How important is a serial tag??

[khazard]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

According to the person who posted this, it was a joke. They clearly stated this in the next line of their post.

That post was edited after a few of the “you can’t be serious” responses. That next line likely wasn’t included in the initial response that other users were responding to.

[Bozack90]

its funny how this stuff changes and matters to some people and not others...

I remember back in the day it was having both tags, the bezel protector, inner and outer boxes, and keeping the hologram on along with the latest version of the serial number you could find....

thankfully rolex moved away from trackable serial numbers, the hologram, and now dealers are taking stickers off at point of sale which hopefully gets people less focused on this stuff. I'd even be good with them just giving folks the green box, watch, manual and be done with it....though a part of me does like the little chronometer hangtag

I have much of it for the watches I have but beyond when I purchased them I have never gone back and looked at it

It matters if you're selling or maybe someday for whoever gets it and an episode of antiques roadshow....

[t65tampa]

I like to wear mine on a chain around my neck.

[bigdavep]

I got the serial tag but not a bezel protector with my DSSD. For some reason i'd have rather had the bezel protector

[donut]

Originally Posted by jrs146

I still consider it a complete set. It’s a bonus to have but not a must.

This.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Stingerstingray

If a Rolex (a newer model) comes with the original green Rolex box, a cardboard box, booklets, a warranty card, and a green hangtag but not a serial tag, is it still considered a complete set?

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It's important. You look like an idiot wearing a stickered watch around without the accompanying serial tag and bezel protector

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

The watch and warranty papers are the most important! Everything else is replaceable!

How is an individual serial tag replaceable?? They make 1 per watch.....

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by t65tampa

I like to wear mine on a chain around my neck.

Me to so that they can see i can afford a couple instead of just one..
I have gold teeth to and a iced out dreadlock

[Seibei]

I don't consider it a full set if the serial tag is missing. I find it ridiculous that a dealer would withhold this tag. There is no good reason for them to keep it. The only reason I can think of, and it is not a good one, is that they are too lazy to keep proper records of their sales and they use the tags as a reference when they make some kind of sales summary. I know, stupid and lazy, but I can't see any other reason.

If I am buying a used watch, getting the full set is a big deal to me, and yes, I consider the serial tag to be an important part of the full set, much more important than other generic parts of the set that can easily be replaced. The serial tag is unique to the watch, booklets, boxes and the other tag are not.

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by khazard

That post was edited after a few of the “you can’t be serious” responses. That next line likely wasn’t included in the initial response that other users were responding to.

Thank you. That’s exactly correct. Integrity is in short supply these days

[42itus]

Originally Posted by Seibei

I don't consider it a full set if the serial tag is missing. I find it ridiculous that a dealer would withhold this tag. There is no good reason for them to keep it. The only reason I can think of, and it is not a good one, is that they are too lazy to keep proper records of their sales and they use the tags as a reference when they make some kind of sales summary. I know, stupid and lazy, but I can't see any other reason.

If I am buying a used watch, getting the full set is a big deal to me, and yes, I consider the serial tag to be an important part of the full set, much more important than other generic parts of the set that can easily be replaced. The serial tag is unique to the watch, booklets, boxes and the other tag are not.

I've had one AD tell me that it's their policy to withhold the serial tag along with the bezel protector. I've had a different AD include everything but the serial tag, and when I asked him about it he said "you want this? I was going to throw it away for you".

I'm curious, if you were interested in purchasing a pre-owned watch that didn't include this tag, would you still purchase it or would you pass on it because it didn't have the tag? Would you pay more for one with a tag?

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by 42itus

I'm curious, if you were interested in purchasing a pre-owned watch that didn't include this tag, would you still purchase it or would you pass on it because it didn't have the tag? Would you pay more for one with a tag?

If I had the choice I would always pick one with the tag, everything else being equal.

Would I pass if it did not have the tag? It would depend on how much I wanted that particular watch, I can see myself buying a watch with no box and papers at all if that particular watch really means something to me.

Yes, I would 100% pay more for one with the tag.

How would I have felt if my dealer had withheld any part of the full set when he sold me my watch? Annoyed and insulted.

This so called "policy" of withholding bits and pieces is arbitrary and vexing. You would think they are doing this just to be a pain in the rear end, because it is no skin of their back to hand these things over.

[Nikrnic]

My AD (USA) gives all tags, bezel cover etc. He'll pull a few stickers off when sizing. He's never been told to withhold anything from Rolex. I dont really care but I'm certain it's the individual ADs decision.

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[42itus]

Originally Posted by Seibei

If I had the choice I would always pick one with the tag, everything else being equal.

Would I pass if it did not have the tag? It would depend on how much I wanted that particular watch, I can see myself buying a watch with no box and papers at all if that particular watch really means something to me.

Yes, I would 100% pay more for one with the tag.

How would I have felt if my dealer had withheld any part of the full set when he sold me my watch? Annoyed and insulted.

This so called "policy" of withholding bits and pieces is arbitrary and vexing. You would think they are doing this just to be a pain in the rear end, because it is no skin of their back to hand these things over.

