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Old 7 June 2019, 05:08 PM   #31
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Was curious as to why there are a good amount of 15202’s,15400’s,15500’s On the secondary market in the United States but there is very limited supply of 13300s right now?
Congrats on your 15300, THE A/P to own, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see if the black dial iteration doesn't become more difficult to find in the future. It sells for a discount to the blue dial now but with prices approaching the 15202, which is only sold with a blue dial, the black dial could become a rarity.
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Old 8 June 2019, 12:11 AM   #32
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I'll take a 15500 over the 15300 or 15400 any day. I prefer the proportions, hour indices, just the right amount of bezel, movement sized to the case, date window position and disc color.

Overall the 15202 is the most harmonious proportionally and the dial is just perfect, but it's much more svelte and delicate in appearance.

I guess if you have 6.5" wrists, that is where the 15300 or 15450 shine though.

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Old 8 June 2019, 02:45 AM   #33
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One thing for the 15500st that once seen and cannot be unseen is the typeface used for the date. The blocky numerals throws off the classic look. It's almost like the typeface they uses for Code 11.59. Too futuristic for such a historical brand.



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Old 8 June 2019, 03:29 AM   #34
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I personally think the 300 is overrated. The dial looks dated especially with the white date window.
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Old 8 June 2019, 03:49 AM   #35
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Not a fan of the AP in place of the classic double baton at 12. Also not a fan of the off white date window.

I’ve had 2 15400 and the 15500 now. Would be happy with either but prefer the 15500 from head to toe.
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Old 8 June 2019, 03:59 AM   #36
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The dial looks dated especially with the white date window.
But that was the original Genta design, as was the blue/gray dial. I believe AP stopped the 15300 as it was far too similar to the 202, they needed to differentiate it to support its position as the one to have.
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Old 8 June 2019, 04:28 AM   #37
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But that was the original Genta design, as was the blue/gray dial. I believe AP stopped the 15300 as it was far too similar to the 202, they needed to differentiate it to support its position as the one to have.
Yes, the white datewheel is historically correct. Also amusing that I rarely hear anyone crying foul over the 5711's white datewheel!
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Old 8 June 2019, 04:36 AM   #38
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Yes, the white datewheel is historically correct. Also amusing that I rarely hear anyone crying foul over the 5711's white datewheel!
I actually prefer it.
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Old 8 June 2019, 04:38 AM   #39
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I actually prefer it.
so do I! But I'm doing a dial swap at AP Clearwater for a white, so it won't matter haha
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Old 8 June 2019, 05:10 AM   #40
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I personally think the 300 is overrated. The dial looks dated especially with the white date window.
I agree. For me, the large AP at 12 has always bothered me.
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Old 8 June 2019, 06:56 AM   #41
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the 15500 has too much dead space. im surprised they decided to shorten the markers, remove the automatic, AND move the company logo higher up at 12 o clock. doing all 3 things at once created such an empty space on the watch versus the 15400.
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Old 8 June 2019, 07:05 AM   #42
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Agreed. As a huge 15450 fan I think even the 15400 has too much space; the 15500 is a very interesting watch.
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Old 10 June 2019, 01:08 PM   #43
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Yes, the white datewheel is historically correct. Also amusing that I rarely hear anyone crying foul over the 5711's white datewheel!
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I actually prefer it.
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so do I! But I'm doing a dial swap at AP Clearwater for a white, so it won't matter haha
+ 1

Heaven forbid anyone criticize a 5711.

By luck years ago I came into a 300 white dial so I have no date wheel complaints.
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Old 10 June 2019, 01:38 PM   #44
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Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

This picture just nullified all the talking down some like to indulge in.

AP at twelve is a big plus for me as are the proportions. All the dials are great and the watch is an obvious winner.

So few available because the numbers made weren't plentiful and they are loved by real, end user, owners.
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Old 10 June 2019, 01:48 PM   #45
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This picture just nullified all the talking down some like to indulge in.

AP at twelve is a big plus for me as are the proportions. All the dials are great and the watch is an obvious winner.

So few available because the numbers made weren't plentiful and they are loved by real, end user, owners.
Well said. It is wearable modern art IMO.
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Old 11 June 2019, 12:38 AM   #46
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Well said. It is wearable modern art IMO.
I agree, just an incredible version of the classic original.
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:33 AM   #47
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I have tried the 15400, 15202, and bought the 15300 blue. It is one of the most photogenic watches and when the watch is sitting perfect on the wrist it is a true classic watch.

However I sold it. The watch is too delicate and without a raised case back, it never sat right on my wrist. Actually all AP's don't sit right on my wrist but I love their genta design.

The real game changer with AP would be to offer a bezel that is scratch resistant and a case back that is raised similar in height to the Sub C in a 39mm package. This would be THE AP to get..
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Old 12 June 2019, 09:25 AM   #48
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Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.



Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.


