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edgangi · 20 July 2018, 11:12 AM

Hey guys,

Would really appreciate some advice. I just bought a 5980 1R (not cheap obviously) from a reputable store (at least I think - physical presence, lots of ebay feedback, etc) in the US and the watch has not yet arrived but I had the seller send me a picture of the paperwork from the AD.

The name was filled in with mine (apparently it was a display model from an AD in Milan) but was dated and has the store name (verified AD) on the bottom of the paperwork. However, there is no stamp in the section where the AD usually goes. Both my normal watch guy (local dealer) and the store I bought it from said that this is common from European dealers. So my questions are follows:

1) Is this really common? I did a quick google image search and couldn't find any paperwork without a stamp on it or a blacked out section where the stamp would go meaning there was indeed a stamp there.

2) What is the reason for not stamping the certificate? It is dated, has the store name on the bottom of the certificate, etc. I can't see a valid reason why it would be missing a stamp.

3) Will this present a problem for me in terms of resale or having the watch serviced by AP (its dated March 2018 so still a lot of warranty left)?

Thanks guys! Would really appreciate some feedback

kunlun · 21 July 2018, 04:17 AM

2) To hide that it is actually gray market.

3) You don't have an AP warranty.

tyler1980 · 21 July 2018, 04:39 AM

Lol. I can guarantee AP won’t honor a Patek warranty.

For a watch that expensive why not buy it from an AD and save yourself the hassle? It’s absolutely obtainable from an AD. You may wait a bit but nothing like a 5711

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Lime · 21 July 2018, 05:30 AM

doesn't sound good. Hopefully you don't run into a warranty issue

lapince · 23 July 2018, 07:57 PM

Get it from an AD, you might wait a few months but nothing horrible and everything will be ok

1William · 23 July 2018, 09:08 PM

See what it looks like when it arrives. If you have questions post here with pictures. With a watch that is that expensive if you should have service issues just pay.

20 July 2018, 11:12 AM	#1
edgangi "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: san diego Posts: 3	Question on Unstamped Patek Certificate. Hey guys, Would really appreciate some advice. I just bought a 5980 1R (not cheap obviously) from a reputable store (at least I think - physical presence, lots of ebay feedback, etc) in the US and the watch has not yet arrived but I had the seller send me a picture of the paperwork from the AD. The name was filled in with mine (apparently it was a display model from an AD in Milan) but was dated and has the store name (verified AD) on the bottom of the paperwork. However, there is no stamp in the section where the AD usually goes. Both my normal watch guy (local dealer) and the store I bought it from said that this is common from European dealers. So my questions are follows: 1) Is this really common? I did a quick google image search and couldn't find any paperwork without a stamp on it or a blacked out section where the stamp would go meaning there was indeed a stamp there. 2) What is the reason for not stamping the certificate? It is dated, has the store name on the bottom of the certificate, etc. I can't see a valid reason why it would be missing a stamp. 3) Will this present a problem for me in terms of resale or having the watch serviced by AP (its dated March 2018 so still a lot of warranty left)? Thanks guys! Would really appreciate some feedback

21 July 2018, 04:39 AM	#3
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	Question on Unstamped Patek Certificate. Lol. I can guarantee AP won’t honor a Patek warranty. For a watch that expensive why not buy it from an AD and save yourself the hassle? It’s absolutely obtainable from an AD. You may wait a bit but nothing like a 5711 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

21 July 2018, 04:17 AM	#2
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,894	2) To hide that it is actually gray market. 3) You don't have an AP warranty.

21 July 2018, 05:30 AM	#4
Lime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Canada Watch: Rolex, JLC, etc Posts: 354	doesn't sound good. Hopefully you don't run into a warranty issue

23 July 2018, 07:57 PM	#5
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Get it from an AD, you might wait a few months but nothing horrible and everything will be ok

23 July 2018, 09:08 PM	#6
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,671	See what it looks like when it arrives. If you have questions post here with pictures. With a watch that is that expensive if you should have service issues just pay.

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