5990r vs 5980r heavy hitter

[Harry_S]

Looking to add one of these to gold Nautilus to my collection.
I am in the fortunate position of being able to buy at list at my AD for either of these.
Prior to 2021 Patek releases my heart was set on the 5980r as my heavy hitter as I have always lusted after the 5980 SS but was not able to buy new and the prices of used discontinued ones are such that I may as well spend a little extra and buy PM all gold instead of steel.
But since seeing pictures of 5990r I find my mind going towards the blue dial and this being the "Don" Nautilus reference.
What are your views on the two big bad boys of Nautilus versus each other?
Price wise I expect both to hold their value very well regardless as one will probably be discontinued in the next few years and one has just been launched and will probably be the watch to have for the instagram glitterati.

[GeraldGentaFan]

I own the 5980 1r and today saw the 5990 1r.

I prefer the dial layout of 5980 and dial color of 5990. Both spectacular but 5980 would still have my preference. 5980 is more of an icon in my view and a future classic. Not sure the 5990 will be.

[pav333hp]

5990R is absolutely fabulous and I would go with that. It was always a beautiful watch, and now in rose gold takes the crown as king of all current Nautilus' imho. Plus it has very useful complications, so winner in my book.

[azizu]

The 5990R is really beautiful, and it has an extra complication.
and to be able to get it at the year it was launched is just acing on the cake

[7sins]

5980. The 5990 is a bit clunky/chunky on my wrist.

[taylorhall]

I’d try on a 5990 at a grey to get a feel of the size. I have a 7.5 inch wrist and it was very too heavy/clunky for me. I prefer the nautilus with a slim profile...


Why not 5740?


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[Ichiran]

I did a poll previously and more people like the 5990/1R. I prefer the combination of rose gold and blue dial too.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=798200

[Humble michael]

Yep, I have a 5990 SS and love it but the R is a grail for sure. If you can get it at list that would be the one to have in my opinion. Complications are more useful than 5960’, I think.

[Humble michael]

Whoops I meant 5980 ( which is a great piece.

[mwireless]

First let me correct you. It's not a 5990R or a 5980R... It's a 5990/1R and a 5980/1R. The 1R is for a full rose gold bracelet and the R by itself is for a rose gold watch on leather strap.

IMHO it's way harder to match a blue and gold watch with most clothing choices. For example it would look tacky af to wear a black or charcoal suit with a blue dial watch.
Sure it can be done, but so can walking everywhere barefoot. That doesn't make it a great idea. It's definitely not as versatile as the 5980 1R. Plus I think the dial of the 5990/1R is quite busy and they shoved the iconic Patek logo into the little dial on the bottom. It just looks so out of place.

If I had to choose between the two, then its the 5980/1R hands down.... Now that I already have a 5980/1R, I wouldn't mind also having a 5990/1R just for those times I'd like to wear a blue suit or something blue. But most occasions that I'd like to wear a FU watch, 5980/1R is still the King. It's just more tasteful and elegant through and through.

[archer1021]

Between the 2 I’d probably go for the 5990/1r

I have the 5980/1r

Waiting on the 5990 blue. Hopefully soon fingered crossed


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[Murcielagoboy2]

Originally Posted by mwireless

First let me correct you. It's not a 5990R or a 5980R... It's a 5990/1R and a 5980/1R. The 1R is for a full rose gold bracelet and the R by itself is for a rose gold watch on leather strap.

IMHO it's way harder to match a blue and gold watch with most clothing choices. For example it would look tacky af to wear a black or charcoal suit with a blue dial watch.
Sure it can be done, but so can walking everywhere barefoot. That doesn't make it a great idea. It's definitely not as versatile as the 5980 1R. Plus I think the dial of the 5990/1R is quite busy and they shoved the iconic Patek logo into the little dial on the bottom. It just looks so out of place.

If I had to choose between the two, then its the 5980/1R hands down.... Now that I already have a 5980/1R, I wouldn't mind also having a 5990/1R just for those times I'd like to wear a blue suit or something blue. But most occasions that I'd like to wear a FU watch, 5980/1R is still the King. It's just more tasteful and elegant through and through.

