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vitix · 1 December 2018, 05:51 AM

Hello, I have been searching locally for this timepiece, I have someone that came to my office and had this one on a very reasonable price, supposedly with box and papers,
The piece looks good but I’m no expert and don’t want to be fooled
The only thing I don’t see very well is the lume, i thought it was more blue-ish

Let me know!

Thanks

scoot4nat · 1 December 2018, 07:55 AM

Don’t know if I like the font on the 3 and the shape of the end link. Need better photos.

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vitix · 1 December 2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scoot4nat

Don’t know if I like the font on the 3 and the shape of the end link. Need better photos.

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beshannon · 1 December 2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vitix

I have someone that came to my office and had this one on a very reasonable price, supposedly with box and papers,

Who?

How convenient, one of the hottest watches today being sold for a "reasonable" price.

scoot4nat · 1 December 2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by vitix

Picture looks better but I’m no expert. Can’t see any obvious flaws.

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vitix · 1 December 2018, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scoot4nat

Picture looks better but I’m no expert. Can’t see any obvious flaws.

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I’m concern in the Lume

vitix · 1 December 2018, 08:19 AM

nch209 · 1 December 2018, 08:29 AM

From here it looks ok. When you say reasonable price, what does this mean? In line with market value, or a screaming deal?

What I am getting at, is I have passed on legit watches before because the price was too far south... the watch is one thing, but a shady seller is another. Is the paperwork in guys name? Local AD sell the piece? Ect. Newer watches can often times easily be traced to ensure they are legit and paid for...

vitix · 1 December 2018, 08:30 AM

Apparently this was purchased in Texas, I’m in DR
I have not seen box and papers yet

214270Explorer · 1 December 2018, 12:02 PM

Cheap price = could be stolen = you just never know.

Please be very careful !!!

GLADIATOR · 1 December 2018, 12:05 PM

Very Suspect
I think Fake
Act with extreme caution
Adam

freefly · 1 December 2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vitix

I’m concern in the Lume

Watch looks fine from here, and the lume color is normal.

That said, I would be suspicious of its origin if the price is significantly lower than market value.

vitix · 1 December 2018, 12:36 PM

Value is 8,560

vitix · 1 December 2018, 12:36 PM

GLADIATOR · 1 December 2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vitix

Value is 8,560

In my opinion, get it checked.
Your call.
A

vitix · 1 December 2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

In my opinion, get it checked.

Your call.

A

They charge a lot for that, imagine I had to pay money to check something to turn up to be fake

GLADIATOR · 1 December 2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vitix

They charge a lot for that, imagine I had to pay money to check something to turn up to be fake

Who charges? Not Rolex, and not any decent watch repair guy.
Post a photo of movement here and we will also confirm or deny for free.
Adam

vitix · 1 December 2018, 12:45 PM

If I had the tools to open the caseback, will not be having this conversation

GLADIATOR · 1 December 2018, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vitix

If I had the tools to open the caseback, will not be having this conversation

Take it to any decent watch repair person ask them to open, take photo of balance wheel area with watch hacked.
Also inside case back

Or go with freefly.
In my opinion watch is suspicious, and I would not buy it without further checks.
Its your call

Regards
A

shaunylw · 1 December 2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vitix

They charge a lot for that, imagine I had to pay money to check something to turn up to be fake

Then spend $8560, take it to a dealer and figure out its fake. Which one is cheaper?

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CorradoBrit · 1 December 2018, 01:03 PM

If its got box and papers I'd say its OK. Can you check provenance ie trace back to original owner?Shouldn't be difficult if current seller is 2nd owner. Nothing is immediately a red flag with the watch itself.

kirikenz · 1 December 2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shaunylw

Then spend $8560, take it to a dealer and figure out its fake. Which one is cheaper?

Certainly an appropriate time as ever to hedge your bet.

Spend maybe $100US and the watchmaker says it's fake. OP should be happy he didn't get conned out of $8k+. Alternatively, if the watchmaker says it's legit then OP gets to buy a BLNR at around $1500US below market value. Both of those result in a happy OP.

I don't know this watch very well, but it looks surprisingly good to me. The only thing that raised my eyebrow was one of the lume shots made it appear as though the blue portion of the bezel was overlapping the 8's interior. It doesn't appear in any of the other photos, so unless it's a different watch then it may just be shadow/reflection.

It's also possible it's either stolen or best case, the guy is trying to recoup what he bought it for a couple of years ago and isn't aware of market changes. I have a hard time believing that last scenario though...

smym18 · 2 December 2018, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kirikenz

It's also possible it's either stolen or best case, the guy is trying to recoup what he bought it for a couple of years ago and isn't aware of market changes. I have a hard time believing that last scenario though...

A lot of people are quick to assume watches are fake because of their prices, and understandably so, but not everyone lives on the internet and this forum. This guy could be thinking he's the one getting the better end of the deal by selling at almost retail.

ttnpb · 2 December 2018, 07:56 AM

Nothing looks suspect to me.

beshannon · 12 December 2018, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vitix

They charge a lot for that, imagine I had to pay money to check something to turn up to be fake

Better than the entire amount?

