some kind of halo in the crystal with the sun in a specific angle, very cool!







Such a warm watch!

Hello little brother!
__________________
This is my opinion and I fully support it
mario1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 August 2021, 01:56 AM   #2619
diracpoint
2024 Pledge Member
 
diracpoint's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexDimi View Post
Is the new updated movement. No preload function.
Officially there is no announcement for new Zeitwerk but rumors mention that new update double barrel that introduced to Zeitwerk Date will be introduced in the basic model also.
The basic Zeitwerk with 36 hours power reserve both in White and Rose Gold are out of production currently.

I believe Lange will not announce a new basic model until all the current models shipped to ADs and Boutiques will be sell out.

To be honest I do not care for the new model as will not be my daily watch therefore power reserve is not key decision factor.
My main concern is how much should I pay for a watch that for 3.5 years is on dealer drawer and tried from many potential buyers.
Any word on how the size (dia/thickness) of the basic Zeitwerk might get updated? I was thinking of getting one now, and the possibility of extra PR on the new one is not an issue for me either. I was thinking about wearability of the new one on small wrists (6”) compared to the current one ...

Thanks 🙏
diracpoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 08:28 AM   #2620
uniqueMR
2024 Pledge Member
 
uniqueMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: USA
Watch: P A T E K
Posts: 4,694
Whose buying or bought: 425.050
1815 Rattrapante Honeygold

ALS always releasing limited editions.
Comments!!
__________________
A. Lange & Sohne | Audemars Piguet | F.P.Journe | Omega | Patek Philippe | Rolex | Tudor | ...and Othersss
uniqueMR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 11:11 AM   #2621
chiscott_29
2024 Pledge Member
 
chiscott_29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex, ALS, Omega
Posts: 1,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by diracpoint View Post
Any word on how the size (dia/thickness) of the basic Zeitwerk might get updated? I was thinking of getting one now, and the possibility of extra PR on the new one is not an issue for me either. I was thinking about wearability of the new one on small wrists (6”) compared to the current one ...

Thanks

If anybody knows, they are being VERY tight lipped.

Have you tried on the 140.029? That’s 42mm and is going to look large on a 6” wrist. I have a 6.5” wrist and it’s the absolute max of what I’d try and pull off on watch that is elegant as the Zeitwerk.

The Calendar is 44mm and there are rumors the “basic” will also come in at 44mm. I personally don’t buy it, but maybe that’s just hope on my end. I’ve tried on the Calendar and while that’s one of my absolute favorite watches, I would never buy it because it is just way too large on a wrist my size.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________
__________________
chiscott_29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 11:36 AM   #2622
diracpoint
2024 Pledge Member
 
diracpoint's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiscott_29 View Post
If anybody knows, they are being VERY tight lipped.

Have you tried on the 140.029? That’s 42mm and is going to look large on a 6” wrist. I have a 6.5” wrist and it’s the absolute max of what I’d try and pull off on watch that is elegant as the Zeitwerk.

The Calendar is 44mm and there are rumors the “basic” will also come in at 44mm. I personally don’t buy it, but maybe that’s just hope on my end. I’ve tried on the Calendar and while that’s one of my absolute favorite watches, I would never buy it because it is just way too large on a wrist my size.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Thanks for the reply! Actually my worry is that if they release the new no-date version with a **smaller** size (small dia and thinner) then I might regret buying the old one now. After all, they managed to make the date version thinner, in spite of 72 hr PR.

I never had a chance to try on the 140.029, but it has been on my list for a very long time. I just love pretty much everything about it (maybe except the size) -- matte black dial, juxtaposition of simplicity and complexity etc. Who knows how they are going to update it ... they will most likely make some minor aesthetic changes (like the old dato and new dato) and I may not end up liking the new one ...

