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Old 30 May 2018, 07:20 AM   #1
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Rolex King Midas Ref. 3580 question

I'v spent days trying to figure this one out, so now I'm here. My most recent purchase a Rolex King Midas ref. 3580. The dial seems a little different compared to other King Midas's I have seen but then again each of them don't ever look 100% the same. Iv been comparing the dials with ref. 9630 and ref. 3580. On mine the swiss is a little higher and the 3rd character on "midas" isn't as pronounced at others. Iv been thinking maybe the dial was refinished due to water damage but the movement looks clean. I haven't been able to determine whether the dial has been untouched.

Anyone have more knowledge on this area of the King Midas that can teach me a thing or two?




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Old 1 June 2018, 01:56 AM   #2
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Bueller buellllerrrr. Calling anyone with knowledge or could point me in the right direction. I'm starting to think its a possibility its just the production date that has the slight change

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Old 1 June 2018, 05:59 AM   #3
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Looks fine to me, Mon has one I believe and he might be able to give you a definitive answer
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Old 1 June 2018, 09:05 AM   #4
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Looks fine to me, Mon has one I believe and he might be able to give you a definitive answer
Thanks! I'll reach out to MonBK.

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Old 10 September 2018, 06:49 AM   #5
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the 3580 & 9630 thanks
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Old 10 September 2018, 08:35 AM   #6
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the 3580 & 9630 thanks
Here's the difference.
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Old 10 September 2018, 09:38 AM   #7
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Here's the difference.
No difference then !
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Old 10 September 2018, 06:08 PM   #8
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No difference then !
ok.
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Old 10 September 2018, 06:50 PM   #9
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OP, fantastic piece. Did this come with the urn and if so pics please.
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Old 10 September 2018, 10:02 PM   #10
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ok.
Are all your posts that helpful !
You post 3 different size photos of three different watches, two of which are slightly out of focus, and expect me to notice the difference.
Itís not supposed to be a quiz.
An explanation would of been very helpful!
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Old 10 September 2018, 10:09 PM   #11
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Are all your posts that helpful !
You post 3 different size photos of three different watches, two of which are slightly out of focus, and expect me to notice the difference.
Itís not supposed to be a quiz.
An explanation would of been very helpful!
We are not all watch makers ⌚️
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Most of the time they are but you said with certainty that there's no difference so I just agreed with you.
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Old 11 September 2018, 12:29 PM   #12
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The hallmarking of 18K on the underside of the case and the color of the text on the movement is different. Those are the two differences I see in MonBK's photos at a glance. Not a Midas expert.
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Old 12 September 2018, 07:07 AM   #13
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The hallmarking of 18K on the underside of the case and the color of the text on the movement is different. Those are the two differences I see in MonBK's photos at a glance. Not a Midas expert.
I too noticed the hallmarks were different on all three photos, but didnít think that alone warranted a model ref number change, I also noted winding crown more pronounced from case but this could be just pulled out.
Not sure about the movement Ď because the photos are not the same size itís hard to compare.
Also noted the caseback sealing o ring in one and not the other.
I have since found out that the ref 3580 is the predecessor of the 9630 original.
Maybe because the 9630 was limited to a 1000 pieces they changed the reference number.
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