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Old 29 September 2020, 08:19 PM   #1
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Shall I go down the route of GreyMarket?

Hi guys
I need 1 more watch to complete my collection of Rolexs before i start the next brand. This is an expensive habit haha.
But ive always bought from ADs but the Daytona is a no go regardless of the relationships with ADs. I want a black ceramic and the price on greymarket is circa double. But ive bought all at the rolex price so would still be in profit if i ever needed to sell.
I bought my green sub at £6050.
Shall i do it?
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:22 PM   #2
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Could get a gold one from AD?
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:23 PM   #3
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You got a blue sky-dweller but can't get a Daytona from your AD?
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:24 PM   #4
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I’d get the DD before worrying about a Daytona. Would be easier on you and available at an AD + cost ~10K more than you’ll pay for a 116500 @ grey price


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Old 29 September 2020, 08:29 PM   #5
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If price is no issue why bother waiting. Assuming your from Asia (south east), chances of getting sports Rolexes at RRP (regardless of AD or Grey) are lesser than being struck by lightning.

Unless of course, you have a big portfolio with the AD, which again meaning price is never the issue.
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:34 PM   #6
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I’d get the DD before worrying about a Daytona. Would be easier on you and available at an AD + cost ~10K more than you’ll pay for a 116500 @ grey price


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I know some may find this weird but as a muslim man we are forbidden to were gold otherwise id love a day date witu green dial.


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Old 29 September 2020, 08:35 PM   #7
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I think you have summarized your position quite well, the price of the SS Daytona in the grey market would be double msrp. If you have that kind of money to spend with no regret, then go for it. I don’t think a forum can tell you how to spend your money. Good luck.
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:37 PM   #8
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I know some may find this weird but as a muslim man we are forbidden to were gold otherwise id love a day date witu green dial.


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You do know that all indices are 18k gold? The bezel on your Skydweller is 18k white gold.

I guess there's an exception to every rule
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:38 PM   #9
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You do know that all indices are 18k gold? The bezel on your Skydweller is 18k white gold.

I guess there's an exception to every rule

Yes as its only a small percentage of the watch and not the whole watch. Whereas in the day date it all gold.
They should release a stainless steel day date haha


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Old 29 September 2020, 08:39 PM   #10
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SS Daytona at Grey is too much over price.
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:41 PM   #11
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Yes as its only a small percentage of the watch and not the whole watch. Whereas in the day date it all gold.
They should release a stainless steel day date haha


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There's a platinum Day-date for you then. I wonder where the rule is that a small percentage of gold is ok?
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Old 29 September 2020, 08:41 PM   #12
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I know some may find this weird but as a muslim man we are forbidden to were gold otherwise id love a day date witu green dial.

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Understand - then this one might fill out the collection without a problem.





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Old 29 September 2020, 08:43 PM   #13
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There's a platinum Day-date for you then. I wonder where the rule is that a small percentage of gold is ok?

Thats what ive read online let me find the link.


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There's a platinum Day-date for you then. I wonder where the rule is that a small percentage of gold is ok?

Im not rich lol.
Thats toooooooo expensive.
Ive bought these as a way of investing for my children also.


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Old 29 September 2020, 08:54 PM   #15
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Shall I go down the route of GreyMarket?

No, do not pay 2X MSRP for a hyped watch


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Old 29 September 2020, 09:01 PM   #16
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Aint no way, Aint no freakin way! Please dont feed em greymonsters! The more you feed them the more they become hungry...pls...
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Old 29 September 2020, 09:08 PM   #17
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I find it hard to believe that there would be any actual writing mentioning "if containing a small percentage of gold, it's ok to wear" :-)

It's very much either you wear something gold, or you don't.

Of course you can find plenty mentioning of jewelry websites that "sometimes" it's okay. Even if it's gold "plated" then it's okay. Again, those would be websites from jewelers trying to sell their products.

"Here we would present some allah jewelry for your choice to match are Muslim Men NOT Allowed to Wear Gold." <- I particularly liked this one.

If we're going deeper then:

The Prophet (saws) took silk and held it in his right hand, and took gold and held it in his left hand and said: both of these are prohibited to the males of my community.

The Prophet (saw) did not specifically mention the reasons why gold and its ornaments are prohibited for the males of the muslim community but many eminent scholars in islam have given several opinions in their search for the wisdom and hikmah behind this prohibition. They have stated that it could be because of the segregation of sexes in islam, it could be because gold and silk were (and are) considered the epitome of luxury in this world and by displaying them openly would lead to arrogance and flamboyance or simply because Allah specifically mentions in the Holy Quran that the believers will be adorned with gold and silk in paradise and thus he (saws) wanted the believers to always prefer the life of the hereafter to the life of luxury of this world.

Others believe gold jewelry is the exclusive articles for women only. Men shouldn't imitate women in order to keep men' masculinity.


Wearing a Rolex watch would definitely be the epitome of displaying wealth, regardless if gold or not.

As long as you feel you can keep your masculinity while wearing gold, I'd say you don't need to worry. I'm sure there are plenty of other rules that are also not being followed, so once could ask why is this one so important?
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Old 29 September 2020, 09:24 PM   #18
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If you like buying new from an AD, buy a TT Daytona and move on.
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Old 29 September 2020, 10:48 PM   #19
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I find it hard to believe that there would be any actual writing mentioning "if containing a small percentage of gold, it's ok to wear" :-)

It's very much either you wear something gold, or you don't.

Of course you can find plenty mentioning of jewelry websites that "sometimes" it's okay. Even if it's gold "plated" then it's okay. Again, those would be websites from jewelers trying to sell their products.

"Here we would present some allah jewelry for your choice to match are Muslim Men NOT Allowed to Wear Gold." &lt;- I particularly liked this one.

