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Old 22 July 2019, 04:04 AM   #31
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Jumbo is great but I too became tired of dealing with the crown and movement. If youíre a patient man then jumbo. If not then sub lol
Is it just the setting of the date or is the movement quirky in other ways?

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Between the two I would go for the Smurf but we all need an AP in our lives.
It would be my only AP

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15202 for size, proportions, history etc. really iconic piece and as said not for every day

Interesting, thanks!

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Old 22 July 2019, 04:09 AM   #32
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15202 for size, proportions, history etc. really iconic piece and as said not for every day


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Depends on others in your collection, if you have other CE Rolexes then I'd favour the AP.
So this would make 9 in the collection, which I think is pretty diverse with regard to dial colors and types. Kind of want to cap it there, been sending things in and out for a while.

For dress watches, I have:
Patek 3940g (white dial)
Jlc tt1931 reverso (black dial)
Laurent Ferrier travel time (blue dial)

For manual wind chronos, I have:
Patek 5070g (white dial)
Vintage speedmaster (black dial)
Patek 5170p (blue dial)

For sports watches, I have:
116500 (white dial)
16710 Pepsi (black dial)
Looking for a blue dial
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Old 22 July 2019, 04:12 AM   #33
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Royal Oak is a scratch magnet compared to the Rolex.


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It is, compared to the 904L steel.
but I am comparing to the Sub white gold as per OP subject. Gold is softer than stainless steel, it will scratch much easier.


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Scratches donít bother me too much, but this has definitely been brought up as a concern by many
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Old 22 July 2019, 04:13 AM   #34
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Imho the 5711 would be my choice by far over the 15202.

*The lower WR of the AP (no screw down crown)
*bezel damage pain (not an issue if you are OK with rich patina after a short period of ownership),
*date setting function

are the top three things I would consider.

If you havenít seen it, here is a comparison when I owned them, prior to the current market insanity


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=643387

Ps for what itís worth, I am at this moment strongly considering (very likely) a 116619 purchase at this moment.
Thanks Gus...I actually re-read your post yesterday as I was searching the forum. Very valuable!
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Old 22 July 2019, 04:14 AM   #35
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One compromise is just not worrying about setting the date on the Jumbo, lol. I think the Fratello Watches guy does that.

Me, I set it, and donít find it too much trouble, but itís close. :-/ The AP winding tool helps quite a bit.



Iíve always loved the Smurf, except for the inelegant slab side of the maxi case (one of the reasons I let my BLNR go). Love the unique colorway and the stealth wealth, along with the weight and the subtle difference in appearance of WG vs SS.

Mr Gray, any chance you could post a shot of your Smurf on your 6.5Ē wrist?
My ocd probably would not allow me to not set the date
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Old 22 July 2019, 05:20 AM   #36
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So this would make 9 in the collection, which I think is pretty diverse with regard to dial colors and types. Kind of want to cap it there, been sending things in and out for a while.

For dress watches, I have:
Patek 3940g (white dial)
Jlc tt1931 reverso (black dial)
Laurent Ferrier travel time (blue dial)

For manual wind chronos, I have:
Patek 5070g (white dial)
Vintage speedmaster (black dial)
Patek 5170p (blue dial)

For sports watches, I have:
116500 (white dial)
16710 Pepsi (black dial)
Looking for a blue dial
Think the 202 would fit in perfectly.
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Old 22 July 2019, 05:22 AM   #37
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It is setting the date as well as time. The crown is small and cumbersome to use. You will gain new appreciation for the triplock after using it.

I wouldn't let it stop you from buying one. Just need to go in eyes open.
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Old 22 July 2019, 06:45 AM   #39
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15202 by a mile.

I wish I had one, had to settle for the 15400.


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Both is the answer but Iíd rather have the Smurf first. My opinion better all arounder thereís just something about that unique blue...donít think youíll see many in the wild.


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