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ravenhome777 · 3 February 2020, 12:53 PM

I have seen discoloration on two-tone jubilee bracelets a couple times, and I was wondering if anyone knows why this happens.

Is it a legit thing that happens to two-tone jubilees or is it something to be concerned about?

I would think that gold wouldn't discolor. That's why I am wondering if it could be a red flag.

To be honest, I kind of like the look of it. From the pics, it looks like gun bluing almost, which is kind of cool. But I was just concerned that it might be a sign of non-Rolex parts.

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offrdmania · 3 February 2020, 01:17 PM

That is what gold looks like when it oxidizes. I personally like the look of it, its great patina.

ravenhome777 · 3 February 2020, 01:52 PM

Thanks. Although, that's the part that I'm confused about I guess. I thought gold doesn't oxidize. I thought it could remain in the ground for a bazillion years, exposed to dirt and moisture, ect, and it would be exactly the same when you pull it out.

miamiclay · 3 February 2020, 02:23 PM

It’s not the gold that oxidizes, it’s the 25% other metals in 18K. I’ve heard it called “vault copper.”

Dr.Smellody · 3 February 2020, 04:17 PM

Beautiful.

ravenhome777 · 3 February 2020, 07:45 PM

Interesting. Thanks!

214270Explorer · 4 February 2020, 03:34 AM

What miamiclay said.

SunTzu · 4 February 2020, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by miamiclay

It’s not the gold that oxidizes, it’s the 25% other metals in 18K. I’ve heard it called “vault copper.”

It happens on 24k too. I have it on some of my gold bullion in the vault. I had it on my vintage Tudor 14k fluted bezel. I think it's hideous and removed it. Tarnished gold is not attractive in my opinion. It looks like reddish brown dirt. Gold to me should be gleaming.

Dr.Smellody · 4 February 2020, 04:21 AM

Here is my tarnished Datejust. I could wipe that all off and make it yellow again. But I love how it has aged.

ravenhome777 · 4 February 2020, 12:16 PM

Nice. I'd leave it. I love patina.

Dr.Smellody · 4 February 2020, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenhome777

Nice. I'd leave it. I love patina.

Agree!!

chocopeluche · 5 February 2020, 04:56 AM

Ive read that some Rolexes (destined) for the US markets had 14k instead of 18k for the gold in the two tone. So as other have mentioned that non-gold portion patinas, and is why some patina more than others.

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ravenhome777 · 5 February 2020, 11:58 AM

Anyone else have pics of their patina gold?

miamiclay · 5 February 2020, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenhome777

Anyone else have pics of their patina gold?

Not mine (obv), but I assume you’ve seen this one, the “Dark Star”? Reportedly stored in a sock in a safe. I’ve wondered whether the crown is a different alloy, or why it didn’t patinate.
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ravenhome777 · 5 February 2020, 01:26 PM

wow - no I haven't seen that. It's a beauty. It looks like blued metal. Gorgeous!

ravenhome777 · 23 February 2020, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by miamiclay

Not mine (obv), but I assume you’ve seen this one, the “Dark Star”? Reportedly stored in a sock in a safe. I’ve wondered whether the crown is a different alloy, or why it didn’t patinate.
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I've heard other people say that they stored a watch in a sock in a safe. Is storing watches in socks "a thing". Does it speed up the patina process because it allows moisture in, or is it just the closest thing somebody had to put a watch in?

moore2 · 23 February 2020, 10:08 AM

Nice and thanks for sharing...

zapokee · 25 February 2020, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by miamiclay

Reportedly stored in a sock in a safe.

Both in a sock AND in a safe? Somebody's taking no risks...

I love the brownish-purple patina that old gold alloys develop.

ravenhome777 · 25 February 2020, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zapokee

Both in a sock AND in a safe? Somebody's taking no risks...

I love the brownish-purple patina that old gold alloys develop.

Ha! No one's getting through that sock. Not one of mine, at least.

1watch · 26 February 2020, 02:55 AM

Sock likely to have some protection around the watch so other things don’t bang into it

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3 February 2020, 12:53 PM	#1
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	Cause of discoloration on Jubilee bracelets I have seen discoloration on two-tone jubilee bracelets a couple times, and I was wondering if anyone knows why this happens. Is it a legit thing that happens to two-tone jubilees or is it something to be concerned about? I would think that gold wouldn't discolor. That's why I am wondering if it could be a red flag. To be honest, I kind of like the look of it. From the pics, it looks like gun bluing almost, which is kind of cool. But I was just concerned that it might be a sign of non-Rolex parts. https://ibb.co/9qqRSRT https://ibb.co/9Gw6FCb

3 February 2020, 01:17 PM	#2
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,849	That is what gold looks like when it oxidizes. I personally like the look of it, its great patina. __________________ TRF Member 11738

4 February 2020, 03:34 AM	#7
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	What miamiclay said. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

5 February 2020, 04:56 AM	#12
chocopeluche "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: san francisco Posts: 472	Ive read that some Rolexes (destined) for the US markets had 14k instead of 18k for the gold in the two tone. So as other have mentioned that non-gold portion patinas, and is why some patina more than others. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex OQ Fanatic SF, CA

3 February 2020, 01:52 PM	#3
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	Thanks. Although, that's the part that I'm confused about I guess. I thought gold doesn't oxidize. I thought it could remain in the ground for a bazillion years, exposed to dirt and moisture, ect, and it would be exactly the same when you pull it out.

3 February 2020, 02:23 PM	#4
miamiclay 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: 33139/95460 Posts: 1,293	It’s not the gold that oxidizes, it’s the 25% other metals in 18K. I’ve heard it called “vault copper.”

3 February 2020, 04:17 PM	#5
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,198	Beautiful.

3 February 2020, 07:45 PM	#6
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	Interesting. Thanks!

4 February 2020, 04:21 AM	#9
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,198	Here is my tarnished Datejust. I could wipe that all off and make it yellow again. But I love how it has aged.

4 February 2020, 12:16 PM	#10
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	Nice. I'd leave it. I love patina.

5 February 2020, 11:58 AM	#13
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	Anyone else have pics of their patina gold?

5 February 2020, 01:26 PM	#15
ravenhome777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: toledo Posts: 392	wow - no I haven't seen that. It's a beauty. It looks like blued metal. Gorgeous!

23 February 2020, 10:08 AM	#17
moore2 Banned Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 101	Nice and thanks for sharing...

26 February 2020, 02:55 AM	#20
1watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: US Posts: 657	Sock likely to have some protection around the watch so other things don’t bang into it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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