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syahriltaher · 14 October 2020, 03:08 PM

Guys....

I need your advice here.....

Got this offer from my Second Hand Watch Dealer.....

2018 Pre Owned PP World Timer 5230R for my 2018 TT Rootbeer + USD 15.5k....

Is this a fair trade? Would you recommend it?

Regards,

Rollieo · 14 October 2020, 03:18 PM

Two very difference watches. You don’t seem like a world timer kind of guy based on your signature.

Personally, i don’t like the world timer at all. Too busy, not big on dress watch leather bands. Patek makes beautiful watches, the casebacks are amazing. But this wouldn’t be on the top of my list for Patek.

Stratos · 14 October 2020, 03:55 PM

I would do this trade in a heartbeat

dmash · 14 October 2020, 04:12 PM

This is one of my favorite watches (albeit white gold version). I’d do that trade without even possibly thinking twice.

JayHantz · 14 October 2020, 09:42 PM

Heck yes I would. A CHNR is $18K USD used, and then adding $15,5 still gets you ahead based on used 5230R prices.

rmlovett1 · 14 October 2020, 09:47 PM

It’s a fair trade if you want a dressier, leather strap PP in your collection. If you want this more than the gmt...money and value aside....get what makes you happy

Maiden · 14 October 2020, 11:58 PM

I voted no, only because I do not like the aesthetic of this watch, busy unreadable dial, no seconds hands, not for me. However if it was a 5396R I would be all over it. So long story short, if you love it, absolutely do it!

prnceofpersia23 · 15 October 2020, 12:08 AM

I really like the 5230r and have watched prices hover around $35k for a while. Considering that most dealers will give you around $13-15k for the CHNR, I'd say you're getting a good deal with only $15.5k on top.

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dmash · 15 October 2020, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by prnceofpersia23

I really like the 5230r and have watched prices hover around $35k for a while. Considering that most dealers will give you around $13-15k for the CHNR, I'd say you're getting a good deal with only $15.5k on top.

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Yeah to be a dealer deal and not just a private seller, I honestly can’t believe he’s getting the better end of the stick by this much. Kind of nutty, they must have gotten the Patek for peanuts or something

enjoythemusic · 15 October 2020, 03:08 AM

Had the WT, both the 5110rg and the matching dealer wall clock.... it's a big no from me. Mmmmmmaybe for CHNR plus $10k, yet no more than that. jmho

fskywalker · 15 October 2020, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syahriltaher

Guys....

I need your advice here.....

Got this offer from my Second Hand Watch Dealer.....

2018 Pre Owned PP World Timer 5230R for my 2018 TT Rootbeer + USD 15.5k....

Is this a fair trade? Would you recommend it?

Regards,

picture would help to visualize which PP model is that one

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Arid · 15 October 2020, 03:28 AM

It’s a fair deal for the 5230; I would.

Alexwwjd · 15 October 2020, 03:28 AM

Don't do it. You'll regret it. Unless your Rootbeer doesn't get a lot of wrist time.

By the way... this poll looks like it's tied! nothing decided yet.

GMT Aviator · 15 October 2020, 03:55 AM

I wouldn’t. The Patek is almost unreadable. Too much clutter all over the dial and small hands.
The GMT is the better watch of the two.

Russell996 · 15 October 2020, 04:33 AM

The deal is certainly fair on the money front (anyone who suggests the money is wrong is letting their taste dictate the answer), only you know which you would prefer, no one else can answer that.

liborguy · 15 October 2020, 04:33 AM

yes no brainer for me....

Mr. Miami · 15 October 2020, 04:57 AM

i’d say go for it. money seems right and PP i’d a step a live Rolex.

dauster · 15 October 2020, 04:59 AM

I'd keep the Rolex unless you really love the PP - rolex will definitely keep its value in case that is important to you

Thrasher36 · 15 October 2020, 05:07 AM

The Patek is nice looking but not for me. I think many people are voting for the Patek because they think it's a good deal financially, But as far as a good looking watch compared to TT no way its not even close. TT GMT MASTER FTW

Watchflair · 15 October 2020, 05:41 AM

Well the math makes sense - if you want the watch it sounds like a deal.

