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UmichNJ · 20 July 2018, 11:47 AM

I’m having real difficulty deciding on my next Patek. My AD has indicated that I could have either a 5524 or a 5205 blue dial this year. I am 38, so I prefer something that can be worn casually. My existing collection includes mostly Rolex sport models as well as the following:

5522
5726 white dial
5296 sector dial
5146 ivory dial
5164

Thanks.

thomaspp · 20 July 2018, 11:51 AM

Anything but the 5205 is my vote. 5524 is great looking. Why not 5711, 5712, 5131!?

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goog53 · 20 July 2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Anything but the 5205 is my vote. 5524 is great looking. Why not 5711, 5712, 5131!?
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I like these 3 options

UmichNJ · 20 July 2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Anything but the 5205 is my vote. 5524 is great looking. Why not 5711, 5712, 5131!?

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I’m waiting for the 5711 and hope my number comes up in the next 18 months.

JorgeCCW · 20 July 2018, 12:09 PM

Neither , I would shot for 5070 or a Worldtimer

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Ichiran · 20 July 2018, 12:30 PM

Since you want casual and are already on the list for a 5711 (which was what I will recommend if you have not followed up with another post), what about a 5968? You will also have the honor of the first ever incoming in this forum

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uniqueMR · 20 July 2018, 01:48 PM

I will vote for: 5205.
Plus its 2018 release and wear 40mm compare to 42mm (5524).

BTW you have a very nice collection of Pateks

lapince · 20 July 2018, 02:26 PM

No contest, 5524 is much nicer as a casual watch, if you want a casual one, so pretty obvious which to choose IMHO

GB-man · 20 July 2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Why not 5131!?

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Pricey though.

Unless you dom007 the boss whose reading :)

Sonzy · 20 July 2018, 05:37 PM

I’ll vote for the 5205, it looks different in your current collection. I’ll also go for customized nice straps which will add to it another sporty look. Classical/sporty combination sometimes gives a better looks than each style alone.

Helmi · 20 July 2018, 06:56 PM

IMHO the 5524 is very similar to the 5522. I wouldn't like to have both. I was about to recommend 5711 RG as it will be very different to your current collection but as you are waiting for the 5711, why not consider the 5712 RG?

AK797 · 20 July 2018, 09:55 PM

I like that you don't have many of the usual suspects so I say stay pure and get the 5205 blue.

jon_jon · 21 July 2018, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by UmichNJ

I’m having real difficulty deciding on my next Patek. My AD has indicated that I could have either a 5524 or a 5205 blue dial this year. I am 38, so I prefer something that can be worn casually. My existing collection includes mostly Rolex sport models as well as the following:

5522
5726 white dial
5296 sector dial
5146 ivory dial
5164

Thanks.

Some people like several of the same type of watches and others like a range of different watches. If you get the 5205, it would be your 3rd AC. The 5524 would be your second pilots watch and second travel time.

You may consider adding a PC, chrono or WT, but only if you like a diverse range of watches.

tyler1980 · 21 July 2018, 02:42 AM

With the 5522 already I would get neither... and go 5990. I love the 5524 too so if you want two pilots go for that

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RussW · 21 July 2018, 05:17 AM

I don’t really get it - are you getting something because your AD said you can, or were you waiting for those 2 watches anyway?

Of the 2 I’d get the 5524.

tyler1980 · 21 July 2018, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

I don’t really get it - are you getting something because your AD said you can, or were you waiting for those 2 watches anyway?

Of the 2 I’d get the 5524.

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

tng11 · 21 July 2018, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

I don’t really get it - are you getting something because your AD said you can, or were you waiting for those 2 watches anyway?

Of the 2 I’d get the 5524.

People are buying because of FOMO. I was doing that with SS Rolex and it didn't pan out. I've now been a lot more calculated in my purchases and have been happier for it!

With Patek it's even crazier as we are talking very serious amounts of money!

UmichNJ · 21 July 2018, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

I don’t really get it - are you getting something because your AD said you can, or were you waiting for those 2 watches anyway?

Of the 2 I’d get the 5524.

