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AgentHsu · 23 November 2016, 06:07 AM

Hi guys, just got my 16808 back from LA Watchworks. They did a beautiful job refreshing my watch. But I have one concern that I wanted to get your experience on. When I brought it in, it was running +10sec/day.

Now, it's at about +6sec/day. (Cal 3035) Is this an acceptable standard, or should I bring it back? I've seen people talk about their watches running +/-2 sec a day, and I thought spending $800 for a full overhaul should get me pretty close to that. What do you guys think? I don't want to bother them unless there's some consensus that my watch should be running more precisely.

Thanks!

jdmi32 · 23 November 2016, 06:20 AM

Seems like it's keeping very good time so I wouldn't send it in again. IMO, the less these old watches are opened up and worked on (within reason), the better.

2ar2c1 · 23 November 2016, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AgentHsu

Now, it's at about +6sec/day. (Cal 3035) Is this an acceptable standard, or should I bring it back? I've seen people talk about their watches running +/-2 sec a day

Did you specifically tell Edvi you wanted 2 sec accuracy? The standard is -4/+6 seconds and it sounds like they achieved that.

Fredrik · 23 November 2016, 06:36 AM

If it just was serviced I would wait a couple of months and see how it performs then. If it consistently runs plus 6s a day still, you can just have it regulated to your liking. I have mine regulated to between plus 0.5 and 1s per day.

When I have my watches serviced at the RSC here in Sweden there is a warranty and having it regulated a while afterwards if necessary is included.

Assquatch · 23 November 2016, 09:19 AM

+6 is reasonable. That being said it can be regulated to a little better rate. Often times a watch is timed and averages out to closer to 0 seconds in a multi-day timing process but the end user, due to the position the watch spends the majority of its time in, may experience a different rate. I've had some customers that need the watch regulated to an average rate that looks bad on paper but keeps good time for the user.

janice&fred · 23 November 2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Assquatch

+6 is reasonable. That being said it can be regulated to a little better rate. Often times a watch is timed and averages out to closer to 0 seconds in a multi-day timing process but the end user, due to the position the watch spends the majority of its time in, may experience a different rate. I've had some customers that need the watch regulated to an average rate that looks bad on paper but keeps good time for the user.

yes very true. it's very difficult to mimic the movements of a particular owner and regulate a watch to match it via a time grapher. the most important aspect of regulation is consistency. as long as the watch USUALLY gains or looses the same amount every day then the movement is healthy. for me it seems the OP's watch is regulated properly and should not be a concern.

AgentHsu · 23 November 2016, 12:03 PM

Interesting, ok! I'll sit on it for a bit and see if it bothers me. I wish it were closer to zero!

SAAS · 23 November 2016, 04:37 PM

I'd be happy with that if you aren't talk with Edvi and the team at LA they stand behind their work and want you to be happy.

Craft&Tailored · 24 November 2016, 03:16 PM

Id say that's within acceptable vintage spec to be honest... but the dudes at LA watchworks im sure would want ya to be happy. Call them if you're concerned.. but again vintage watches using original and vintage parts tend to beat a little differently than the latest models. just my 2 cents

AgentHsu · 4 December 2016, 08:31 PM

Update: it has been about two weeks, and now my watch is running +3s per day, consistently. I am satisfied!

dysondiver · 4 December 2016, 08:39 PM

i would have been happy at +6 , but +3 is great ,,,

MonBK · 4 December 2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentHsu

Update: it has been about two weeks, and now my watch is running +3s per day, consistently. I am satisfied!

Great.

JustinK · 4 December 2016, 10:59 PM

My watchmaker times a watch in multiple positions before signing off on it. I am not sure if this is something required by Rolex or a common practice. Interesting that a watch will keep time differently on the wrist vs sitting in different positions.

I have always heard within 4 seconds was acceptable.

