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Old 2 April 2020, 04:02 AM   #1
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I have a new watch coming and need to adjust the bracelet but of course, all AD's are shut down and I wouldn't mind learning to adjust it myself.

Anyway, I wanted to order a Bergeon 7825 (or Horofix tweezer equivalent) and Horotec 'T' Shape Screwdrivers 1.6 mm but Esslinger seems to be closed for the next few weeks. Can anyone suggest an alternate place to purchase or if the items are not available, alternative products. I would like to do this adjustment sooner than later.

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Old 2 April 2020, 04:52 AM   #2
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I just got a hell of a deal on the Bergeon 7825 on ebay!
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Old 2 April 2020, 04:58 AM   #3
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I have a new watch coming and need to adjust the bracelet but of course, all AD's are shut down and I wouldn't mind learning to adjust it myself.

Anyway, I wanted to order a Bergeon 7825 (or Horofix tweezer equivalent) and Horotec 'T' Shape Screwdrivers 1.6 mm but Esslinger seems to be closed for the next few weeks. Can anyone suggest an alternate place to purchase or if the items are not available, alternative products. I would like to do this adjustment sooner than later.

Thanks
Get yourself one of the knockoff Panerai screwdrivers (1.6mm and hollow ground). They're fantastic and sold all over eBay and Amazon for like ~$15.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:06 AM   #4
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J Borel seems to still be doing business.


http://www.julesborel.com/



There is a 3% discount coupon on their home page right now.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:16 AM   #5
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I just got a hell of a deal on the Bergeon 7825 on ebay!
Unfortunately, the only one on ebay sold in the USA is way more expensive than it should be. Like paying over retail for a SS Rolex. Hehe.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:16 AM   #6
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Get yourself one of the knockoff Panerai screwdrivers (1.6mm and hollow ground). They're fantastic and sold all over eBay and Amazon for like ~$15.
I found the one that I think you are talking about. Hopefully it works out. Thanks. Now just need to get the spring bar tool.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:17 AM   #7
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J Borel seems to still be doing business.


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There is a 3% discount coupon on their home page right now.
On their homepage, it says "Please note there will be a delay in shipping". Thanks though.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:21 AM   #8
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I found the one that I think you are talking about. Hopefully it works out. Thanks. Now just need to get the spring bar tool.
Trust me, that Panerai screwdriver is perfect for mens Rolex. Unless you definitely need to move the micro-adjust in the clasp, you can do without the spring bar tool. Bracelet doesn't necessarily need to be removed to size it.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:54 AM   #9
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Don't forget to heat up the area with a hair dryer. The screw will turn easily. I like to use purple Loctite when putting the screw back in. If you don't have purple available, use clear fingernail polish until you can get some. At least that is my M.O.
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:49 AM   #10
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Don't forget to heat up the area with a hair dryer. The screw will turn easily. I like to use purple Loctite when putting the screw back in. If you don't have purple available, use clear fingernail polish until you can get some. At least that is my M.O.
Thanks. I have some Loctite 222 on its way. I hope that the screws won't put up too much of a fight coming out.
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Old 2 April 2020, 07:07 AM   #11
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On their homepage, it says "Please note there will be a delay in shipping". Thanks though.
Order it and be patient. Simple.

Everything is slow now. US carriers are no longer guaranteeing transit times. Even if you find a reseller who promises a one-hour turnaround and priority overnight shipping, the carriers aren't currently adhering to their service guarantee times. Patience is key.
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Old 2 April 2020, 07:18 AM   #12
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I found the one that I think you are talking about. Hopefully it works out. Thanks. Now just need to get the spring bar tool.

Hey OP!

Can you share a link please? PM me if you have to. I want to size the bracelet on my Datejust but I need a 1.3mm I think
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Old 3 April 2020, 02:25 AM   #13
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Hey OP!

Can you share a link please? PM me if you have to. I want to size the bracelet on my Datejust but I need a 1.3mm I think
Here is the one that I went with. I searched for Panerai screwdriver and this one had sold the most. There are cheaper alternatives but this one lined up with the recommendation.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCREW-DRIVE...53.m2749.l2649
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Old 3 April 2020, 02:34 AM   #14
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Instead of starting a new thread, I thought that I would ask here first. Well the watch came and I had a question about the last screw near the clasp. Can I remove it? The reason I ask is there is the obvious place to use the screwdriver, but unlike every other link, on the other side, you can't see that the screw goes all the way through. I just want to make sure this is also removable before I try really hard to only figure out that it cannot be removed.

Also would you try to heat up the end to help remove the threadlock just like the other screws?

I have attached pics to show what I'm talking about.
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Yes, you can remove that one. It's a blind hole and the screw is a couple millimeters shorter than the rest.
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Yes, you can remove that one. It's a blind hole and the screw is a couple millimeters shorter than the rest.
Thank you very much. Now I just need to wait for the screw driver to arrive.
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Here is the one that I went with. I searched for Panerai screwdriver and this one had sold the most. There are cheaper alternatives but this one lined up with the recommendation.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCREW-DRIVE...53.m2749.l2649

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Old 3 April 2020, 06:35 AM   #18
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And good luck with sizing! Keep us posted :D
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Old 5 April 2020, 05:56 AM   #19
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As a follow up, the procedure was a success. My first time adjusting at home and I liked it better than at the AD. I could move links around from one side to the other and not have folks roll their eyes at how picky I was being.

Anyway, the screwdriver that NKflyer recommended worked like a charm. I have attached a pic so you can see that it is the right shape. Only one screw stuck. I heated it up a little but still needed a little more pressure to take it out. But nothing slipped or stripped.

Also attached a quick shot of the fit.
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Old 5 April 2020, 06:16 AM   #20
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As a follow up, the procedure was a success. My first time adjusting at home and I liked it better than at the AD. I could move links around from one side to the other and not have folks roll their eyes at how picky I was being.

Anyway, the screwdriver that NKflyer recommended worked like a charm. I have attached a pic so you can see that it is the right shape. Only one screw stuck. I heated it up a little but still needed a little more pressure to take it out. But nothing slipped or stripped.

Also attached a quick shot of the fit.

Nice!

I ordered two 1.2mm screwdrivers yesterday so I can do this too.
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Old 24 April 2020, 02:30 AM   #21
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Just wanted to bump this thread and say thank you to the participants!

I resized my watch successfully a few days ago and am super happy with the fit and the experience. I will post a thread about it later!
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Old 24 April 2020, 03:01 AM   #22
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Nice to hear of more watches successfully resized by owners and thus not being butchered by the incompetent #@*&!% ham-fisted sales associates.
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