I'm a fan of the piece - great function and love a micro rotor!

Pimpsy · 15 October 2020, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchflair

Well the math makes sense - if you want the watch it sounds like a deal.

I'm a fan of the piece - great function and love a micro rotor!

Agree!

Humble michael · 15 October 2020, 01:16 PM

Yep as long as PP WT has box and papers. Great trade in mo.james in San Antonio Tx

PurpleDial · 15 October 2020, 05:21 PM

Voted yes - based on signature, a classic PP piece would definately add to your collection.

Petroc Tremaine · 15 October 2020, 08:16 PM

Yup, get shot of that brown stain on your wrist...

ts3 · 15 October 2020, 08:41 PM

I don't like the dark guilloche pattern on the 5230 WT. Hence my answer is no regardless of whether the trade makes sense financially or not.

Much prefer any 5110 WT (or the 5231 so an AD will).

1William · 15 October 2020, 08:52 PM

The money is right on the trade if you want the watch.

enjoythemusic · 15 October 2020, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ts3

Much prefer any 5110 WT....

Ditto.

Another problem is the 5230R is out of warranty and looks to be a slow mover versus the fast-moving CHNR which is ~$19,500 and under warranty. We all know PP versus Rolex service time difference and costs. So yeah, with decades of experience here i'll stand by my $10k max for the PP 5230R WT trade... unless you're into paying top-level full retail for a slower-moving used out-of-warranty PP watch.

Maybe some of the fanboys here will pitch in a few bucks if they feel this is a good deal

BTW: Haven't looked too closely, did PP fix the old timezone problems / errors on the 5230R dial?

Russell996 · 15 October 2020, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

BTW: Haven't looked too closely, did PP fix the old timezone problems / errors on the 5230R dial?

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking.

Care to elaborate? (you know of course no mechanical timezone watch is accurate for extended periods).

GoingPlaces · 15 October 2020, 10:16 PM

It's a level up for sure.

enjoythemusic · 16 October 2020, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell996

I know I'm going to hate myself for asking.

Care to elaborate? (you know of course no mechanical timezone watch is accurate for extended periods).

Basically, time zones have changed in parts of the world as I recall (not just for DST). Older models had more 'errors' of incorrect time zone during the year. You are right of course, even with any 'now correct' TZ it changes and ebbs during the year in various parts of the world.

OP: I'd go for the 5110 as feel they got the dial right, and easy to read, the first time out. For those curious, PP 5110rg sold at $12.5 new as got one when they were first released. Just make sure it's been recently serviced, or allot four months and $$ off asking price to get her serviced.

View Poll Results: 2018 PP World Timer 5230R for 2018 TT Rootbeer + USD 15.5k
Yes	74	63.79%
No	43	37.07%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

14 October 2020, 03:08 PM	#1
syahriltaher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Real Name: Syahril Location: Bogor, Indonesia Watch: Rolex, Omega Posts: 650	Sell the TT Rootbeer to Finance the PP World Time 5230R? Guys.... I need your advice here..... Got this offer from my Second Hand Watch Dealer..... 2018 Pre Owned PP World Timer 5230R for my 2018 TT Rootbeer + USD 15.5k.... Is this a fair trade? Would you recommend it? Regards, __________________ - Rolex RG Daytona 116505 - Rolex SS Submariner "Hulk" - Rolex SS Sky Dweller "Black Dial" - Rolex SS GMT Master II 16710 "Coke" - Rolex GMT Master II CHNR "Rootbeer" TT - Rolex SS Daytona Ceramic 116500LN "Black Dial" - Rolex 126710 "New Batman" 2022 - Rolex SS/WG Datejust 41 126334 "Blue Roman" - Panerai "PAM 88" GMT - Omega New Moonwatch 3861

14 October 2020, 11:58 PM	#7
Maiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 3,650	I voted no, only because I do not like the aesthetic of this watch, busy unreadable dial, no seconds hands, not for me. However if it was a 5396R I would be all over it. So long story short, if you love it, absolutely do it! __________________ Rolex 116613LN Rolex 16610LN Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 41mm Omega Geneve Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112 Orient Ray 2

15 October 2020, 03:08 AM	#10
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,446	Had the WT, both the 5110rg and the matching dealer wall clock.... it's a big no from me. Mmmmmmaybe for CHNR plus $10k, yet no more than that. jmho __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

15 October 2020, 04:57 AM	#17
Mr. Miami "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: United States Posts: 881	i’d say go for it. money seems right and PP i’d a step a live Rolex. __________________ Time is Money.