Agree with the chunkiness.
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Old 12 June 2019, 09:30 AM   #49
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Not sure why theres so much hype about the 15202-I understand its thin and elegant but a automatic watch needs to have a second hand-without it, the watch feels dead. Nothings sexier than a nice smooth second hand sweep....
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Old 12 June 2019, 09:36 AM   #50
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Agree with the chunkiness.
Odd, chunky would be the last way I would describe it. Even if it were true I wouldn't say it, I never understood down talking other peoples watches. Maybe I misunderstood, the thread was about the lack of 15300s on the market, was it not?
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Old 12 June 2019, 10:25 AM   #51
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Odd, chunky would be the last way I would describe it. Even if it were true I wouldn't say it, I never understood down talking other peoples watches. Maybe I misunderstood, the thread was about the lack of 15300s on the market, was it not?


I responded to post #7 which relates to the 15300 market. Using the word “chunky” does not relate to down talking other people. 15300 is a thicker watch. Both the 15300 and 15202 have the sweet spot of 39mm.

Perhaps I should clarify the case and bracelet dimensions were much thicker on the 15300 compared to 15202.
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I responded to post #7 which relates to the 15300 market. Using the word “chunky” does not relate to down talking other people. 15300 is a thicker watch. Both the 15300 and 15202 have the sweet spot of 39mm.

Perhaps I should clarify the case and bracelet dimensions were much thicker on the 15300 compared to 15202.
Well yes, you did respond to an off topic response, I grant you.

It's true, the 15300 is a little thicker than a 15202 but is still a slim watch in the general sense.

For my taste I agree with the post that enjoys a watch with a second hand. When I bought my 15300 I could have had a 15202 as well/instead but am extremely happy with the one Royal Oak I have, which was ultimately my point regarding the availability, their owners are satisfied and are keeping them.
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Old 12 June 2019, 09:41 PM   #53
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Well yes, you did respond to an off topic response, I grant you.

It's true, the 15300 is a little thicker than a 15202 but is still a slim watch in the general sense.

For my taste I agree with the post that enjoys a watch with a second hand. When I bought my 15300 I could have had a 15202 as well/instead but am extremely happy with the one Royal Oak I have, which was ultimately my point regarding the availability, their owners are satisfied and are keeping them.
It's not down talking, it is a descriptive fact the watch is bezel heavy and dial small, a problem AP acknowledged with the larger 15400 only there they went too dial heavy and wide for me, so I think 40mm would be the ideal size for this RO. But its size proportions are one reason why they are not as popular as the 202 and thus one of the reasons why you don't see many of them for sale. We are having these exact discussions over the 15500 and 15400 now, all part of forum debate and opinions, only on incoming threads are we to be positive only.
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But its size proportions are one reason why they are not as popular as the 202 and thus one of the reasons why you don't see many of them for sale. We are having these exact discussions over the 15500 and 15400 now, all part of forum debate and opinions, only on incoming threads are we to be positive only.
This doesn't make any sense. If they weren't popular due to size proportions, you would see more for sale to fund 202's or 15400/15500's and at low prices. When in fact, you see less of them for sale and last one sold from Nashville Watch for $26,500. This means people are keeping them and demanding a large premium to sell, and getting it. This would lead me to believe they are very popular.
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This doesn't make any sense. If they weren't popular due to size proportions, you would see more for sale to fund 202's or 15400/15500's and at low prices. When in fact, you see less of them for sale and last one sold from Nashville Watch for $26,500. This means people are keeping them and demanding a large premium to sell, and getting it. This would lead me to believe they are very popular.
+1. In fact the ratio between bezel and dial on the 15300 is what I like, much more than the subsequent iterations.
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This doesn't make any sense. If they weren't popular due to size proportions, you would see more for sale to fund 202's or 15400/15500's and at low prices. When in fact, you see less of them for sale and last one sold from Nashville Watch for $26,500. This means people are keeping them and demanding a large premium to sell, and getting it. This would lead me to believe they are very popular.
Thank you for pointing out the flawed logic.
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It's not down talking, it is a descriptive fact the watch is bezel heavy and dial small, a problem AP acknowledged with the larger 15400 only there they went too dial heavy and wide for me, so I think 40mm would be the ideal size for this RO.
Alternatively, AP had a problem with the 15300 taking sales from the 15202.

This RO is perfect to me and so many of its owners and that is why there are so few for sale, which again, is the topic of the thread.
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Old 13 June 2019, 04:18 AM   #58
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I like them all (15300, 15450, 15202, 15400, 15500)...they are all great, though I do prefer smaller sizes RO and they get more wrist times than their bigger size cousins





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This doesn't make any sense. If they weren't popular due to size proportions, you would see more for sale to fund 202's or 15400/15500's and at low prices. When in fact, you see less of them for sale and last one sold from Nashville Watch for $26,500. This means people are keeping them and demanding a large premium to sell, and getting it. This would lead me to believe they are very popular.
It was discoed years ago and many were sold for the 2 new ROs and prices plummeted to £6K even with no new supply reflecting its value in the market. Plus we hardly see any here, so no they are not that popular, those who have them may like them, but they are a minority.
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Alternatively, AP had a problem with the 15300 taking sales from the 15202.

This RO is perfect to me and so many of its owners and that is why there are so few for sale, which again, is the topic of the thread.
Indeed it did from the previous 202 which was too expensive and uninspiring and the 300 did very well, but then it got supplanted, twice.
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