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Old 26 May 2012, 03:59 PM   #1
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GMT 16700 vs 1675 Question

I have a 16700 Pepsi and am considering trading it for a 1675 Pepsi. I'm considering this because I like the pantina on the 1675 and because it has more of a vintage look. However, in a few years the 16700 may be regarded in the same way. I even considered keeping both. But that would be too much.

Any comments re values, movements, etc.? Thanks.
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Old 26 May 2012, 04:35 PM   #2
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I have a 16700 Pepsi and am considering trading it for a 1675 Pepsi. I'm considering this because I like the pantina on the 1675 and because it has more of a vintage look. However, in a few years the 16700 may be regarded in the same way. I even considered keeping both. But that would be too much.

Any comments re values, movements, etc.? Thanks.
What is the serial number series of your 16700. I have a 16700 and it is my daily wear watch....and one of my most accurate. I say stretch and have both,

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Old 26 May 2012, 04:52 PM   #3
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I am not sure. I know it was made in 1991 and is also my daily. Thanks
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Old 26 May 2012, 05:00 PM   #4
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i think matt dial is a plus. i would chose the older.
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Old 26 May 2012, 06:12 PM   #5
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Old 26 May 2012, 06:23 PM   #6
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I say keep them both if you can. But if I can only have one I would go for the 1675.
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Old 26 May 2012, 09:35 PM   #7
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Ok thanks guys. I might just keep both. @Paladin - the 16700 keeps very accurate time indeed. How's the 1675 compare?
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Old 26 May 2012, 09:54 PM   #8
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I've had both and prefer the 1675. Vintage plexi crystal is taller and more interesting, silver date wheel, matte dial and just a tad lighter and ultra comfortable with smooth case back styling.
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Old 26 May 2012, 10:01 PM   #9
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I would go for the 1675.
Plexi models are already considered vintage and their value will keep going up.
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Old 26 May 2012, 10:50 PM   #10
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Keep both if possible. I love my 16700. But if I could only have one, it would be the 1675. Remember, plexi is sexy.
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Old 26 May 2012, 11:19 PM   #11
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I've had both and prefer the 1675. Vintage plexi crystal is taller and more interesting, silver date wheel, matte dial and just a tad lighter and ultra comfortable with smooth case back styling.
1675 is a real vintage watch, the 16700 while nice, surely isn't vintage...
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Old 27 May 2012, 01:22 AM   #12
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1675 is a real vintage watch, the 16700 while nice, surely isn't vintage...
True enough in the strictest definition of vintage, however, for the sake of arguement;

The 16700 is out of production
The 16700 was the last of the true, original "GMT's" n terms of GMT function
The 16700 had a much shorter production run than 1675
The 16700 has twice the depth rating as the 1675
The 16700 has the more accurate fast beat 3175 movement
The 16700 is less common in the classifieds on every major Rolex forum

While not a true vintage with matte dial and acrylic crystal, the 16700 is a very nice mix of old and new that one could argue is a transitional rolex, that I think will become increasingly more appreciated in the future.

I was torn with your question... I love the matte/plastic look as well which I guess explains why I have a number of the 16750 series watches. Being that whatever you choose would be your only watch, the quickset date of the 16700 is a non issue as the 1675 will be on your wrist all the time. I guess I am just greedy, hence my suggestion that you have both.
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Old 27 May 2012, 05:53 AM   #13
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I posed this same question to a local Rolex certified watchmaker and collector today and in his opinion only the 1675 is truly vintage from a collectibility perspective. Both are great watches. So it really boils down to do you want a vintage model or not.
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Old 27 May 2012, 07:22 AM   #14
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The 1675 is the model that everyone wants... Ignoring the bakelites from the 50s. I think the 16750 ranks before the 16700

I have a 1675 and I am a bit careful wearing it. It doesn't have the same rugged (jump in the pool) feel the 16700 likely gives you. In fact, I have not pressure tested it because I don't want to swim w it.
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Old 27 May 2012, 08:25 AM   #15
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The 1675 is the model that everyone wants... Ignoring the bakelites from the 50s. I think the 16750 ranks before the 16700

I have a 1675 and I am a bit careful wearing it. It doesn't have the same rugged (jump in the pool) feel the 16700 likely gives you. In fact, I have not pressure tested it because I don't want to swim w it.
And with any vintage acrylic crystal watch you need regular pressure testing. The plastic can become brittle and develop stress cracks over time that compromise the watertight integerity of the watch.
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Old 27 May 2012, 08:39 AM   #16
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When I had my 1675 I only wore it one or two days a month.
So after 26 years I sold at Chritmas time.
The other day I was in the store where I sold it and it is still in the display case.
I will replace it some day with a 1675 Root Beer.
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Old 27 May 2012, 02:17 PM   #17
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Paladin, it's good advice to the group and i well understand this. I treat my 1675 as a non- waterproof watch. If I damaged the dial I would nevr forgive myself.
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Old 27 May 2012, 05:22 PM   #18
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The 16700 GMT with the sapphire crystal is a great watch with its quick-set date feature. It was sold alongside the GMT II 16710 until the 16700 was discontinued around 2000. It was produced in limited quantities compared to the GMT II and is very hard to find as a complete boxed set. It has great collector potential and when the "masses" finally discover it, like they did with the GMT II 16760 "fat lady," prices will appreciate accordingly. In my opinion, the GMT 16700 is a great watch for any collector to add to their collection at this time. It will only go up in value.

Good luck finding a complete set!
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Old 27 May 2012, 06:36 PM   #19
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I am currently thinking about getting a 1675 from the vinatge year of 1958
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Old 27 May 2012, 07:43 PM   #20
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Wow thanks guys. Your comments are all helpful. I guess with the 16700 I can always switch the bezels from Pepsi to Coke or black. With the 1675 I can keep it Pepsi. And yes I agree the 16700 is amazingly rugged and accurate as well. I have worn it for 21 years on and off then daily the last year.
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Old 27 May 2012, 09:35 PM   #21
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Personally I have problems seeing modern watches getting that rare. Production is up so much and even if 16700 was the odd bird it's still not really difficult to source. For me vintage rolex is all about plastic and non-white gold indexes.

My suggestion is that you try a 1675 out. For me the charm having it on your wrist is so much higher compared to the the sapphire models. If the plastic doesn't make you smile wiider then you know that you should keep the 16700. Out of a collector perspective I don't think a 16700 in great shape will ever be more valuable than a standard 1675 in equal condition. Of course just speculation but I don't think it will.

Personally I always go after the one I like more. What if's like future value I leave for others.

Good luck!
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Old 28 May 2012, 12:42 AM   #22
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My suggestion is that you try a 1675 out. For me the charm having it on your wrist is so much higher compared to the the sapphire models. If the plastic doesn't make you smile wiider then you know that you should keep the 16700. Out of a collector perspective I don't think a 16700 in great shape will ever be more valuable than a standard 1675 in equal condition. Of course just speculation but I don't think it will.

Personally I always go after the one I like more. What if's like future value I leave for others.

Good luck!
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