Decisions, decisions ... ha ha

diracpoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 02:10 PM   #2623
WatchEater666
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 1,644
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexDimi View Post
Is the new updated movement. No preload function.
Officially there is no announcement for new Zeitwerk but rumors mention that new update double barrel that introduced to Zeitwerk Date will be introduced in the basic model also.
The basic Zeitwerk with 36 hours power reserve both in White and Rose Gold are out of production currently.

I believe Lange will not announce a new basic model until all the current models shipped to ADs and Boutiques will be sell out.

To be honest I do not care for the new model as will not be my daily watch therefore power reserve is not key decision factor.
My main concern is how much should I pay for a watch that for 3.5 years is on dealer drawer and tried from many potential buyers.
Keep in mind the Zeitwerk is expensive to service, IIRC about the same as a Datograph. Also I think a model that old has the old movement that preloads. I would personally spend the money for a Zeitwerk still under warranty or on the "new" side of things such that you aren't spending $$$ on a service...as the cost ends up being the same.
WatchEater666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 04:03 PM   #2624
AlexDimi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EU
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by WatchEater666 View Post
Keep in mind the Zeitwerk is expensive to service, IIRC about the same as a Datograph. Also I think a model that old has the old movement that preloads. I would personally spend the money for a Zeitwerk still under warranty or on the "new" side of things such that you aren't spending $$$ on a service...as the cost ends up being the same.
Thank you for the feedback.
The specific watch has the new movement without preload and as soon as I pull the triger the warranty will start for 2 years.
Indeed the service for Zeitwerk costs really high amount 4.000 euros and according to AL'S service required every 5-7 years.
Still considering if is the right time to buy Zeitwerk and after few months the new model comes out.
AlexDimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 August 2021, 08:33 PM   #2625
Russell996
2024 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 4,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexDimi View Post
Thank you for the feedback.
The specific watch has the new movement without preload and as soon as I pull the triger the warranty will start for 2 years.
Indeed the service for Zeitwerk costs really high amount 4.000 euros and according to AL'S service required every 5-7 years.
Still considering if is the right time to buy Zeitwerk and after few months the new model comes out.
If the piece is 3.5 years old (bearing in mind the database of movements and cases is only a guide) then I would be asking for a service to be included in the price for you to make use of as and when appropriate. 👍
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 August 2021, 05:08 AM   #2626
RoscoPico
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Real Name: Chris
Location: USA
Watch: ingMe,WatchingYou.
Posts: 1,462
8 days on the wrist, didn't lose/gain 1 minute. so in love with this.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG-20210807-WA0001a.jpg (267.9 KB, 954 views)
RoscoPico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 August 2021, 09:02 PM   #2627
mario1971
"TRF" Member
 
mario1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Real Name: Mariusz
Location: Poland
Watch: Rolex, ALS
Posts: 2,477
__________________
This is my opinion and I fully support it
mario1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 August 2021, 05:47 PM   #2628
robinmgb
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Kent, England
Watch: Hublot BB Unico
Posts: 1,089
I’m picking up a 40mm Saxonia Thin on Saturday, very excited!
I know it’s very plain and I’d love a Lange 1 but want to experience the quality at the price I sold my Rolex Yacht Master II for yesterday.
I’ve owned a calatrava in the past and want that special piece of high horology feeling again, had enough of mass produced Rolex sports watches now!
robinmgb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 August 2021, 07:20 PM   #2629
Russell996
2024 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 4,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinmgb View Post
I’m picking up a 40mm Saxonia Thin on Saturday, very excited!
I know it’s very plain and I’d love a Lange 1 but want to experience the quality at the price I sold my Rolex Yacht Master II for yesterday.
I’ve owned a calatrava in the past and want that special piece of high horology feeling again, had enough of mass produced Rolex sports watches now!

Super congratulations, have a great Saturday.

Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 August 2021, 02:41 AM   #2630
ReturningSon
"TRF" Member
 
ReturningSon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Sacremento
Watch: ALS, Rolex, Seiko
Posts: 158
That honey gold enamel....drool

Wow, what a piece. Congrats. My boutique tried to get me allocation but they were all sold out by the time I had the funds together.
__________________
Lange 1815, Bulova Lunar Pilot, Rolex DeepSea, Rolex 1601 Linen Dial, Casio G-Shock
ReturningSon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 August 2021, 04:47 PM   #2631
mario1971
"TRF" Member
 
mario1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Real Name: Mariusz
Location: Poland
Watch: Rolex, ALS
Posts: 2,477
__________________
This is my opinion and I fully support it
mario1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 August 2021, 09:48 PM   #2632
yanomis
"TRF" Member
 
yanomis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by uniqueMR View Post
Whose buying or bought: 425.050
1815 Rattrapante Honeygold

ALS always releasing limited editions.
Comments!!
Placed an order for one, can't wait for it to arrive!
yanomis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 August 2021, 10:48 PM   #2633
mario1971
"TRF" Member
 
mario1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Real Name: Mariusz
Location: Poland
Watch: Rolex, ALS
Posts: 2,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by yanomis View Post
Placed an order for one, can't wait for it to arrive!
And we are waiting for the photo report.
__________________
This is my opinion and I fully support it
mario1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 August 2021, 09:21 AM   #2634
RoscoPico
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Real Name: Chris
Location: USA
Watch: ingMe,WatchingYou.
Posts: 1,462
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinmgb View Post
I’m picking up a 40mm Saxonia Thin on Saturday, very excited!
I know it’s very plain and I’d love a Lange 1 but want to experience the quality at the price I sold my Rolex Yacht Master II for yesterday.
I’ve owned a calatrava in the past and want that special piece of high horology feeling again, had enough of mass produced Rolex sports watches now!
oh i fully understand and congrats !
RoscoPico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 August 2021, 11:05 AM   #2635
Benzsiam
2024 Pledge Member
 
Benzsiam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS
Posts: 5,915
I love my Lange 1 Time Zone.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ALS 136.032-2A.jpg (273.7 KB, 582 views)
__________________
Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D.
Audemars Piguet: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) Patek Philippe: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"
, Seiko: SRPA21,
Benzsiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 August 2021, 12:06 PM   #2636
RolexSimon
"TRF" Member
 
RolexSimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,346
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benzsiam View Post
I love my Lange 1 Time Zone.
The only problem is you can't adjust the minute hands for 0.5 time zones like Adelaide, Darwin, Lord Howe, India, Cocos etc.
RolexSimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 August 2021, 05:27 PM   #2637
Russell996
2024 Pledge Member
 
Russell996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 4,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by RolexSimon View Post
The only problem is you can't adjust the minute hands for 0.5 time zones like Adelaide, Darwin, Lord Howe, India, Cocos etc.
How do you mean adjust the minutes hand? I understand that it only represents 24 hour zones but don't follow your point about adjusting the minute hand since it needs to represent the city shown?
Russell996 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2021, 05:10 AM   #2638
navrolex
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: uk
Posts: 32
hey, here's my Timezone with the older reference, just got it yesterday and man am i chuffed :)
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg resize.jpeg (287.8 KB, 503 views)
navrolex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2021, 09:46 AM   #2639
Benzsiam
2024 Pledge Member
 
Benzsiam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS
Posts: 5,915
Quote:
Originally Posted by navrolex View Post
hey, here's my Timezone with the older reference, just got it yesterday and man am i chuffed :)
Congrats, looks gorgeous!

We bought just about the same time, we talked about it from the other thread.
__________________
Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D.
Audemars Piguet: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) Patek Philippe: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"
, Seiko: SRPA21,
Benzsiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2021, 04:00 PM   #2640
navrolex
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: uk
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benzsiam View Post
Congrats, looks gorgeous!

We bought just about the same time, we talked about it from the other thread.
yes, we did, and love yours too. It is such a great timepiece. waiting for the second one now lol
navrolex is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

DavidSW Watches

Coronet

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.