I don't get the logic either. Barron and Leeds are the ones that withheld the tag, and for a brief moment I almost said screw it and was going to cancel the sale. It was a Bluesy so not a high demand item, and they had already printed my name on the warranty, ran my card, and peeled the stickers. So if I insisted on the tag and bezel protector it would have become an issue I think. But they always validate my parking in Waikiki and they're super cool so I decided not to make a stink of it. And I would think if I made them cancel the sale they would never call me again.

But Ben Bridge will give me watches fully stickered and even offer the coffin.

So yeah, not sure why some dealers insist on this nonsense and others could care less.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Seibei

I don't consider it a full set if the serial tag is missing. I find it ridiculous that a dealer would withhold this tag. There is no good reason for them to keep it. The only reason I can think of, and it is not a good one, is that they are too lazy to keep proper records of their sales and they use the tags as a reference when they make some kind of sales summary. I know, stupid and lazy, but I can't see any other reason.

If I am buying a used watch, getting the full set is a big deal to me, and yes, I consider the serial tag to be an important part of the full set, much more important than other generic parts of the set that can easily be replaced. The serial tag is unique to the watch, booklets, boxes and the other tag are not.

its a slippery slope as there will always be just one more item that needs to be included... bezel protectors, shipping coffins etc.

IMO everything that is intended to be presented with the watch is a full set. Not bits and bobs that are more for the AD or shipping

if it was for the customer i would think it would look nicer... like the green hang tag.

the easiest parallel is people wanting cardboard shipping boxes and the plastic bag it came it from Patek. Patek put a stop to that probably for many reasons the most obvious being the presentation box is how its supposed to be presented to the customer who bought it.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by Stingerstingray

If a Rolex (a newer model) comes with the original green Rolex box, a cardboard box, booklets, a warranty card, and a green hangtag but not a serial tag, is it still considered a complete set?

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Yes that is a full set. The AD usually keeps the serial tag, but if they leave it in then I guess it is some sort of bonus, although I have no idea what use it has after you take possession.

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by Solo118

Yes that is a full set. The AD usually keeps the serial tag, but if they leave it in then I guess it is some sort of bonus, although I have no idea what use it has after you take possession.

It is useful in the sense that it makes it easier to sell the watch should you at some point wish to do so. That is logical. Dealers keeping the tags so that they can throw them away later is not logical. It is downright weird.

[nick800]

I’ve bought 4 watches at USA AD’s in 2019 and got both hang tags, bezel protector, and shipping coffin in all cases without asking.

[IsaakZ]

Originally Posted by torrente

I asked for that tag to my AD and they told me that they keep it.

Same happened with me few weeks ago

[IsaakZ]

Originally Posted by stylinleems

Some ADs keep it and staple it to the receipt for their records (this is what one AD does) When I purchased my 500LN they wanted to do this but I requested it and they gave it. Other ADs just throw it out when you leave the store along with the stickers and white cardboard box.

One funny thing is that some ADs now, are taking pictures of the watch in the box with the stickers removed sitting next to it along with the warranty card named/dated (possibly to show or have a record that they followed Rolex protocol)

Forgot they also photocopied the warranty card and the receipt

[PepsiBezel]

One scenario where the hang tag is important are some of Pepsi 16710BLRO where the original point of sale was non-US AD.

US ADs had warranty paper designation of 16710A or B or N — with 16710B as the Pepsi. Non-US ADs didn’t use the A/B/N, but the serial number hang tag would list the model “16710BLRO.” Rolex can tell what a 16710 was “born” by looking up its serial number, nut the hang tag can be another piece of provenance when purchasing a 16710.

As others have noted, many ADs now keep them. For my 114060, the AD took the sticker off the hang tag, and put it in a sort of log book.

[Moemalass1981]

they took my BLRO price tag, COSC tag and Basel protect
it doesnt matter anyway
watch is NOT FOR SALE

[Jamie1111]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Have the Rolex crowd lost their sense of humour?

The tag is more important than the watch? It's clearly a joke, poking fun at someone obsessing over a little plastic tag.

Perhaps the Rolex shortage is causing withdrawal symptoms.

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[dori]

Tag isn’t important. Enjoy the watch

[padi56]

Originally Posted by dori

Tag isn’t important. Enjoy the watch

Have to agree the older plastic barcode is much like the newer small round bar code on side of case only of use in the real world at the Rolex factory its just keeps track to where ever that completed watch model is stored nothing more.And like most of the bits of plastic and watch stickers,bezel protectors etc no real use only to protect watch in transit, other bits except the green certification tag purely for Rolex and Rolex AD inventory.

[Bozack90]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

its a slippery slope as there will always be just one more item that needs to be included... bezel protectors, shipping coffins etc.

IMO everything that is intended to be presented with the watch is a full set. Not bits and bobs that are more for the AD or shipping

if it was for the customer i would think it would look nicer... like the green hang tag.

the easiest parallel is people wanting cardboard shipping boxes and the plastic bag it came it from Patek. Patek put a stop to that probably for many reasons the most obvious being the presentation box is how its supposed to be presented to the customer who bought it.

This....the shipping cover was a new one to me, and its interesting how people seem to care about it, then again I have never gotten nor asked for one so I am possibly biased, but I too would consider a "full set" to be that which was intended to be given to the customer, eg. manual, presentation box, warranty card, and watch.