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dysert · 12 July 2018, 08:54 AM

My first high end Patek. Which of the two do you prefer? Leaning toward the 5712. Thanks.

MCMartiny · 12 July 2018, 09:06 AM

5712: Thinner and more true to the original Genta design, beautiful blue dial, romantic moon phase complication, classic 240 micro-rotor movement with lots of Patek DNA

5990: More heft and wrist presence (think Rolex SubC level), super useful GMT complication, probably a rarer watch in terms of production numbers, balanced and symmetric dial layout, perhaps easier to source at retail

If possible you should try both watches on before deciding (e.g. at a second hand / grey dealer), they are quite different pieces aesthetically and in terms of wrist presence and function.

Out of the two I would personally go for the 5712, but I am biased:

Bearxj86 · 12 July 2018, 09:08 AM

My personal view: The Gerald Genta Nautilus was designed to be a sleek and elegant, ultra thin steel sports/dress watch. Anything thicker than 9mm feels a little large. My vote : 5712

AK797 · 12 July 2018, 09:13 AM

5712 for me, love the dial and like having the PP name at the top of the dial.

Ichiran · 12 July 2018, 09:17 AM

Get the 5712, it's a masterpiece. You will appreciate the beautiful asymmetrical dial, and it's a gradient blue.

Sonzy · 12 July 2018, 09:26 AM

I’ll go for the 5712 without thinking

RussW · 12 July 2018, 09:27 AM

5990 would be my choice. The 5712 is very nice, and the micro rotor is nice to have, but it’s functions are fairly ordinary. The 5990 is a flyback chrono, which in my view is more special, plus it has the second time zone function.

The thickness of each can be a pro or con depending on your preference. For a thicker Nautilus case I think the 5990 pulls this off better than the 5880.

nyc2la · 12 July 2018, 09:51 AM

5712/1a ftw

mnl · 12 July 2018, 10:01 AM

For some reason I don’t really like the 5712…so 5990 for sure, I love it. If you’d like a sleeker watch I personally prefer the 5711 over the 12.

turborolex · 12 July 2018, 10:12 AM

If I had to choose one or the other, I’d go for the 5712 just because I feel it’s more “elegant”

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jrs146 · 12 July 2018, 11:07 AM

2 of my favorite Nautilus options and I hope to own both some day. If I had to choose one I’d go for the 5712

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GB-man · 12 July 2018, 11:47 AM

5712 would be the choice for me. I really dig the 240 and just not a huge fan of the 5990 (although I haven’t seen one in the metal so maybe I’m wrong on it).

watchtabs · 12 July 2018, 11:52 AM

5712.

I went through this dilemma recently. If I wanted the heft, I would still have my Rolexes/APs.

What drew me to PP in the first place was the elegance, finesse of the watches.

Although a 5990 is in my future, I decided to pick the 5712 first. Next I’m on a 5711 white , due to the same thinness.

But for 2019/2020 I’m for sure going 5990.

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JJ WA · 12 July 2018, 12:18 PM

5712. My favorite watch.

porschejeff · 12 July 2018, 12:20 PM

5712 for me!

goog53 · 12 July 2018, 01:04 PM

Not even close IMO. 5712 is the winner

texasmade · 12 July 2018, 01:31 PM

5990 for me.

philster · 12 July 2018, 01:59 PM

5990 gets my vote

Sam Philip · 12 July 2018, 04:34 PM

5990

lord91 · 12 July 2018, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dysert

My first high end Patek. Which of the two do you prefer? Leaning toward the 5712. Thanks.

Neither are high end, especially the 5712. If you want a slim watch and fancy more the blue dial, go for the 5712, otherwise the 599o is nicer on all counts.

tom2517 · 12 July 2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lord91

Neither are high end, especially the 5712. If you want a slim watch and fancy more the blue dial, go for the 5712, otherwise the 599o is nicer on all counts.

Ouch.

lord91 · 12 July 2018, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom2517

Ouch.

But it's true, GC are the high end pieces.

tom2517 · 12 July 2018, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord91

But it's true, GC are the high end pieces.

Yes I know, I have friends who believe real Pateks starts at PPC.

MrWeha · 12 July 2018, 06:38 PM

5990

1William · 12 July 2018, 09:25 PM

I prefer the 5712.

tyler1980 · 12 July 2018, 09:35 PM

Have both. The 5990 is my favourite watch I have ever owned and that is saying a lot because the 5712 is amazing too

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tng11 · 12 July 2018, 10:11 PM

5712 for me. The slimness, blue dial, PR, moonphase, microrotor movement all work together in harmony for the perfect sports/dress watch.

RHIII · 12 July 2018, 10:37 PM

They are both great watches - but I would pick the 5990 out of the two - hands down.

