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Old 29 March 2019, 02:27 AM   #1
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16753 root beer are at RSC for service need help with decisions

Hi there,
After two months I finally got the thumb out off my....and sent my 16753 Root Beer, 1981, in for service at one of the RSC in my country. I have been dragging my feet with sending it for service since I knew it will come to some hard decisions, but summer is getting closer and we all want a watch that makes you sleep well at night.

So the results I got back after the review are the following:
"The watch is in need of service, gaskets are in very bad condition and needs replacement.

The crown is worn and needs to be replaced

The bezel and insert is worn and have scratches.

The hands have moist damage, change recommended, hands will not match the lume on the dial.

For the customers information the bracelet is 14k gold.

Needed actions(Has to be done to guarantee function):
*service including plexi excluding polish
*New crown

Options:
New hands, bezel and insert
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So after reading this my first reaction was, "not to bad"
Service without polish and new plexi feels like no biggie so all good there.
Bezel and insert I will keep as is of course.

But wooah the crown....I got my nice twinlock and they would put a triplock.
Is this just what RSC wants or is it needed as in really needed?
I will talk with the watchmaker that inspected it tomorrow, but I need to arm myself with some information.
How should I think around the crown issue? Good questions to ask?
Should I try to source a better crown myself?
Should I pull it back?

And the hands, I think it's clear to leave them. I am right in this right?

And the information about that the bracelet is 14k, I thought it was correct with a 14k bracelet so are they just informative or is it wrong?


So many thoughts, all input would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards

Mike
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Old 29 March 2019, 02:36 AM   #2
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Replace the crown and tube: this is the only time (gmt) I recommend this. It would be different if a sub. For GMT is width isn’t different. I had both my 16750s done recently.

Replace the crystal.

Keep the hands as is.
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Old 29 March 2019, 03:00 AM   #3
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They will not replace your Twinloc with a Triploc.

Take the required actions but hold off on the options. You can always have those things changed out whenever needed.

I don't understand the "no polish" mentality now days. I would have the RSC properly refinish the case and bracelet for best results.
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Old 29 March 2019, 08:38 AM   #4
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Replace the crown and tube: this is the only time (gmt) I recommend this. It would be different if a sub. For GMT is width isnít different. I had both my 16750s done recently.

Replace the crystal.

Keep the hands as is.
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They will not replace your Twinloc with a Triploc.

Take the required actions but hold off on the options. You can always have those things changed out whenever needed.

I don't understand the "no polish" mentality now days. I would have the RSC properly refinish the case and bracelet for best results.
Thank you both for super input
I will always be a "pro service" as in general attitude, since keeping them running and in the best shape is always a priority.
But it can also make you shiver, mostly because some FOMO like thoughts or the horrors describe if you get a full Murphy on your hands.

It always great when one can get good input and explainations from veterans.

We will see where I end up tomorrow after discussing the matter. But my genuine feeling after reflection over your answers and how I use it (often) are. Replace crown, crystal, service. Hold on the options for now.

Regarding the twinlock, I will just get a never version of it then? Triplock was introduced quite late for the gmt right? Is it different for submariners?

As for polishing...I get it where you are coming from and I agree.
Myself I am sprung from breitling soil and I never not had a polish when serviced. But Rolex is slightly different and I think that a lot of the fear is based on that "unpolished" is a set standard in many circles and that's what you grow into as a Rolex noob.
In Sweden the polishing paranoia is high, but I feel that many other countries have different and more relaxed attitudes. In the end it's also about if you are collecting mainly or using and rarity.
I might give mine a touch one day but first...lets survive this

Anyhow thanks for your answers and your time.
I will let you know how it went.

Best regards
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Old 29 March 2019, 08:56 AM   #5
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Early Subs were retrofitted with Triplocks, because of the enhanced/perceived water resistance, the GMT has never done this.

Only the latest ceramic version of the GMT has the Triplock, it is not likely to ever be a retrofit option for previous models.
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Old 29 March 2019, 09:00 AM   #6
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Early Subs were retrofitted with Triplocks, because of the enhanced/perceived water resistance, the GMT has never done this.

Only the latest ceramic version of the GMT has the Triplock, it is not likely to ever be a retrofit option for previous models.
Ahh got it, thanks for the explanation
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Old 2 May 2019, 09:00 AM   #7
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Back from service and it all went great, I was a bit nervous but hands and dial are as I left them and she is purring like a cat.
I miss the dash on the crown but hey what can one do...its a keeper.
Thanks for all the solid advice.
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Old 2 May 2019, 09:13 AM   #8
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Good idea not to polish...
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Old 2 May 2019, 10:19 AM   #9
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You made the right decisions.

You asked about the bracelet being 14k, the early 16753ís were 14k so yours must fall into this category. They switched to 18k somewhere in the early 80ís.

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Old 2 May 2019, 10:47 AM   #10
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Very nice piece!
Love the Root Beer w/ nipple dial
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Old 2 May 2019, 11:11 AM   #11
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Wonderful piece! I think you did a great job with your selection of services. Can we see a few more pictures?
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Old 2 May 2019, 12:26 PM   #12
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Wonderful piece! I think you did a great job with your selection of services. Can we see a few more pictures?
I agree. Looks great. Love the RootBeer.

More pics please.
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Old 2 May 2019, 01:59 PM   #13
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Look perfect after service. Enjoy it to the fullest


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Old 3 May 2019, 04:17 AM   #14
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Yes indeed, that is a beauty. Oh, and one other thing I have noticed over the course of my four months on the forum, it's heavily weighted towards Submariners and Pepsi GMTs. Root beer posts are quite rare as the color combo is still somewhat of an anomaly and you either love it or hate'n on it. And, in case you're wondering @Mikespann I have one too. Loving it category! We need a "Show us your root beer thread". @Springer just posted a great "Barn find with DNA" thread with a wonderful example. Yes I am loving that one too Springer, great find.
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Old 3 May 2019, 05:56 AM   #15
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Incredible. Also need to send my 16753 in for service, thank you for sharing your story!
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Old 4 May 2019, 05:55 PM   #16
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Thank you all for your kind words.
For me it was like this. I had 12 ish or so good quality pieces in the collection before, two winders spinning etc
I was happy and but it was always with that invisible shoulder shrug like "naaa it's all ok".
The 1675/3, 16753 had been growing on me for awhile and I could not let it go. So in a bold and somewhat drastic move I sold it all, sourced a 1981 16753, went for it and baam....first time on the wrist I knew, this was it...this is what I have been missing. It felt like an extension of your soul.

Then when it comes to service one always gets a bit nervous.
Even if I actually love servicing watches (it gives me peace of mind and hey I want them to run well) this was different, I imagined it coming back with superluminova all over the place.
That's why I needed a bunch of you told hold my hand when I crossed the bridge this time.=D
And thank you for that.....it saved me a lot of headaches and lack of sleep.

I am out in the bush working for a couple of more days, will give you all some proper pics when I get back.
But I have a few from when it returned.

Enjoy your weekend

Cheers
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:05 AM   #17
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Awesomeness! Love the root beer!
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