I totally agree that the 5990’s dial is busy and somehow not right.The placement of the brand motif at the bottom is incongruous. I actually really dislike the steel version because the steel with the dark dial just make it look a little flat..

That said, I’d never wear either of these two /1r models with any kind of suit!!!!!! Ever. That would be tantamount to wearing a Cuban Gold chain with a suit.

[Amiricanmade]

Originally Posted by Harry_S

Looking to add one of these to gold Nautilus to my collection.
I am in the fortunate position of being able to buy at list at my AD for either of these.
Prior to 2021 Patek releases my heart was set on the 5980r as my heavy hitter as I have always lusted after the 5980 SS but was not able to buy new and the prices of used discontinued ones are such that I may as well spend a little extra and buy PM all gold instead of steel.
But since seeing pictures of 5990r I find my mind going towards the blue dial and this being the "Don" Nautilus reference.
What are your views on the two big bad boys of Nautilus versus each other?
Price wise I expect both to hold their value very well regardless as one will probably be discontinued in the next few years and one has just been launched and will probably be the watch to have for the instagram glitterati.

If youre asking for a insta/"Don" Nautilus get the 5990, youll get more "likes" with the new. I personally prefer the 5980/1R, specially the 2021 model. They now both shared the new bracelet similar to the 5740 which helps center the weight of the watch. For me, i love black/grey dials on rose so its a no brainer. If i had to choose one id choose the 5980/1R. I am also bias as i have the 5980 & a 5990 and feel the "travel time" is great for a stainless watch but unsure how i feel about it on a gold piece.

[Amiricanmade]

Originally Posted by taylorhall

I’d try on a 5990 at a grey to get a feel of the size. I have a 7.5 inch wrist and it was very too heavy/clunky for me. I prefer the nautilus with a slim profile...


Why not 5740?


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Why not? Because its not a 5980 or a 5990. Hey OP, why not BTC instead of either since we wanna bring random "why nots"? lol. Also, allocation of 5740 is much harder than a 5990.

Originally Posted by 7sins

5980. The 5990 is a bit clunky/chunky on my wrist.

Fits same as 5980

[7sins]

Originally Posted by Amiricanmade

Why not? Because its not a 5980 or a 5990. Hey OP, why not BTC instead of either since we wanna bring random "why nots"? lol. Also, allocation of 5740 is much harder than a 5990.



Fits same as 5980

The 5990 is a thicker case, it wears noticeably larger than a 5980.

[Amiricanmade]

Originally Posted by 7sins

The 5990 is a thicker case, it wears noticeably larger than a 5980.

Own both, disagree. They are basically the same.

[Chary]

I had the 5990 and it was the same size as the 5980 IMO. But then again I am talking about SS.

[Shaitan]

So where is the 5990 you bought? That piece sells for 300k now on the grey market and you got offered it with no purchase history. Very doubtful to put it nicely. In December you posted you asked to buy your first entry level Patek - and just 4 months later you get a 5990/1R? Wrist shot? BS?

[ramenlover]

Originally Posted by Shaitan

So where is the 5990 you bought? That piece sells for 300k now on the grey market and you got offered it with no purchase history. Very doubtful to put it nicely. In December you posted you asked to buy your first entry level Patek - and just 4 months later you get a 5990/1R? Wrist shot? BS?

So the drama from the locked Batman thread on the main forum continues…hold on let me get my popcorn

[uniqueMR]

5990r

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by ramenlover

So the drama from the locked Batman thread on the main forum continues…hold on let me get my popcorn

Link the thread here?

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[ramenlover]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=816346

Enjoy

[jamestucker]

Originally Posted by ramenlover

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=816346

Enjoy

Had a read, the OP could be right. An AD manager from the same group was fired after taking bribes.

[IBDOC]

5980 of all kinds have skewed chrono pushers compared to 5990. Cannot unsee.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

5980 of all kinds have skewed chrono pushers compared to 5990. Cannot unsee.

True. I don't like the oversized left side pushers on 5990 any better though. Much prefer 5968 over both 5980 and 5990.

[brandrea]

This thread needs pictures

[Daytonaman799]

5990….has dual time function. Plus the dial is just amazing.

[Vince_76]

5980r no question, IMO

[JorgeCCW]

5990 in stainless steel over any of your 2 options.
But if you need gold then 5980R