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FreshPrince14 · 25 March 2019, 07:48 AM

Just noticed this listing on Chrono24 and thought it may be of some interest...
https://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/gm...US&SETCURR=EUR

I don't have much German but the listing appears to say "New is this 126710BLNR featured at Basel World this week. New". Someone who can speak German may provide a better translation but clearly the seller (who is a trusted seller since 2016) is trying to pass this off as being the newest release BLNR. I'm assuming the jubilee is simply taken from a different watch. Under "Year" it clearly states 06-2017 so obviously this doesn't line up with it being featured at BW this week. As well as this, under "Caliber" the movement is listed as "Automatic" and doesn't mention the new 3285 movement anywhere.

All of this being advertised for €17,950. So clearly the seller trying to pull the wool over the eyes of an uneducated buyer. There's at least one other listing suggesting a new BW release BLNR.

I guess there'll always be people trying to make a quick buck but this is just someone taking major advantage.

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DYJ150 · 25 March 2019, 08:00 AM

A really easy way to tell is the crown between the swiss and made....

FreshPrince14 · 25 March 2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DYJ150

A really easy way to tell is the crown between the swiss and made....

Exactly... There's many tell tail signs about this listing... But my point being that to the uneducated buyer who just wants to have the latest and greatest thing...

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Clique · 25 March 2019, 08:07 AM

Obviously they are trying to ride the Baselworld hype, but the listing pretty clearly indicates that it is a 116710BLNR. The title of the listing says that it is a "Rolex GMT Master like Basel World Batman Ceramic Jubilee." The language concerning the "126710BLNR" appears to merely reference that that watch exists and that this watch is similar to that watch (because it is a 116710BLNR on a jubilee).

If the seller were really trying to pretend it was a 126710BLNR, they are doing a poor job of it (e.g., picture of warranty card that says "116710BLNR," listing the model number as "116710BLNR," saying in the description that "we present you an unworn ... 116710BLNR," listing the origination date as June 2017, etc).

lecorsaire · 25 March 2019, 08:13 AM

Remember folks, there are two jubilee bracelets!

1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with.
2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link!

Besides no one has a 2019 jubilee BLNR right now. Not even Roger Federer!

Likestheshiny · 25 March 2019, 08:16 AM

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1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with.
2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link!

DJ36's have also started coming on a bracelet with a full clasp, so it's a little harder to tell the difference now.

lecorsaire · 25 March 2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

DJ36's have also started coming on a bracelet with a full clasp, so it's a little harder to tell the difference now.

Yes, but these new 126234 Datejusts are still not on the market.

Also remember that the new Batman has the coronet between Swiss Made. There is no way around this.

Dsmith1974 · 25 March 2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Remember folks, there are two jubilee bracelets!

1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with.
2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link!

Besides no one has a 2019 jubilee BLNR right now. Not even Roger Federer!

I’m confused. SS DJ41 eg 126300 come with an Oysterclasp easy link Jubilee don’t they?

Which DJs come with a super jubilee, the PMs?

Dsmith1974 · 25 March 2019, 08:45 AM

The ad says it’s an 116710 from 2017 in the details.

lecorsaire · 25 March 2019, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dsmith1974

I’m confused. SS DJ41 eg 126300 come with an Oysterclasp easy link Jubilee don’t they?

Which DJs come with a super jubilee, the PMs?

You’re right. I forgot about the DJ41. Super jubilee is steel Datejust 36 116234. But I doubt the DJ41 jubilee fits the GMT. The DJ41 is a bigger watch and I’m sure the bracelet must be a mm or 2 wider.

But the DJ41 bracelet does not have the flip lock so again the only correct jubilee is the one sold with the steel BLRO.

lhawli · 25 March 2019, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dsmith1974

I’m confused. SS DJ41 eg 126300 come with an Oysterclasp easy link Jubilee don’t they?

Which DJs come with a super jubilee, the PMs?

The DJ36 has the SJ. The DJ41 is actually 21mm so will not fit a GMT, Sub or DayC.

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Duende01 · 25 March 2019, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Yes, but these new 126234 Datejusts are still not on the market.

Also remember that the new Batman has the coronet between Swiss Made. There is no way around this.

Yes they are. Was just at an AD today looking at DJ36 for my wife and they had the new reference with the clasp instead of the SJ bracelet. Didn’t buy as my wife wants Pink and that one is the previous reference.

Switch · 25 March 2019, 09:27 AM

The only BLNR madness is the number of new threads popping talking about the BLNR.

lecorsaire · 25 March 2019, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Duende01

Yes they are. Was just at an AD today looking at DJ36 for my wife and they had the new reference with the clasp instead of the SJ bracelet. Didn’t buy as my wife wants Pink and that one is the previous reference.