I have been interested in the 5524 for some time (which I thought might be allayed by the 5522, but hasn’t) and my AD said they could allocate either that watch or another Basel ‘18 piece for me to purchase. I’ve gone back and forth between the 5205 blue and the 5524, so wanted to solicit opinions.

UmichNJ · 21 July 2018, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

Agreed, Rolex might be even worse. I also wanted the blue Skydweller and ended up settling for white. I think it ended up being the right decision as I have been very happy with the watch.

Tay821 · 21 July 2018, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

Exact same thing happened to me. I wanted the white daytona but offered black and TOLD to buy. I bought...didn't like it...sold it...asked for white...told no. I'll never do business with that AD again.

Since then I always make sure to drop by though with different Pateks/Rolexs on though to show the future business they lost out on with me.

subtona · 21 July 2018, 05:35 AM

I really like the 5524 but there is too much overlap with the 5522.

Could trade 22 away but not the most exciting exchange from 1 to the other and the 22 is likely to appreciate.

ufboy73 · 21 July 2018, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tng11

People are buying because of FOMO. I was doing that with SS Rolex and it didn't pan out. I've now been a lot more calculated in my purchases and have been happier for it!

With Patek it's even crazier as we are talking very serious amounts of money!

Well, i also think its partly driven by the need to gain AD access for the eventual pieces the buyer may really want?

Look at it this way, buy some pieces that maybe you wouldnt have purchased otherwise, its gets you access to the pieces you really want, and because the first purchases are still desirable in their own right you could sell those over time and not be much (if any) out of pocket.

If one doesnt have a prior AD relationship and access it may be a reasonable strategy.

With the current limited supply and seemingly increasing demand, there is added inherent value to every desirable piece, even excluding secondary market pricing speculation.

pam66 · 21 July 2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

with steel rolexes it is not an issue. i also buy what i am offered (and what i possibly like), try it out for a month or two and sell it with zero hassle without loosing a penny (actually, it is easy to make a cut if you want to and put in a little effort, but that is not the purpose for me).

UmichNJ · 21 July 2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

Well, i also think its partly driven by the need to gain AD access for the eventual pieces the buyer may really want?

Look at it this way, buy some pieces that maybe you wouldnt have purchased otherwise, its gets you access to the pieces you really want, and because the first purchases are still desirable in their own right you could sell those over time and not be much (if any) out of pocket.

If one doesnt have a prior AD relationship and access it may be a reasonable strategy.

With the current limited supply and seemingly increasing demand, there is added inherent value to every desirable piece, even excluding secondary market pricing speculation.

I also try to be respectful and only buy watches that I will actually use and enjoy. My ADs appreciate that I am not a flipper and have been pretty good with getting me the pieces that I request.

RussW · 21 July 2018, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tng11

People are buying because of FOMO. I was doing that with SS Rolex and it didn't pan out. I've now been a lot more calculated in my purchases and have been happier for it!

With Patek it's even crazier as we are talking very serious amounts of money!

I guess buying a different coloured dial in a Rolex is one thing, or even buying a sub instead of a GMT master as there is a lot of overlap in design, so I can understand that. But buying a Patek because it’s there is something else - agreed it’s crazy!

RussW · 21 July 2018, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by UmichNJ

I have been interested in the 5524 for some time (which I thought might be allayed by the 5522, but hasn’t) and my AD said they could allocate either that watch or another Basel ‘18 piece for me to purchase. I’ve gone back and forth between the 5205 blue and the 5524, so wanted to solicit opinions.

I’d still go 5524. For a watch with a similar look to the 5205 I think the 5905 is nicer.

ufboy73 · 21 July 2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by UmichNJ

I also try to be respectful and only buy watches that I will actually use and enjoy. My ADs appreciate that I am not a flipper and have been pretty good with getting me the pieces that I request.

same here - i would never purchase a watch with the intent to flip...but i have had the thought of future access weigh on my purchase choices

Chiboy · 21 July 2018, 07:51 AM

I'd only get the 5524 if the 5522A is a safe queen that you are afraid to wear.