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Originally Posted by vitix

If I had the tools to open the caseback, will not be having this conversation

Because you know what to look for in a watch movement?

Good luck

skiahh · 12 December 2018, 02:59 AM

Looks exactly like mine.

Get a loup or magnifying glass or macro lens and find the crown etched into the crystal.

Then get the papers and compare the SN.

And then if you're still not sure, take it to a dealer or watchmaker and get a professional evaluation.

And trust that over any interwebz evaluation.

edweather · 12 December 2018, 03:55 AM

In the 11/30 5:19pm post, in the first pic, the LEC at 6 o'clock, looks visible. Didn't think it was supposed to be that visible to the naked eye, but maybe the photographer got lucky.

PRSWILL · 13 December 2018, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by edweather

In the 11/30 5:19pm post, in the first pic, the LEC at 6 o'clock, looks visible. Didn't think it was supposed to be that visible to the naked eye, but maybe the photographer got lucky.

Agree- I am betting this is a high-quality fake ( if you want to call it that).

Can you hear the movement when you shake it near your ear? If you can hear the winding wheel- it's a fake.

dhknola · 13 December 2018, 05:40 AM

My guess is high-quality fake because of the serial number spacing from 8-6 p.m.; just does not look perfect the random serial plus incised crown seem to be VERY HARD for fakers to get just right.

Comex5514_ · 13 December 2018, 07:23 AM

IMO watch looks as it should look. Now, yes it could be fake with lots of gen parts HOWEVER before we speculate all possible scenarios I want to see the paper work of this watch. Once you have them make sure you check guarantee card under UV light for water marks. Or just simply go to a watch maker and he will do it all for you. I would choose 2nd option all day long.

Up to you

1 December 2018, 05:51 AM	#1
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	Gmt bnlr Hello, I have been searching locally for this timepiece, I have someone that came to my office and had this one on a very reasonable price, supposedly with box and papers, The piece looks good but I’m no expert and don’t want to be fooled The only thing I don’t see very well is the lume, i thought it was more blue-ish Let me know! Thanks __________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 08:19 AM	#7
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	__________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 08:29 AM	#8
nch209 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Nathan Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,775	From here it looks ok. When you say reasonable price, what does this mean? In line with market value, or a screaming deal? What I am getting at, is I have passed on legit watches before because the price was too far south... the watch is one thing, but a shady seller is another. Is the paperwork in guys name? Local AD sell the piece? Ect. Newer watches can often times easily be traced to ensure they are legit and paid for... __________________ nch209

1 December 2018, 08:30 AM	#9
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	Apparently this was purchased in Texas, I’m in DR I have not seen box and papers yet __________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 12:02 PM	#10
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	Cheap price = could be stolen = you just never know. Please be very careful !!! __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

1 December 2018, 07:55 AM	#2
scoot4nat "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Glasgow Posts: 167	Don’t know if I like the font on the 3 and the shape of the end link. Need better photos. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 December 2018, 12:05 PM	#11
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Very Suspect I think Fake Act with extreme caution Adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

1 December 2018, 12:36 PM	#13
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	Value is 8,560 __________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 12:36 PM	#14
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	Gmt bnlr __________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 12:45 PM	#18
vitix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Victor Location: Santo Domingo Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 2,030	If I had the tools to open the caseback, will not be having this conversation __________________ ViTiX - Instagram: vitix11 Twitter: @vitix Rolex Submariner Date 16610 Z series / DSSD / GMT MII BNLR / Daytona 116500LN Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 / Formula 1 Orange dial Panerai Luminor Power Reserve / PAM49

1 December 2018, 01:03 PM	#21
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	If its got box and papers I'd say its OK. Can you check provenance ie trace back to original owner?Shouldn't be difficult if current seller is 2nd owner. Nothing is immediately a red flag with the watch itself.

2 December 2018, 07:56 AM	#24
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	Nothing looks suspect to me.

12 December 2018, 02:59 AM	#26
skiahh "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: WA Watch: Batman, X-33 Posts: 172	Looks exactly like mine. Get a loup or magnifying glass or macro lens and find the crown etched into the crystal. Then get the papers and compare the SN. And then if you're still not sure, take it to a dealer or watchmaker and get a professional evaluation. And trust that over any interwebz evaluation.

12 December 2018, 03:55 AM	#27
edweather "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: Georgia, USA Watch: Casio Illuminator Posts: 650	In the 11/30 5:19pm post, in the first pic, the LEC at 6 o'clock, looks visible. Didn't think it was supposed to be that visible to the naked eye, but maybe the photographer got lucky. __________________ An expert under pressure is a drip.

13 December 2018, 05:40 AM	#29
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,153	My guess is high-quality fake because of the serial number spacing from 8-6 p.m.; just does not look perfect the random serial plus incised crown seem to be VERY HARD for fakers to get just right.

13 December 2018, 07:23 AM	#30
Comex5514_ Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: UK Watch: Military Posts: 333	IMO watch looks as it should look. Now, yes it could be fake with lots of gen parts HOWEVER before we speculate all possible scenarios I want to see the paper work of this watch. Once you have them make sure you check guarantee card under UV light for water marks. Or just simply go to a watch maker and he will do it all for you. I would choose 2nd option all day long. Up to you

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