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jayrawk · 25 July 2017, 08:38 AM

Seller is reputable from TRF and I purchased from before and everything was good but jsut for peace of mind.

I know the face had diamonds added to the original face thus not making it original but checking to see if watch is genuine. Thanks!

GLADIATOR · 25 July 2017, 05:30 PM

No pictures showing

crowncollection · 25 July 2017, 07:45 PM

need pics

jayrawk · 26 July 2017, 04:12 AM

Sorry about that see below

jayrawk · 26 July 2017, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

need pics

Sorry about that see below

jayrawk · 26 July 2017, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

need pics

Sorry having trouble uploading the hosted pics but these should work now.

please let me know, thanks!!!

lpestre · 27 July 2017, 05:29 AM

For me dial looks redone and the hands looks too fat, but this is only my opinion, I can be wrong.

GLADIATOR · 27 July 2017, 05:50 AM

Well dial is DEFINITELY not Rolex original
Date wheel font looks bad

Points to fake to me

Movement photo??

antrolexsub · 27 July 2017, 06:09 AM

Dials redone and hands are aftermarket as stated above. Date fonts fine, open 6 & 9s and flat top 3. Watch is genuine albeit battered.

jayrawk · 27 July 2017, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Well dial is DEFINITELY not Rolex original
Date wheel font looks bad

Points to fake to me

Movement photo??

The date wheel font so far, I got authenticated by others except this response, but could be the angle?

Here is photos of the movement and watch opened:

William.L. · 27 July 2017, 11:59 AM

as stated above dial isn't real. This should provide you a better idea on what the font on the dial should look like. She's also had a trip or 12 around a buffing wheel. From what I can see, it looks like a redial/ aftermarket dial, and they took a set of hands out of a 16013 like mine and installed them. While its all correctable I'd ask if you were getting it for a price which would reflect the things you'd need to do to fix it and or if they are stating that its a a genuine piece. Unless you've got your heart set on a 1601, I'd find another watch.

William.L. · 27 July 2017, 12:07 PM

Its late and my eyes are tired, but I'm also not seeing the swirl circular machining markings inside the case, unless the light is hiding it.

Masteryacht · 27 July 2017, 01:39 PM

It looks like a child did the lettering on the dial.

GLADIATOR · 27 July 2017, 05:08 PM

But movement is genuine, so just an aftermarket/reworked dial.
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antrolexsub · 27 July 2017, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William.L.

From what I can see, it looks like a redial/ aftermarket dial, and they took a set of hands out of a 16013 like mine and installed them.

A 16013 uses a Cal.3035, the 1601 has a 1570. The hand sizes are different for both movements and not interchangeable. The hands are aftermarket on this.

25 July 2017, 08:38 AM	#1
jayrawk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16013, 1803, 1601 Posts: 37	DJ 1601 Authentic? Head only Seller is reputable from TRF and I purchased from before and everything was good but jsut for peace of mind. I know the face had diamonds added to the original face thus not making it original but checking to see if watch is genuine. Thanks!

25 July 2017, 05:30 PM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	No pictures showing __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

25 July 2017, 07:45 PM	#3
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,171	need pics __________________ watches many

27 July 2017, 05:50 AM	#8
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Well dial is DEFINITELY not Rolex original Date wheel font looks bad Points to fake to me Movement photo?? __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

27 July 2017, 11:59 AM	#11
William.L. "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: William Location: Belleville Mi Watch: 1675 & 16013 Posts: 618	as stated above dial isn't real. This should provide you a better idea on what the font on the dial should look like. She's also had a trip or 12 around a buffing wheel. From what I can see, it looks like a redial/ aftermarket dial, and they took a set of hands out of a 16013 like mine and installed them. While its all correctable I'd ask if you were getting it for a price which would reflect the things you'd need to do to fix it and or if they are stating that its a a genuine piece. Unless you've got your heart set on a 1601, I'd find another watch. __________________ Omega Bumper Automatic Rolex Datejust 16013 TT Rolex GMT 1675/3 Tudor GMT Serti GMT

26 July 2017, 04:12 AM	#4
jayrawk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16013, 1803, 1601 Posts: 37	Sorry about that see below

27 July 2017, 05:29 AM	#7
lpestre 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Montreal/Paris Posts: 1,269	For me dial looks redone and the hands looks too fat, but this is only my opinion, I can be wrong.

27 July 2017, 06:09 AM	#9
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 760	Dials redone and hands are aftermarket as stated above. Date fonts fine, open 6 & 9s and flat top 3. Watch is genuine albeit battered.

27 July 2017, 12:07 PM	#12
William.L. "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: William Location: Belleville Mi Watch: 1675 & 16013 Posts: 618	Its late and my eyes are tired, but I'm also not seeing the swirl circular machining markings inside the case, unless the light is hiding it. __________________ Omega Bumper Automatic Rolex Datejust 16013 TT Rolex GMT 1675/3 Tudor GMT Serti GMT

27 July 2017, 01:39 PM	#13
Masteryacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: USA Watch: 16622,BLNR,116500 Posts: 985	It looks like a child did the lettering on the dial.

27 July 2017, 05:08 PM	#14
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	But movement is genuine, so just an aftermarket/reworked dial. A __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

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