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ap1 · 13 July 2018, 01:21 AM

12 for the win, better size for my 6.5

tyler1980 · 13 July 2018, 01:41 AM

12 July 2018, 08:54 AM	#1
dysert "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 190	5712 va. 5990 My first high end Patek. Which of the two do you prefer? Leaning toward the 5712. Thanks.

12 July 2018, 09:26 AM	#6
Sonzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Egypt Watch: PP/Breguet/IWC/Rlx Posts: 378	I’ll go for the 5712 without thinking __________________ Patek Philippe: 5712, 5146P Breguet: Marine GMT. IWC: Big Pilot “Le Petite Prince” Limited, Portugieser Chrono. Rolex: GMT Master II Batman.

12 July 2018, 09:51 AM	#8
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,176	5712/1a ftw __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

12 July 2018, 10:12 AM	#10
turborolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: H. Location: USA Posts: 564	If I had to choose one or the other, I’d go for the 5712 just because I feel it’s more “elegant” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ current collection: Patek 5712, Patek 5726 (white), Patek 5990, Patek 5524G, Rolex 116500 (white & black), AP 26331ST (Blue).

12 July 2018, 11:07 AM	#11
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	2 of my favorite Nautilus options and I hope to own both some day. If I had to choose one I’d go for the 5712 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

12 July 2018, 09:06 AM	#2
MCMartiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Somewhere in time Watch: Lange & Patek Posts: 612	5712: Thinner and more true to the original Genta design, beautiful blue dial, romantic moon phase complication, classic 240 micro-rotor movement with lots of Patek DNA 5990: More heft and wrist presence (think Rolex SubC level), super useful GMT complication, probably a rarer watch in terms of production numbers, balanced and symmetric dial layout, perhaps easier to source at retail If possible you should try both watches on before deciding (e.g. at a second hand / grey dealer), they are quite different pieces aesthetically and in terms of wrist presence and function. Out of the two I would personally go for the 5712, but I am biased:

12 July 2018, 09:08 AM	#3
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,801	My personal view: The Gerald Genta Nautilus was designed to be a sleek and elegant, ultra thin steel sports/dress watch. Anything thicker than 9mm feels a little large. My vote : 5712

12 July 2018, 09:13 AM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,237	5712 for me, love the dial and like having the PP name at the top of the dial.

12 July 2018, 09:17 AM	#5
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,624	Get the 5712, it's a masterpiece. You will appreciate the beautiful asymmetrical dial, and it's a gradient blue.

12 July 2018, 09:27 AM	#7
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,340	5990 would be my choice. The 5712 is very nice, and the micro rotor is nice to have, but it’s functions are fairly ordinary. The 5990 is a flyback chrono, which in my view is more special, plus it has the second time zone function. The thickness of each can be a pro or con depending on your preference. For a thicker Nautilus case I think the 5990 pulls this off better than the 5880.

12 July 2018, 10:01 AM	#9
mnl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: sf Watch: 15450ST Posts: 540	For some reason I don’t really like the 5712…so 5990 for sure, I love it. If you’d like a sleeker watch I personally prefer the 5711 over the 12.

12 July 2018, 11:47 AM	#12
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	5712 would be the choice for me. I really dig the 240 and just not a huge fan of the 5990 (although I haven’t seen one in the metal so maybe I’m wrong on it). __________________

12 July 2018, 11:52 AM	#13
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	5712. I went through this dilemma recently. If I wanted the heft, I would still have my Rolexes/APs. What drew me to PP in the first place was the elegance, finesse of the watches. Although a 5990 is in my future, I decided to pick the 5712 first. Next I’m on a 5711 white , due to the same thinness. But for 2019/2020 I’m for sure going 5990. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

12 July 2018, 12:18 PM	#14
JJ WA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 787	5712. My favorite watch.

12 July 2018, 12:20 PM	#15
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,456	5712 for me!

12 July 2018, 01:04 PM	#16
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	Not even close IMO. 5712 is the winner __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

12 July 2018, 01:31 PM	#17
texasmade "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Lone Star State Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS Posts: 2,333	5990 for me.

12 July 2018, 01:59 PM	#18
philster "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California Posts: 161	5990 gets my vote

12 July 2018, 04:34 PM	#19
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	5990

12 July 2018, 06:38 PM	#24
MrWeha "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: EU Posts: 99	5990

12 July 2018, 09:25 PM	#25
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,756	I prefer the 5712.

12 July 2018, 09:35 PM	#26
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	Have both. The 5990 is my favourite watch I have ever owned and that is saying a lot because the 5712 is amazing too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

12 July 2018, 10:11 PM	#27
tng11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,629	5712 for me. The slimness, blue dial, PR, moonphase, microrotor movement all work together in harmony for the perfect sports/dress watch.

12 July 2018, 10:37 PM	#28
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	They are both great watches - but I would pick the 5990 out of the two - hands down. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 July 2018, 01:21 AM	#29
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,042	12 for the win, better size for my 6.5

13 July 2018, 01:41 AM	#30
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	__________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

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