PS -- Go Blue! :)

RHIII · 21 July 2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Anything but the 5205 is my vote. 5524 is great looking. Why not 5711, 5712, 5131!?

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^^^this is where I’m at on the question...

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RHIII · 21 July 2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

its madness. Tons of people these days buy whatever they get offered so in general its pretty common. Over in the Rolex section its constant.... Im on the list for a blue sky dweller and got offered the black so i bought that. Or i want a white daytona but im buying the black because my AD offered me that one. I dont get it.

It’s a JOKE is what it is.

Sorry — I just call it like I see it.

I am just glad I have all the references I want / need for now....an AD (and friend for many years- who laughs about the current state with me)....and other hobbies.

(And I’m the guy that turned down number one BLRO...as I didn’t want it) principle.

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20 July 2018, 11:47 AM	#1
UmichNJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 441	Suggestion for next Patek I’m having real difficulty deciding on my next Patek. My AD has indicated that I could have either a 5524 or a 5205 blue dial this year. I am 38, so I prefer something that can be worn casually. My existing collection includes mostly Rolex sport models as well as the following: 5522 5726 white dial 5296 sector dial 5146 ivory dial 5164 Thanks.

20 July 2018, 11:51 AM	#2
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Suggestion for next Patek Anything but the 5205 is my vote. 5524 is great looking. Why not 5711, 5712, 5131!? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

20 July 2018, 12:09 PM	#5
JorgeCCW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Jorge Location: Ohio, USA Watch: Rolex,Patek and AP Posts: 4,675	Neither , I would shot for 5070 or a Worldtimer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing happens until something moves " Albert Einstein

20 July 2018, 01:48 PM	#7
uniqueMR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Watch: P A T E K Posts: 4,694	I will vote for: 5205. Plus its 2018 release and wear 40mm compare to 42mm (5524). BTW you have a very nice collection of Pateks __________________ A. Lange & Sohne \| Audemars Piguet \| F.P.Journe \| Omega \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| ...and Othersss

20 July 2018, 05:37 PM	#10
Sonzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Egypt Watch: PP/Breguet/IWC/Rlx Posts: 378	I’ll vote for the 5205, it looks different in your current collection. I’ll also go for customized nice straps which will add to it another sporty look. Classical/sporty combination sometimes gives a better looks than each style alone. __________________ Patek Philippe: 5712, 5146P Breguet: Marine GMT. IWC: Big Pilot “Le Petite Prince” Limited, Portugieser Chrono. Rolex: GMT Master II Batman.

20 July 2018, 12:30 PM	#6
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,623	Since you want casual and are already on the list for a 5711 (which was what I will recommend if you have not followed up with another post), what about a 5968? You will also have the honor of the first ever incoming in this forum 5968.png

20 July 2018, 02:26 PM	#8
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	No contest, 5524 is much nicer as a casual watch, if you want a casual one, so pretty obvious which to choose IMHO

20 July 2018, 06:56 PM	#11
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	IMHO the 5524 is very similar to the 5522. I wouldn't like to have both. I was about to recommend 5711 RG as it will be very different to your current collection but as you are waiting for the 5711, why not consider the 5712 RG?

20 July 2018, 09:55 PM	#12
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,230	I like that you don't have many of the usual suspects so I say stay pure and get the 5205 blue.

21 July 2018, 02:42 AM	#14
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	With the 5522 already I would get neither... and go 5990. I love the 5524 too so if you want two pilots go for that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

21 July 2018, 05:17 AM	#15
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,340	I don’t really get it - are you getting something because your AD said you can, or were you waiting for those 2 watches anyway? Of the 2 I’d get the 5524.

21 July 2018, 05:35 AM	#21
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,995	I really like the 5524 but there is too much overlap with the 5522. Could trade 22 away but not the most exciting exchange from 1 to the other and the 22 is likely to appreciate. __________________

21 July 2018, 07:51 AM	#28
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,384	I'd only get the 5524 if the 5522A is a safe queen that you are afraid to wear. PS -- Go Blue! :) __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

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