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2 July 2018, 07:34 AM | #31 | |
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2 July 2018, 10:02 AM | #32 | |
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Cool I’m glad I could be of some help! Have a good one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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2 July 2018, 11:21 AM | #33 |
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Try it on the side but crown up if crown down actually slows it too much as it typically slows it a little bit less... Also, remember the amount of time a day it spends in the resting position vs on the wrist obviously will make a difference.
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2 July 2018, 11:29 AM | #34 |
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Never knew this was documented. I own a D500C, and noticed that this was exactly what was happening, I wear my watch daily and was placing my watch at night accordingly to keep the time synced with my iphone. Definitely works.
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2 July 2018, 04:35 PM | #35 |
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Acceptable accuracy?
Could you please expound? (Honestly asking.) I’m one to believe that when I buy a Rolex, I should not worry about setting the watch in a particular position when I go to bed. Rolex should be the quintessential worry-free watch. But I do agree that lifestyles vary. And Rolex testing is just a robot wrist moving in an average number of positions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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3 July 2018, 02:17 AM | #36 | |
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That’s awesome. I bet it was a good feeling to kind of discover this yourself, then have verification from Rolex. Someone posted it on here a little while back and I decided to save it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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3 July 2018, 02:30 AM | #37 |
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My 5 year old Daytona, matters not how you leave the stem. I believe it has too much reserve for it to matter. (just a theory)
I only check and log accuracy and deviation once a month now. But it's still a good indicator if a watch gets magnetized, this will reveal it. Great watch BTW! Congrats! |
3 July 2018, 03:32 AM | #38 | |
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I really don't understand the animosity against people that care about accuracy. If 1 or 3 seconds a day makes a difference or not is beside the point. The educational posts that explain the complexities of mechanical time keeping to new comers are very welcome and appreciated. But bashing people for caring about how their very expensive time keeping devices are keeping time just boggles me. Anyway, just my two cents... |
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3 July 2018, 04:05 AM | #39 |
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Bashing people ????????? In the real world trying to explain how a mechanical movement works.Just because any movement is regulated on a machine it don't mean it will perform exactly the same daily on the wrist.
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3 July 2018, 04:52 AM | #40 | |
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But you know what I mean. That's a lot of making fun of/complaining about people that mention accuracy, and I don't get that. |
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3 July 2018, 10:38 AM | #41 | |
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3 July 2018, 12:13 PM | #42 |
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Yeah definitely awesome. It's good knowledge, cause I remember the first month of ownership, after the first month it was like 20 secs or so slower than my iphone, it it really kinda annoyed me, even though that's like less than a sec a day lol. Doing research on the TourBillion movement made me realize that position of a mechanical watch does in fact matter. Very interesting stuff.
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3 July 2018, 02:05 PM | #43 | |
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Yeah 20 seconds in one month is really good in my opinion You know what, I had a really good experience learning what a tourbillon is. I had read about it online here and there but never really understood it. I walked into a Vacheron Constantin boutique, just to look around and met a super cool salesman. He showed me around, showed me a tourbillon, I said “you know what, I really don’t know what that is,” and he sat with me and explained a little about the history of it, and what its purpose is. Like you said, “very interesting stuff.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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3 July 2018, 05:31 PM | #44 | ||
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The Tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation.The energy it consumes is taken from the reserve destined to the regulator. As a result, the balance wheel with less energy will have reduced advantages.Now I agree totally the skill needed to make the cage plus Tourbillon etc is a great horological skill.But in reality any Tourbillon watch is no more accurate that several other non Tourbillon watches that cost very very very much less.And even todays modern watches,with or without Tourbillons are not so accurate as one produced by John Harrison almost 300 years ago. Gravity is one of the main causes of rate variations in watches,by creating the Tourbillon,when Breguet thought he was eliminating its effects,It looks like it was an big error on his part,he only masked them like Tourbillons do.Now if someone could come up and counteract the effect on gravity on a wrist watch totally.Now that would be a big break through but until then Tourbillons,IMHO are just good to look at,and they are very very expensive to own,and they make them because they can.But again looking at the other side of the coin,in Breguets day a hundred plus years ago when he invented the Tourbillon and the tools he had then.And now today with modern machines and computers puts a different perspective on the making side of Tourbillons today.
