the Coronavirus outbreak thread

[superdog]

Originally Posted by scarlet knight

Wonder if there is or will be a coherent plan to respond to the virus? Seems like everything is made up on the fly. I’m not being political, it seems to be the case from country to country. Certainly, there is no coordinated global procedure. The virus knows no borders. I think it would be good to formulate a plan of attack.

Agree my friend. But I doubt it.

The taking heads are all too busy playing their games.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by dimag333

We will get mandatory real lockdown it looks like for Tri state for 2 weeks, but it’s all good, whatever gets us through the fastest is best, our schools are week to week after 4/20 they said

steve

News just came out stating it was not happening.

My concern if it does, is that it won’t do enough. Yes, lockdown for two weeks or even a month to cut this off at the head. I’d be game for it. Absolutely.

But the facts appear to show it won’t stop anything at all. If even a handful of people have it. If even 1 person had it, it’s game on all over again.

That to me is the real scary part.

[dimag333]

Originally Posted by superdog

News just came out stating it was not happening.

My concern if it does, is that it won’t do enough. Yes, lockdown for two weeks or even a month to cut this off at the head. I’d be game for it.

But the facts appear to show it don’t stop anything at all. If even a handful of people have it. If even 1 person had it, it’s game on all over again.

That to me is the real scary part.

Yeah I popped on news12 via Apple TV so don’t know if it wasn’t live but they were pushing it, also showing those idiots in Newark

steve

[superdog]

Originally Posted by dimag333

Yeah I popped on news12 via Apple TV so don’t know if it wasn’t live but they were pushing it, also showing those idiots in Newark

steve

I’m afraid to ask. What’s happening in Newark?

[dimag333]

Originally Posted by superdog

I’m afraid to ask. What’s happening in Newark?

800 police warnings today to go inside and stay away from each other, it looked like spring break in Florida

steve

[superdog]

Originally Posted by dimag333

800 police warnings today to go inside and stay away from each other, it looked like spring break in Florida

steve

Idiots.

I just read about a party in Ewing county. 47 people in a 550 sq ft apartment.

Shocking at how stupid people are.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by superdog

Idiots.

I just read about a party in Ewing county. 47 people in a 550 sq ft apartment.

Shocking at how stupid people are.

Wow!!!!
Even without the social distancing still...

[dimag333]

They had a f”ing Dj!

steve

[superdog]

Originally Posted by dimag333

They had a f”ing Dj!

steve

Now they have big fines.

Good. Dopes.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by 77T

Well Godspeed the Wuhan citizenry if loosening their restrictions proves unwise. But if loosening works with social distancing and increased hygiene then we all will learn something from their decision.

On restrictions here, my State leadership decided against it and deferred to Counties/Cities. My County decided yesterday to lockdown. But failed to give fair warning, it took place at Midnight that very day.

Reasonable exceptions and a small thing for me, but major immediate layoffs for all businesses that were “non-essential”. They are the ones who should be first in line for any business stimulus. I have been overnighting cash to family members who were caught completely off guard. Used Adult Signature Required due to amounts.

BTW, anyone shipping a watch via USPS, I learned they suspended collecting signatures in my area. On Registered and other signature required shipments, they knock on the door and are sure an adult takes the package but no signing the mobile device carriers use.

I don’t know UPS or Fedex guidelines but a good question for their customer care dept. before shipping.


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Did you mean you transferred funds to their account?

Retailers in Australia are already refusing possible contaminated cash as payment (scan cards only) and some are not even allowing customers to approach the staff as there is a barrier line meters from the counter top.

Some pharmacies now have tables outside their premises where customers can submit prescriptions and they are only allowing access to one customer at a time to purchase items inside the shop.

It must be difficult in some countries because of the population numbers but we know that distance and isolation is paramount.

[Dawg2]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

Thought I’d share this article and update ...

Don’t know if anyone has seen this yet.



https://www.teaparty247.org/dr-fauci...s-a-must-read/

Maybe take a look here and see if the death rate is being correctly tallied....

http://shanghaiist.com/2020/03/27/ur...-chinas-tally/

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[Dawg2]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.

I agree.

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[Brenngun]

Originally Posted by huncho

my dad passed away today due to pneumonia caused by the virus. he was on a ventilator for 3 days and everything was looking a lot better then his heart just stopped. its really no joke, stay safe everyone.