14 October 2020, 03:18 PM	#2
Rollieo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,016	Two very difference watches. You don’t seem like a world timer kind of guy based on your signature. Personally, i don’t like the world timer at all. Too busy, not big on dress watch leather bands. Patek makes beautiful watches, the casebacks are amazing. But this wouldn’t be on the top of my list for Patek.

14 October 2020, 03:55 PM	#3
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	I would do this trade in a heartbeat

14 October 2020, 04:12 PM	#4
dmash "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 5,912	This is one of my favorite watches (albeit white gold version). I’d do that trade without even possibly thinking twice.

14 October 2020, 09:42 PM	#5
JayHantz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Texas Watch: @Escapementt Posts: 9,842	Heck yes I would. A CHNR is $18K USD used, and then adding $15,5 still gets you ahead based on used 5230R prices.

14 October 2020, 09:47 PM	#6
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,509	It’s a fair trade if you want a dressier, leather strap PP in your collection. If you want this more than the gmt...money and value aside....get what makes you happy

15 October 2020, 12:08 AM	#8
prnceofpersia23 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: AZ, USA Watch: 116500LN Posts: 1,876	I really like the 5230r and have watched prices hover around $35k for a while. Considering that most dealers will give you around $13-15k for the CHNR, I'd say you're getting a good deal with only $15.5k on top. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

15 October 2020, 03:28 AM	#12
Arid "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Smiths Falls Posts: 336	It’s a fair deal for the 5230; I would.

15 October 2020, 03:28 AM	#13
Alexwwjd "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Texas Watch: Out!!! Posts: 2,352	Don't do it. You'll regret it. Unless your Rootbeer doesn't get a lot of wrist time. By the way... this poll looks like it's tied! nothing decided yet.

15 October 2020, 03:55 AM	#14
GMT Aviator 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,276	I wouldn’t. The Patek is almost unreadable. Too much clutter all over the dial and small hands. The GMT is the better watch of the two.

15 October 2020, 04:33 AM	#15
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	The deal is certainly fair on the money front (anyone who suggests the money is wrong is letting their taste dictate the answer), only you know which you would prefer, no one else can answer that.

15 October 2020, 04:33 AM	#16
liborguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The world Posts: 82	yes no brainer for me....

15 October 2020, 04:59 AM	#18
dauster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,863	I'd keep the Rolex unless you really love the PP - rolex will definitely keep its value in case that is important to you

15 October 2020, 05:07 AM	#19
Thrasher36 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Thrasher Location: USA Watch: Polar 216570 Posts: 274	The Patek is nice looking but not for me. I think many people are voting for the Patek because they think it's a good deal financially, But as far as a good looking watch compared to TT no way its not even close. TT GMT MASTER FTW

15 October 2020, 05:41 AM	#20
Watchflair 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: 116500 116518LN Posts: 5,876	Well the math makes sense - if you want the watch it sounds like a deal. I'm a fan of the piece - great function and love a micro rotor! __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

15 October 2020, 01:16 PM	#22
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Yep as long as PP WT has box and papers. Great trade in mo.james in San Antonio Tx

15 October 2020, 05:21 PM	#23
PurpleDial "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Europe Watch: @gerwatchfamily Posts: 55	Voted yes - based on signature, a classic PP piece would definately add to your collection.

15 October 2020, 08:16 PM	#24
Petroc Tremaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Doggerland Posts: 186	Yup, get shot of that brown stain on your wrist...

15 October 2020, 08:41 PM	#25
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,236	I don't like the dark guilloche pattern on the 5230 WT. Hence my answer is no regardless of whether the trade makes sense financially or not. Much prefer any 5110 WT (or the 5231 so an AD will).

15 October 2020, 08:52 PM	#26
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,749	The money is right on the trade if you want the watch.

15 October 2020, 10:16 PM	#29
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	It's a level up for sure.

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