Are you 100% sure? I have no idea how they have the new reference just days after Baselworld when most of the new releases arrive in the summer.

The 126233 two tone DJ36 does have the new clasp because it came out last year. I don’t see how they could already have the new steel DJ36.

Duende01 · 25 March 2019, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Are you 100% sure? I have no idea how they have the new reference just days after Baselworld when most of the new releases arrive in the summer.

The 126233 two tone DJ36 does have the new clasp because it came out last year. I don’t see how they could already have the new steel DJ36.

100% sure and only because I rather have the SJ and these did not have it. He even took the catalog out and showed us the dial options available and they were all 2019 options.

Michigan_State · 25 March 2019, 09:41 AM

I read it and the seller is stating that it corresponds to (German: entspricht) the latest release, not that it IS the latest version. Still not nice at all.

uhren917 · 25 March 2019, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Remember folks, there are two jubilee bracelets!

1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with.
2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link!

Besides no one has a 2019 jubilee BLNR right now. Not even Roger Federer!

His wife has one.

zjd168 · 25 March 2019, 10:21 AM

crazy indeed, doesn't seem like the seller includes the oyster bracelet at this price

Jackumi · 25 March 2019, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Remember folks, there are two jubilee bracelets!

1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with.
2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link!

Besides no one has a 2019 jubilee BLNR right now. Not even Roger Federer!

I was of the understanding that from Baselworld 2018 all 36mm DJ Jubilee bracelets now have external clasps. The Super Jubilee with the hidden clasps have been discontinued.

hbryant130 · 25 March 2019, 11:48 AM

The end links are not like the current SS GMT Master II (BLRO or BLNR)

25 March 2019, 07:48 AM	#1
FreshPrince14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: TRF Watch: 16710 & 6694 Posts: 791	BLNR Madness Just noticed this listing on Chrono24 and thought it may be of some interest... https://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/gm...US&SETCURR=EUR I don't have much German but the listing appears to say "New is this 126710BLNR featured at Basel World this week. New". Someone who can speak German may provide a better translation but clearly the seller (who is a trusted seller since 2016) is trying to pass this off as being the newest release BLNR. I'm assuming the jubilee is simply taken from a different watch. Under "Year" it clearly states 06-2017 so obviously this doesn't line up with it being featured at BW this week. As well as this, under "Caliber" the movement is listed as "Automatic" and doesn't mention the new 3285 movement anywhere. All of this being advertised for €17,950. So clearly the seller trying to pull the wool over the eyes of an uneducated buyer. There's at least one other listing suggesting a new BW release BLNR. I guess there'll always be people trying to make a quick buck but this is just someone taking major advantage. Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

25 March 2019, 08:13 AM	#5
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	Remember folks, there are two jubilee bracelets! 1. The jubilee with concealed clasp that the Datejusts came with. 2. The new BLRO/BLNR jubilee with Oysterclasp and easy link! Besides no one has a 2019 jubilee BLNR right now. Not even Roger Federer! __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

25 March 2019, 09:41 AM	#16
Michigan_State "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Vince Location: Michigan Posts: 547	I read it and the seller is stating that it corresponds to (German: entspricht) the latest release, not that it IS the latest version. Still not nice at all. __________________ Have a nice day!

25 March 2019, 08:00 AM	#2
DYJ150 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: London Posts: 80	A really easy way to tell is the crown between the swiss and made....

25 March 2019, 08:07 AM	#4
Clique "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Posts: 21	Obviously they are trying to ride the Baselworld hype, but the listing pretty clearly indicates that it is a 116710BLNR. The title of the listing says that it is a "Rolex GMT Master like Basel World Batman Ceramic Jubilee." The language concerning the "126710BLNR" appears to merely reference that that watch exists and that this watch is similar to that watch (because it is a 116710BLNR on a jubilee). If the seller were really trying to pretend it was a 126710BLNR, they are doing a poor job of it (e.g., picture of warranty card that says "116710BLNR," listing the model number as "116710BLNR," saying in the description that "we present you an unworn ... 116710BLNR," listing the origination date as June 2017, etc).

25 March 2019, 08:45 AM	#9
Dsmith1974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Duncan Location: London Watch: DD 40 Posts: 2,262	The ad says it’s an 116710 from 2017 in the details.

25 March 2019, 09:27 AM	#13
Switch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Australia Watch: BLNR Posts: 115	The only BLNR madness is the number of new threads popping talking about the BLNR.

25 March 2019, 10:21 AM	#18
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	crazy indeed, doesn't seem like the seller includes the oyster bracelet at this price

25 March 2019, 11:48 AM	#20
hbryant130 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: down by the river Posts: 53	The end links are not like the current SS GMT Master II (BLRO or BLNR)

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