If we're going deeper then:

The Prophet (saws) took silk and held it in his right hand, and took gold and held it in his left hand and said: both of these are prohibited to the males of my community.

The Prophet (saw) did not specifically mention the reasons why gold and its ornaments are prohibited for the males of the muslim community but many eminent scholars in islam have given several opinions in their search for the wisdom and hikmah behind this prohibition. They have stated that it could be because of the segregation of sexes in islam, it could be because gold and silk were (and are) considered the epitome of luxury in this world and by displaying them openly would lead to arrogance and flamboyance or simply because Allah specifically mentions in the Holy Quran that the believers will be adorned with gold and silk in paradise and thus he (saws) wanted the believers to always prefer the life of the hereafter to the life of luxury of this world.

Others believe gold jewelry is the exclusive articles for women only. Men shouldn't imitate women in order to keep men' masculinity.


Wearing a Rolex watch would definitely be the epitome of displaying wealth, regardless if gold or not.

As long as you feel you can keep your masculinity while wearing gold, I'd say you don't need to worry. I'm sure there are plenty of other rules that are also not being followed, so once could ask why is this one so important?

Love this. Allhumdulillah i follow all the rules my brother as a practicing Muslim. As much as my knowledge allows me to.
Funnily enough the watches with gold (sky dweller and date just 41) i do not wear at all. They are unworn part of my collection.
My daily is the green sub and blnr even though the blnr hasnt been worn since mid 2019.

Even though what i read sort of justified wearing one inside i still always felt it as being wrong.


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Old 29 September 2020, 10:49 PM   #20
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If you like buying new from an AD, buy a TT Daytona and move on.

Whats a TT daytona?


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Old 29 September 2020, 10:51 PM   #21
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Whats a TT daytona?
https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmog...6503-0001.html

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Old 29 September 2020, 10:54 PM   #22
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If the black dial Daytona is the only watch left to complete your collection, then I say go for it! I don’t think the extra premium will make even a small dent to your wallet.
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Old 29 September 2020, 10:57 PM   #23
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TT = Two Tone (steel and gold).

BTW it's not allowed to talk about religion on this forum (see rule 6 of the forum rules).
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I don’t think the extra premium will make even a small dent to your wallet.
You know, even just 5 years ago I’d see this collection and agree, but now you’d be surprised. I know a guy right now who has almost his entire retirement in wristwatches and a few grand is definitely a lot of money to him. People aren’t buying these as hobbies anymore with excess money, they’re buying them as stores of value. Crazy times!

*Not saying this is you OP, just using as an example
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I find it hard to believe that there would be any actual writing mentioning "if containing a small percentage of gold, it's ok to wear" :-)

It's very much either you wear something gold, or you don't.

Of course you can find plenty mentioning of jewelry websites that "sometimes" it's okay. Even if it's gold "plated" then it's okay. Again, those would be websites from jewelers trying to sell their products.

"Here we would present some allah jewelry for your choice to match are Muslim Men NOT Allowed to Wear Gold." <- I particularly liked this one.

If we're going deeper then:

The Prophet (saws) took silk and held it in his right hand, and took gold and held it in his left hand and said: both of these are prohibited to the males of my community.

The Prophet (saw) did not specifically mention the reasons why gold and its ornaments are prohibited for the males of the muslim community but many eminent scholars in islam have given several opinions in their search for the wisdom and hikmah behind this prohibition. They have stated that it could be because of the segregation of sexes in islam, it could be because gold and silk were (and are) considered the epitome of luxury in this world and by displaying them openly would lead to arrogance and flamboyance or simply because Allah specifically mentions in the Holy Quran that the believers will be adorned with gold and silk in paradise and thus he (saws) wanted the believers to always prefer the life of the hereafter to the life of luxury of this world.

Others believe gold jewelry is the exclusive articles for women only. Men shouldn't imitate women in order to keep men' masculinity.


Wearing a Rolex watch would definitely be the epitome of displaying wealth, regardless if gold or not.

As long as you feel you can keep your masculinity while wearing gold, I'd say you don't need to worry. I'm sure there are plenty of other rules that are also not being followed, so once could ask why is this one so important?
Some Muslim men are of the opinion that any gold is forbidden, some say a small percentage is fine and some say as long as the gold isn't touching your skin it's ok i.e. a SS datejust with a WG fluted bezel.

You're right not everyone will follow this rule, I have strong faith, observe my five daily prayers etc but I choose to wear my 126233 TT DJ every now and again. Each to their own I guess!

OP - I find it amazing that after everything you've bought from AD they can't offer you a Daytona!
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Old 30 September 2020, 12:03 AM   #26
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Some Muslim men are of the opinion that any gold is forbidden, some say a small percentage is fine and some say as long as the gold isn't touching your skin it's ok i.e. a SS datejust with a WG fluted bezel.

You're right not everyone will follow this rule, I have strong faith, observe my five daily prayers etc but I choose to wear my 126233 TT DJ every now and again. Each to their own I guess!

OP - I find it amazing that after everything you've bought from AD they can't offer you a Daytona!

SubhanAllah this was what i was trying to say also. There is loads of muftis with loads of different opinions. Fatwas even.
Ive bought alot more haha for friends and family also all from the same AD.
Let me message him actually.


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Old 30 September 2020, 12:07 AM   #27
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If gold is out, then maybe platinum? =)
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Old 30 September 2020, 12:26 AM   #28
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Old 30 September 2020, 12:30 AM   #29
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Seems like your AD has got you some pretty incredible and difficult to obtain pieces... maybe wait it out and they will come through.
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Seems like your AD has got you some pretty incredible and difficult to obtain pieces... maybe wait it out and they will come through.

Hes an amazing guy and always comes through. But honestly the Daytona is just too high in demand.


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