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Old 1 February 2020, 03:10 AM   #91
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Great post! Learn something new here in this forum everyday,
Have you done the same authenticity check on the boxes as well? Maybe there are a lot interesting things too
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Old 1 February 2020, 03:35 AM   #92
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I think the fraudsters start with the same real card that everybody else has and copied it. Just like copying real currency though, they have trouble making fake holograms and special fonts. It just gets to too technical and cost too much to replicate to make it worth their while. This post allows users to identify fake cards. I don’t think this helped fake card manufacturers anymore than pointing out holograms on US currency or Euros allows counterfeiters to make fake money.
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What year did these security measures on the card start. Think it's important to know since you don't want to inspect a card prior to the start date and wrongly think you have a fake card.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:05 AM   #93
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This is the kind of post on this forum I love. Learned something new about Rolex.
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:09 AM   #94
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Great information...thank you...as for the hater(s)...shame shame shame..no cookies for them!!!
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:24 AM   #95
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Never knew this. Really cool and useful post!
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Old 1 February 2020, 06:51 AM   #96
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Wow, really usefull post.
I checked this at my Tudor card and it has the Tudor logos showing under UV light and the thin lines are printed Internationale Tudor Garantie
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:28 AM   #97
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Individuals should make sure their warranty actually matches the country its from (country code corresponding with the AD).

As well, different countries have different styles of displaying the warranty date.

I'm guessing the OP is from UK and therefore the format of the date printed on the card is "dd/mm/yyyy".

In Canada as an example the date format is "YYYY/MM/DD" and I believe that applies to the US as well.
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Old 1 February 2020, 08:10 AM   #98
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Very useful! Thanks!
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Old 1 February 2020, 08:57 AM   #99
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What year did these security measures on the card start. Think it's important to know since you don't want to inspect a card prior to the start date and wrongly think you have a fake card.
Checked the card for my Explorer 16570 from 2012, and it has the hologram that pops under UV light as well as the other details listed in the first post. Perhaps someone can chime in with information from an earlier card.
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:33 AM   #100
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:45 AM   #101
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Thanks for sharing. Super useful!
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Old 1 February 2020, 02:40 PM   #102
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Thanks for sharing.

I just had to crawl under the bed to check my cards even though purchased from AD.
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Old 1 February 2020, 05:27 PM   #103
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Thanks for the post very interesting.
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:19 PM   #104
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that was all new to me, cheers for the info
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Old 1 February 2020, 09:03 PM   #105
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Old 1 February 2020, 10:59 PM   #106
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I for one am very happy the OP posted this thread. Very helpful information.
I also disagree with the concept of keeping this kind of information secret so as not to tip off the Fakers. By keeping it secret from Fakers you are keeping it secret from nonexpert Forum members who come here in search of this kind of knowledge.

The best defense against Fakers is knowledge. Not knowing what to look for is the Fakers best friend. That's how we get duped. If they feel knowledge of certain details is little known among us buyers then there's no need to incorporate it into their forgeries. Even if they don't know about such security measures it's of no use if we don't know either. Two ignorances don't make a safer buying environment. The best thing is for Rolex like the US Treasury incorporates the highest security tech known to man and makes us aware of it. If it's sophisticated enough the Fakers/Forgers may find it too expensive or troublesome to obtain the technology to replicate those measures.

Yes it's always better to buy the seller but it's also good to know what you're doing. For myself the more knowledge I have the better off I feel. Thanks to all here who provide the educational threads to those of us lacking but wanting such knowledge.

The scammers today are too sophisticated to think that keeping something secret is really keeping something from them that they don't already know. We already saw videos of how the new Daytonas are being cloned inside and out and that it takes an informed expert eye to spot the tells. If the video did not point out the tells what good is the information that the Daytonas are being cloned almost perfectly. At least armed with the tells you have a fighting chance to avoid being duped.

Even honest watch sellers can be duped and resell a fake unknowingly, my motto is don't trust anybody, trust your own eyes first. And the only way you can do that is by learning as much as you can about the watch you are interested in. That only happens when the experts on the forum unselfishly share their expertise that I can tell you without a doubt takes many many hours and years to obtain. That is why I became a Pledge member right away, one bit of information learned is worth thousands of times the Pledge membership dues. Not to mention the innumerable amount of hours it would take to learn everything on my own.

Sorry for the long rant.
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Old 1 February 2020, 11:04 PM   #107
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This is helpful. I didn't notice all the little details.
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Old 1 February 2020, 11:59 PM   #108
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Awesome post! Thank you for helping insure what we purchase is legitimate.

Curious if there is anything special with a Tudor warranty card and if so could you do the same on that warranty card to help everyone. Thanks
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Old 2 February 2020, 12:08 AM   #109
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Old 2 February 2020, 12:13 AM   #110
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Great Info but it also just gave the fakers what they need ? Just saying
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Old 2 February 2020, 12:16 AM   #111
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:02 AM   #112
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Great information, thanks! I'm aware of the measures taken on the watches themselves but the warranty card features are new to me.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:05 AM   #113
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Some people like yourself cover the serial number to avoid copy cats from using it and yet you give away all the security measures from the card.
At least fraudsters now can step up their game and make perfect fake cards.
I appreciate the effort, good info and all, but it's a real pity that you made this post for the same reason we don't discuss fakes.
As if the fakers don't have examples of real warranty cards. Very naive.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:06 AM   #114
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Warranty Card Authenticity Check

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Awesome post! Thank you for helping insure what we purchase is legitimate.

Curious if there is anything special with a Tudor warranty card and if so could you do the same on that warranty card to help everyone. Thanks


There’s no hologram, but the 3 lines on the front are made up of the same ‘international guarantee’ type text - obviously ‘Rolex’ is replaced by Tudor.

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Old 2 February 2020, 02:06 AM   #115
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That’s a solid analysis of the warranty card! Well done!

I learned something new today!

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:08 AM   #116
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Interesting post. Thank you.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:12 AM   #117
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Individuals should make sure their warranty actually matches the country its from (country code corresponding with the AD).

As well, different countries have different styles of displaying the warranty date.

I'm guessing the OP is from UK and therefore the format of the date printed on the card is "dd/mm/yyyy".

In Canada as an example the date format is "YYYY/MM/DD" and I believe that applies to the US as well.


Yes, I’m from UK & you are correct about the different styles of displaying the date between different countries




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That’s a solid analysis of the warranty card! Well done!



I learned something new today!



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Old 2 February 2020, 02:37 AM   #119
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There’s no hologram, but the 3 lines on the front are made up of the same ‘international guarantee’ type text - obviously ‘Rolex’ is replaced by Tudor.

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There is a hologram.
It consist out of Tudor shield logos instead of Rolex
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