58 years old and completely healthy, unbelievable

So very sorry to hear of your loss.

[Boothroyd]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.

Joeychitwood, right there with you. People believe what they believe. Will end my commentary with that.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by huncho

my dad passed away today due to pneumonia caused by the virus. he was on a ventilator for 3 days and everything was looking a lot better then his heart just stopped. its really no joke, stay safe everyone.

58 years old and completely healthy, unbelievable

Very sorry to hear that. Can’t imagine your pain at this time, hope you can stay strong. Condolences to you and your family.


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[Brenngun]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

The numbers, mortality rates, recovery rates and all other parameters can be debated endlessly. However, right now in major state-of-the-art Emergency Departments, ICUs and academic hospitals, patients are overflowing on cots in the halls. Refrigerated trucks are being procured for body storage. And doctors and nurses are getting sick and dying of the disease they are so courageously battling. Name another time in modern medicine in the world when this has happened? Mortality rates be damned, this is an absolute disaster of proportions not seen in decades.

This!!

[sgwatchguy]

Mortality rates being cited based on purely China data need to be relooked at.


http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Wuhan...mEH2NcrxWarRAc


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[BBL]

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From ER MD in New Orleans, "Clinical Pearls Covid 19 for ER practitioners"

Notes about his care of patients:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

[Kowaco]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

I can appreciate your zealousness but here’s
today’s stats . Pretty much in line with what
has already been assessed from even a month
ago . Still in the 1 to 2 % percentile death rate .
While no deaths are acceptable it’s similar to
a seasonal influenza, per reports .

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Looks like the numbers are getting better


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[77T]

Originally Posted by BBL

From ER MD in New Orleans, "Clinical Pearls Covid 19 for ER practitioners"

Notes about his care of patients:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

That is one of the most interesting narratives I’ve read - scary, but interesting - thanks for posting it.


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[BBL]

Originally Posted by 77T

That is one of the most interesting narratives I’ve read - scary, but interesting - thanks for posting it.


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Yup. Paul.....
Waiting for Joey....
Article is riveting. My heart goes out to front line medical heroes sacrificing themselves to heal the afflicted. So stressful. And the pit in the stomach, thinking of all the incredible hard work, creative thinking at the blink of an eye, determination to treat the sick no matter the existing barriers, electing not to eat or drink during the shift, and more - all this is impossible to fathom.
I am so thankful I am retired. At this stage of my life, I wouldn't be able to keep up if went back to work now.

[subtona]

Life vs the Economy.

[Star Ferry]

Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by BBL

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From ER MD in New Orleans, "Clinical Pearls Covid 19 for ER practitioners"

Notes about his care of patients:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

Did I read this correct that over 80% of patients that require/go on a ventilator, die?


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[superdog]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority

So glad you are feeling better.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.



As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority

Glad you are over the hump symptom-wise. The Azithromycin May have staved off bacterium that could have led to pneumonia.

The ER doc in NOLA mentioned it’s use too.


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[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by superdog

So glad you are feeling better.

thanks Seth. Given that someone here lost a father, I know I lucked out compared to many, but hopefully my posts prepared other members for what a mild/moderate case could be like

I've never had chest pain or pneumonia before, so it's all pretty new to me and I assume it's caused by this new virus

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by BBL

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From ER MD in New Orleans, "Clinical Pearls Covid 19 for ER practitioners"

Notes about his care of patients:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

Very interesting read, thanks for sharing. Albeit scary I much rather know the facts as more gets discovered about this virus.

I'm also very interested to read Joey's thoughts on this or other things he's heard recently.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by superdog

Fauci is also saying he believes that those that have had it and recovered, are immune. He admits not enough evidence just yet. But he stated emphatically that this is his belief based on what he has seen.

Well, we already had few cases here in Italy that former patients previously declared free of virus became positive again after a few weeks, so...

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[swatty]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Lungs feel fine now. Just a low grade fever. I'm not sure if it was the passage of time or whether azithromycin killed it off. I know "antibiotics don't kill viruses" but it feels like they just did.

As for whether it's a disaster or not, do the numbers tell the whole story? If someone shows up at a hospital and is dying, why would testing them for an incurable virus be a priority

Great news , hope you’re 100 % soon