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DSplash · 4 May 2019, 02:37 AM

Hi
I’ve spotted this 1016 offered at a pretty low price, sold « as is », supposedly by someone who inherited it and doesn’t know what it is apart being an explorer...

I can’t really see a problem with the dial’s fonts but the indexes look odd, especially the « 6 » looking almost full with a very small hole...What can it be from? Is it a bad relume problem? Or a full fake dial?

Thanks, trying to gain some knowledge here!

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GradyPhilpott · 4 May 2019, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSplash

...offered at a pretty low price, sold « as is », supposedly by someone who inherited it and doesn’t know what it is apart being an explorer....

Those words are the biggest red flags, when it comes to passing off fake watches.

However, there is a chance that it is just a bad re-lume or a fake dial, so the only real way to tell is to get pictures of the movement, or at least a shot from between the lugs, in my humble judgement.

GLADIATOR · 4 May 2019, 04:29 AM

Well its surely NOT original ROLEX
Dial not original, bracelet not fitting
Fake or Franken
N

PRSWILL · 5 May 2019, 04:00 AM

Run Forest run!

LMG1212 · 5 May 2019, 06:36 AM

To be offered at a said "low price" and as an "as is" sale would definitely warrant me suspicion and skepticism as the buyer. Would you really want to sacrifice quality and possibly authenticity to save money? I would be patient, save your money, and buy the one you want while also knowing it is 100% authentic.

Cheers!
Leah

Harry-57 · 5 May 2019, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSplash

inherited it and doesn’t know what it is apart being an explorer...

I think the appropriate wording is "doesn't know what it is".

DSplash · 5 May 2019, 07:15 AM

I really think the guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The initial ad was at a ridiculously low price (for a genuine 1016) around 3k€...I sent him a message with some questions, as others probably did, and the new ad is now at 12,5k

I don’t think he knows he’s selling crap...

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axelbrass · 14 December 2019, 11:40 AM

In my opinion, one tell here is the hands. They're too short. They should reach past the seconds markers, like this picture below from Hoodinkee.

The other thing that bothers me is that the pictures are blurry. Last, to me the Crown logo - the hole is too small and too narrow.

edweather · 14 December 2019, 01:38 PM

Grandpa watch. Run.

Chewbacca · 14 December 2019, 02:01 PM

Nope.

happyrider · 23 December 2019, 02:21 AM

Fake

4 May 2019, 02:37 AM	#1
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Explorer 1016...fake dial or bad relume? Hi I’ve spotted this 1016 offered at a pretty low price, sold « as is », supposedly by someone who inherited it and doesn’t know what it is apart being an explorer... I can’t really see a problem with the dial’s fonts but the indexes look odd, especially the « 6 » looking almost full with a very small hole...What can it be from? Is it a bad relume problem? Or a full fake dial? Thanks, trying to gain some knowledge here! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

4 May 2019, 04:29 AM	#3
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Well its surely NOT original ROLEX Dial not original, bracelet not fitting Fake or Franken N __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

14 December 2019, 01:38 PM	#9
edweather "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: Georgia, USA Watch: Casio Illuminator Posts: 650	Grandpa watch. Run. __________________ An expert under pressure is a drip.

5 May 2019, 04:00 AM	#4
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 246	Run Forest run!

5 May 2019, 06:36 AM	#5
LMG1212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: America Watch: 168623 Posts: 112	To be offered at a said "low price" and as an "as is" sale would definitely warrant me suspicion and skepticism as the buyer. Would you really want to sacrifice quality and possibly authenticity to save money? I would be patient, save your money, and buy the one you want while also knowing it is 100% authentic. Cheers! Leah

5 May 2019, 07:15 AM	#7
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	I really think the guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The initial ad was at a ridiculously low price (for a genuine 1016) around 3k€...I sent him a message with some questions, as others probably did, and the new ad is now at 12,5k I don’t think he knows he’s selling crap... Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

14 December 2019, 11:40 AM	#8
axelbrass "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 63	In my opinion, one tell here is the hands. They're too short. They should reach past the seconds markers, like this picture below from Hoodinkee. The other thing that bothers me is that the pictures are blurry. Last, to me the Crown logo - the hole is too small and too narrow.

14 December 2019, 02:01 PM	#10
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Nope.

23 December 2019, 02:21 AM	#11
happyrider "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: NYC Posts: 4	Fake

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