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Old 15 April 2021, 02:57 AM   #1
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Hey folks,

I have just purchased this guys from a guy that I trust.

Everything looks really good about the watch and we tried to figure out if the hands are the original hands. Obviously it is tritium and nothing else seems to have been replaced and looks original.

Do you know if watches that the hands stayed relatively white compared to the indices?

Do you see anything unusual?

Thanks for the help!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S-W...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cr-...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bc8...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bc8...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NuL...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MbF...w?usp=drivesdk
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Old 15 April 2021, 03:10 AM   #2
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Thread title sounds like a high school football pass play
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Old 15 April 2021, 04:31 AM   #3
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Old 15 April 2021, 05:27 AM   #4
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Hands do not look original.
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Old 15 April 2021, 06:06 AM   #5
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Hands do not look original.
Are you sure?
Looks like it is tritium with a loupe, doesn’t glow etc... it can’t be a little bit different than the indices?
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Old 15 April 2021, 06:14 AM   #6
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Are you sure?
Looks like it is tritium with a loupe, doesn’t glow etc... it can’t be a little bit different than the indices?
The hands and indices don't look like they aged the same though, which is why I believe he's saying that they're not original. All thing's considered, the aging on the hands and indices typically match in color when everything is original. The hands on this do look noticeably whiter than the indices. Even though they may be tritium, they could still be tritium replacement hand's from a service when Rolex still used tritium.

I'm not saying they are or aren't original, I'm thinking that's how he's coming to his assessment.
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Old 15 April 2021, 06:20 AM   #7
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The hands and indices don't look like they aged the same though, which is why I believe he's saying that they're not original. All thing's considered, the aging on the hands and indices typically match in color when everything is original. The hands on this do look noticeably whiter than the indices. Even though they may be tritium, they could still be tritium replacement hand's from a service when Rolex still used tritium.

I'm not saying they are or aren't original, I'm thinking that's how he's coming to his assessment.
Fully understood,

I am wondering if it is possible that there will be a mismatch like that or that it is very uncommon...

Any other noticeable issues with the watch?
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Old 15 April 2021, 06:34 AM   #8
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Hey folks,



I have just purchased this guys from a guy that I trust.



Everything looks really good about the watch and we tried to figure out if the hands are the original hands. Obviously it is tritium and nothing else seems to have been replaced and looks original.



Do you know if watches that the hands stayed relatively white compared to the indices?



Do you see anything unusual?



Thanks for the help!



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S-W...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cr-...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bc8...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bc8...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NuL...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MbF...w?usp=drivesdk



Am posting below the pictures from your links above for the benefit of others:



Could be that the hands are original / aged differently, remaining whiter than the hour markers?

On my S serial 16610 below, which owned since new (jan 1995) and still has original dial and hands, some parts of the hands looks whiter than others or even the hour markers.




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Old 15 April 2021, 07:01 AM   #9
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Are you sure?
Looks like it is tritium with a loupe, doesn’t glow etc... it can’t be a little bit different than the indices?
I am not sure, but my hunch is that the hands were either swapped at some point or could be original and had the tritium repainted, etc.

Typically if the dial and hands were left alone from the factory they would age in a very similar fashion.
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Old 15 April 2021, 07:19 AM   #10
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Am posting below the pictures from your links above for the benefit of others:



Could be that the hands are original / aged differently, remaining whiter than the hour markers?

On my S serial 16610 below, which owned since new (jan 1995) and still has original dial and hands, some parts of the hands looks whiter than others or even the hour markers.




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Thanks for adding the photos.

Do you think it is possible that everything is in its original state then?

Thanks
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Old 15 April 2021, 07:56 AM   #11
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OP, post this in the "vintage" section. There are a lot of experts on that forum.
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Old 15 April 2021, 07:56 AM   #12
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Is it me or are some of the markers warped? (2:00 index)

OP, you should have done more research before purchasing imo. I'm not a tritium expert but the hands do look off. I'm sure more knowledgeable folks can chime in.
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Old 15 April 2021, 08:24 AM   #13
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My 16610 1990 Submariner has hands that are lighter than the indices.
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Old 15 April 2021, 08:29 AM   #14
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I also think the hand looks off. But the experts will have more insight on that.
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Old 15 April 2021, 10:54 AM   #15
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The hands exhibit qualities of being relumed - and they were done poorly at that. The lume is not even at all within the hands.

There is nothing wrong with having relumed or repaired hands since many vintage watches have had their hands repaired - except, when you pay for tritium hands, I would expect that you should get what you paid for.
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Old 15 April 2021, 11:07 AM   #16
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The colors can certainly age differently on dial and hands, but this difference just feels like too much for a watch of this age IMO. Also,the lume in the minute hand looks wonky and uneven, like paint spilling out onto the metal surface. Have you looked under a loupe.
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Old 15 April 2021, 01:13 PM   #17
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it looks like the dial and lume were damaged by water. i never understood the fancy names for damaged dial


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Old 15 April 2021, 04:25 PM   #18
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Would love to get some more details from more experts:)
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Old 15 April 2021, 05:13 PM   #19
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LUA...w?usp=drivesdk

Maybe that one will help as well?
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Old 17 April 2021, 05:37 AM   #20
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Very nice!
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