Pcurtin8 · 5 December 2016, 04:55 PM

Like mentioned earlier, I would wait a month, then measure for a month. Wear it everyday, and divide the time into sec per day. Also set the watch on its side while You sleep and see if that slows it down.

superstarmar · 24 February 2017, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AgentHsu

Interesting, ok! I'll sit on it for a bit and see if it bothers me. I wish it were closer to zero!

I just recently got a 16803 TT Black dial...
Serviced and sold by my local AD where I
purchased it... running at + .05 sec a day ...
+ 6 is within COSC but I personally wouldn't
be happy with that ... Especially after an $800 bill.

23 November 2016, 06:07 AM	#1
AgentHsu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mr. Hsu Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Datejust Posts: 597	Expectations after service at LA Watchworks Hi guys, just got my 16808 back from LA Watchworks. They did a beautiful job refreshing my watch. But I have one concern that I wanted to get your experience on. When I brought it in, it was running +10sec/day. Now, it's at about +6sec/day. (Cal 3035) Is this an acceptable standard, or should I bring it back? I've seen people talk about their watches running +/-2 sec a day, and I thought spending $800 for a full overhaul should get me pretty close to that. What do you guys think? I don't want to bother them unless there's some consensus that my watch should be running more precisely. Thanks! __________________ Good things come to those who wear Rolexes.

23 November 2016, 12:03 PM	#7
AgentHsu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mr. Hsu Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Datejust Posts: 597	Interesting, ok! I'll sit on it for a bit and see if it bothers me. I wish it were closer to zero! __________________ Good things come to those who wear Rolexes.

4 December 2016, 08:31 PM	#10
AgentHsu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mr. Hsu Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Datejust Posts: 597	Update: it has been about two weeks, and now my watch is running +3s per day, consistently. I am satisfied! __________________ Good things come to those who wear Rolexes.

5 December 2016, 04:55 PM	#14
Pcurtin8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Portland OR Posts: 12	Wait a month Like mentioned earlier, I would wait a month, then measure for a month. Wear it everyday, and divide the time into sec per day. Also set the watch on its side while You sleep and see if that slows it down.

23 November 2016, 06:20 AM	#2
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	Seems like it's keeping very good time so I wouldn't send it in again. IMO, the less these old watches are opened up and worked on (within reason), the better.

23 November 2016, 06:36 AM	#4
Fredrik 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,825	If it just was serviced I would wait a couple of months and see how it performs then. If it consistently runs plus 6s a day still, you can just have it regulated to your liking. I have mine regulated to between plus 0.5 and 1s per day. When I have my watches serviced at the RSC here in Sweden there is a warranty and having it regulated a while afterwards if necessary is included.

23 November 2016, 09:19 AM	#5
Assquatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Dave Location: Washington, USA Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 134	+6 is reasonable. That being said it can be regulated to a little better rate. Often times a watch is timed and averages out to closer to 0 seconds in a multi-day timing process but the end user, due to the position the watch spends the majority of its time in, may experience a different rate. I've had some customers that need the watch regulated to an average rate that looks bad on paper but keeps good time for the user.

23 November 2016, 04:37 PM	#8
SAAS "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 546	I'd be happy with that if you aren't talk with Edvi and the team at LA they stand behind their work and want you to be happy.

24 November 2016, 03:16 PM	#9
Craft&Tailored "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,254	Id say that's within acceptable vintage spec to be honest... but the dudes at LA watchworks im sure would want ya to be happy. Call them if you're concerned.. but again vintage watches using original and vintage parts tend to beat a little differently than the latest models. just my 2 cents

4 December 2016, 08:39 PM	#11
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	i would have been happy at +6 , but +3 is great ,,,

4 December 2016, 10:59 PM	#13
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,053	My watchmaker times a watch in multiple positions before signing off on it. I am not sure if this is something required by Rolex or a common practice. Interesting that a watch will keep time differently on the wrist vs sitting in different positions. I have always heard within 4 seconds was acceptable.

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