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3 July 2018, 08:23 PM | #45 |
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Yeah it was more the theory behind it that got me thinking of how gravity would affect things. Hence leading to me think, how a watch rests over night might change if it gains or losses time.
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3 July 2018, 09:05 PM | #46 |
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3.4 per day is excellent IMO
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3 July 2018, 09:53 PM | #47 | |
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I have been considering making a post about this, actually, since I have not read about this anywhere else. While not the new movement, I sometimes listen to my SubC at night when going to bed. I notice that I hear not only the ticks, but a repeating pattern of ringing/overtones that I cannot quite describe. I assumed something was sounding just right in the escapement to cause something else to vibrate or resonate sympathetically. |
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4 July 2018, 02:47 AM | #48 | |
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I’ve read about how the tourbillon was invented to address issues in pocket watches which just sat in one position for the most part as the owner carried them in a little pocket in his/her vest. I’ve also read that in a wrist watch, they serve no real purpose. But hey, the whole mechanical watch really serves no purpose since we can find the time on our cell phone or using a quartz watch! haha “Only the fact that watchmakers can make them” I mean I think I just like the idea behind the tourbillon... To me, it’s cool that Breguet would’ve thought of such a thing. The other day, I was reading about how watchmakers try to address shock resistance... I read that Richard Mille makes a watch where the movement is actually suspended inside the case in order to provide shock resistance This may be overkill or something, I don’t know, but I think it’s cool that Richard Mille thought of this, and made it work. As somebody new to watches, I would like to admit that sometimes I’m reading and I’m just blown away by something I learn It makes reading about watches pretty enjoyable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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4 July 2018, 10:43 AM | #49 |
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Pretty much spot on. Wrist watches in general serve no real purpose in this modern day hehe
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4 July 2018, 11:35 PM | #50 |
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Enjoy your watch for every 86400 seconds in every day and remember that even though our watches gain or loose we still get 86400 seconds every day, that doesn’t change
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5 July 2018, 02:37 AM | #51 |
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Update :
After putting the watch crown up nightly, accuracy is vastly improved. Running at an average of +0.77s/d now! Amazing! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
5 July 2018, 05:06 AM | #52 | |
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14 July 2018, 05:09 AM | #53 |
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Recently bought my first Rolex, it’s a Rolex date 15200 and decided to join the forum.. mine is currently running 2 seconds fast after a month!! Amazing how accurate a 19 year old watch can be!
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20 July 2018, 06:00 PM | #54 |
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My Explorer II, Movement 3187 is more than accurate.
On the wrist for ~ 17hrs +-0/-0,1 spd Off the wrist for ~ 7hrs crown down +0,5 spd crown up -1,3 spd Dial up -0,3 spd dial down -0,2 sp So I can play with how I lay the watch down over night. If I want to gain half a second crown down, if I want to lose some tenths of seconds dial up or down. |
20 July 2018, 09:13 PM | #55 |
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My GMT runs around +5/+6 but my Sub C was always on the slower side -3/-4.
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28 July 2018, 04:43 AM | #56 |
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My new GMT2 is currently running -1 sec after being set to NIST Monday night. I've only worn it in the evenings so far this week.
How much does wearing affect accuracy? |
28 July 2018, 05:15 AM | #57 |
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Here is mine, same watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
3 August 2018, 12:31 AM | #58 |
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I may have missed it but what App is that that you are using to track the accuracy
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3 August 2018, 12:45 AM | #59 |
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Never mind I found it
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3 August 2018, 02:08 AM | #60 |
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I get the greatest variations of all in the Vertical 12up (crown right) and 12 down (crown left) positions in both my BLNR (3186 movement) and my EX11 (3187).
My BLNR is +6 12 down and -4 12 up. I bought myself a little watch stand to be able to leave it vertical 12up overnight to compensate for the +4 to +5 I get wearing it in the day (a lot of 12 down position). BLNR is only 2 months old, so will give it some time to settle in. My EX11 is much better +2 when wearing and -2 vertical 12up overnight. All of this verified by my timing machine and the same app you have. |
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