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19 July 2018, 07:50 AM | #61 | |
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19 July 2018, 07:56 AM | #62 | |
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The person who buys it won't need to service it for years. Patek won't find out until then right? What is the mechanism via which they can find out earlier? Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
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19 July 2018, 08:09 AM | #63 |
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The AD would register the piece with Patek when filling the paper work. Patek would find out if the new owner register the watch with Patek.
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19 July 2018, 08:09 AM | #64 |
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As above - When the new owner registers it on their web site. I would always register any PP, new or used.
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19 July 2018, 08:12 AM | #65 | |
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Further, if the OP has decided that the Nautilus and probably Aquanauts in general are not for him, then not sure it matters to he "blacklisted". The vast majority of the other models are pretty easy to get... Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
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19 July 2018, 08:21 AM | #66 |
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I’m pretty sure if you had just paid well above MSRP for a BNIB/or very new 5711 you would register it with Patek. Registration checks it’s authenticity and gets you on the mailing list for magazines etc.
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19 July 2018, 08:22 AM | #67 |
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There is a chance but anyone that was able to get a 5711 blue has either:
1) Spent enough where the AD is ok taking the risk and wants to reward him. 2) Waited long enough 3) Both In all cases, unlikely they will find out, but if they do, good profit anyway |
19 July 2018, 08:27 AM | #68 | |
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If someone gets "blacklisted" by Patek he would not get application pieces such as 5131P, rare hand craft pieces etc but I don't think Patek can stop him obtaining another Nautilus/Aquanaut which are not application pieces. |
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19 July 2018, 08:31 AM | #69 |
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19 July 2018, 08:31 AM | #70 | |
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In addition, unless it is an application piece, Patek won't even know you are trying to get it. Of note too, it was actually not that hard to get a 5711 brand new from an authorized dealer a few short years ago (I know this with certainty!). Will premiums stay here? Who knows... More reason, why the OP would be silly to keep the watch out of fear of blacklisting unless he has a specific hard to get grail piece he wants. It would have to be an application piece for it to make sense to be worried and even then.... Further, he will get quite a bit of cash in profit to offset the small chance he has to go grey market and pay a premium for such a piece. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk |
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19 July 2018, 08:40 AM | #71 | |
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19 July 2018, 09:04 AM | #72 |
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So, all these fears of being blacklisted...
Does anyone here have direct experience with being blacklisted...or a friend being blacklisted...or anything beyond a dealer saying the same or hearsay? |
19 July 2018, 10:21 AM | #73 | |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekQml5NRs0 I can't tell whether this is fake news or not. Use your own judgment pls. |
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19 July 2018, 10:33 AM | #74 |
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My experience:
Amazing watch. Not perfect. Rotor noise not consistent from watch to watch. (My 5167 had it, my 5711 did Not.) Adjustment period needed for the cost of a SS sports watch. Clasp is what it is, stiff to operate but once fastened holds the watch securely. Power reserve and time keeping not great. In the end, I chose a submariner.
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19 July 2018, 12:27 PM | #75 |
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Spot on.
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20 July 2018, 06:32 AM | #76 | |
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20 July 2018, 09:19 AM | #77 |
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I think Royal Oak has the 5711 well and truly beat, however the 5712 would be my favourite of all. I’d recommend you give AP a try, their bracelets are amazing and the clasp mechanism is far better than Nautilus too.
At least you made money on it I guess. Use it to try something else. |
21 July 2018, 09:55 AM | #78 |
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I think todays high ownership costs to get a Nautilus raises expectations sometimes unrealistically. When I purchased my 5711 over 5 years ago the price was fair and I enjoy the watch today as a daily beater. The 5711 is the quintessential sports watch. It's lack of complication provides for a thin case which sits on the wrist like no other IMO. Rotor noise is a reminder of the mechanical marvel on display seen through the exhibition case back.
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21 July 2018, 11:55 AM | #79 | |
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Actually, the AD can also get into trouble with Patek as they have to vouch for the client when making such applications, which is why they carefully screen potential buyers. Yeah... generally speaking, Patek dislike flippers.
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21 July 2018, 12:31 PM | #80 |
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Is it only application pieces that we know this type of tracking occurs?
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21 July 2018, 02:18 PM | #81 |
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Sad to hear you were disappointed. I’m less than a year wait away for my white 5711 and I really hope this doesn’t happen to me.
I had a chance to buy a 15202 several years ago and passed because I thought it felt too flimsy. I ended up with a black 15400 that I really like. I’ve tried on a 5167 and really loved it but passed on it several times. I just couldn’t spend almost 20k on a rubber strapped watch. I regret that decision sometimes though as it was so comfortable. Thanks for your honest opinion. There is lots of praise on this forum mostly, so its good to hear people be honest about their dislike of a popular model. |
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21 July 2018, 09:24 PM | #84 |
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Patek UK track and vet customers for the supply of a lot of pieces - you would be surprised. However they are also very keen to reward people with a true passion for their pieces so an application piece is not out of the question even for a first time customer - it might just take a while! 😉
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21 July 2018, 10:17 PM | #85 | |
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Wonder if it will propogate to the US soon |
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21 July 2018, 11:47 PM | #87 | |
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I really adore the white 5711 and have felt this way for a long time. I liked the Aquanaut, I love the Nautilus. |
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22 July 2018, 12:07 AM | #88 | |
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I adorded the 5711 blue dial, but moved on after super low odds of being able to score one at list price from an AD. Also, the price increase put a sour taste in my mouth. And couldn’t see spending almost $30k for a 3 handed SS sports watch. I recently acquired an AP RO 15450 blue dial as an alternative and love it. Absolutely no regrets!
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22 July 2018, 12:14 AM | #89 |
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I have coveted the 5711 for years, last month I stumped up the £££ and bought one at its current inflated price figuring there will be others willing to pay over the odds so I should be able to get my money back if needs be. Had the watch for little under a month wore it, enjoyed it but ultimately kept going back to my Rolex watches as I found it worrying to have such a ridiculously expensive watch on my wrist. Ended up striking a deal with a fellow Patek owner with a 2009 5167 which felt more me on the wrist so after a brief negotiation I think we were both ultimately happy.
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