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Old 17 January 2020, 11:37 PM   #1
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Dropping a Nautilus / Aquanaut hoping to buy

As the title suggests, with the scarcity of sports models at PP, and if one manages to try a watch already allocated to someone in the shop and waiting to be collected, what typically happens if the watch is purposely (with acting of course) dropped on the floor and a dent / scratch results? Would the same watch still be sold to the customer waiting, hoping he doesn't spot the damage?
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Old 17 January 2020, 11:51 PM   #2
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Usually this situation can´t occur as a watch that´s waiting to be picked up by another customer will be waiting for him sealed in the delivery packaging.

Watches that already have been sold or specially ordered for a customer never leave the safe before the actual buyer arrives, at least my AD handles it this way.
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Old 18 January 2020, 12:32 AM   #3
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Thank you Felix. I remember reading some posts about people trying a watch that was destined to another customer thanks to having a good relationship with the shop.

Makes sense to keep the watches in their package / seal.
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Old 18 January 2020, 12:59 AM   #4
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I do not remember what happened when I got my 5712, but recently when I picked up the Aquanaut in the Salon the SA brought the watch in the PP sealed bag and cut the bag in front of me.
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Old 18 January 2020, 02:21 AM   #5
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it can actually vary, My AD lets me look at and hold watches that are already sold. Of course all the stickers/plastic are not to be removed. I'm always super careful with any watch at the AD regardless of whether its been sold or not though.
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Old 18 January 2020, 03:04 AM   #6
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My local AD will let you see a watch destined for another, but wont let you handle it.
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Old 18 January 2020, 03:27 AM   #7
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My AD, which handles PP, JLC, Lange, and IWC among others lets me try on everything. Yesterday the owner brought out a gold 5712 for me to try but it was huge on my wrist, definitely felt larger than 40mm. Of course I am extremely careful.
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Old 18 January 2020, 07:20 PM   #8
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A sealed watch could been dropped at the factory before being sealed. Dropped anytime while at the mother shipped. I doubt if a watch is finished and its dropped Patek would send it out without batting an eye. Hence complaints who's watches were sealed to discover marks on the case or movements that are misbehaving.
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Old 18 January 2020, 08:12 PM   #9
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I do not remember what happened when I got my 5712, but recently when I picked up the Aquanaut in the Salon the SA brought the watch in the PP sealed bag and cut the bag in front of me.
Standard for both my new ones
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Old 18 January 2020, 08:39 PM   #10
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Dropping a Nautilus / Aquanaut hoping to buy

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OP is it your new buy tactique,ask hard to get pieces dropping them on the floor and make an offer to the seller.
Bith harsh but maybe effective

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Old 18 January 2020, 11:11 PM   #11
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This new tactic is interesting I might try it. Will report back. Might have kid Ninja do it.
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Old 18 January 2020, 11:57 PM   #12
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As the title suggests, with the scarcity of sports models at PP, and if one manages to try a watch already allocated to someone in the shop and waiting to be collected, what typically happens if the watch is purposely (with acting of course) dropped on the floor and a dent / scratch results? Would the same watch still be sold to the customer waiting, hoping he doesn't spot the damage?
I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that you would intentionally drop and damage a Patek watch just so you have the chance to purchase it?

Or is that your intent?

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Old 19 January 2020, 12:56 AM   #13
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I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that you would intentionally drop and damage a Patek watch just so you have the chance to purchase it?

Or is that your intent?

Wow
I think that’s what he’s suggesting
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Old 19 January 2020, 12:59 AM   #14
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They are insured. I'm certain they would just get a new one or PP would require them to send it in. Cannot imagine you could get away with then asking for it, that would not go over well.


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Old 19 January 2020, 01:03 AM   #15
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Usually this situation can´t occur as a watch that´s waiting to be picked up by another customer will be waiting for him sealed in the delivery packaging.

Watches that already have been sold or specially ordered for a customer never leave the safe before the actual buyer arrives, at least my AD handles it this way.
+1 to this.
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Old 19 January 2020, 01:17 AM   #16
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Guess I am a little slow but I don’t understand the purpose of this thread , what am I missing??:-))
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Old 19 January 2020, 01:52 AM   #17
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Guess I am a little slow but I don’t understand the purpose of this thread , what am I missing??:-))


OP is trying to figure out a way to cop a nautilus or aquanaut by dropping it, thereby damaging it, just enough to force the AD to sell to him instead of person it is named to. It's wrong on so many levels.


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Old 19 January 2020, 01:53 AM   #18
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OP is trying to figure out a way to cop a nautilus or aquanaut by dropping it, thereby damaging it, just enough to force the AD to sell to him instead of person it is named to. It's wrong on so many levels.


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OP wants to know if he drops someone else’s incoming. Would he get to buy it.

Edit. I was trying to respond to james

What comes to mind is...would it be okay to rob a dead guy
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Old 19 January 2020, 01:55 AM   #19
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OP wants to know if he drops someone else’s incoming. Would he get to buy it.

Edit. I was trying to respond to james

What comes to mind is...would it be okay to rob a dead guy





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Old 19 January 2020, 02:31 AM   #20
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Old 19 January 2020, 02:48 AM   #21
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Someone at Barrett-Jackson could try this approach as an experiment. Put a door ding in that Chiron and see if they’ll sell it to you cheaper.
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Old 19 January 2020, 02:50 AM   #22
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Someone at Barrett-Jackson could try this approach as an experiment. Put a door ding in that Chiron and see if they’ll sell it to you cheaper.





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Old 19 January 2020, 04:12 AM   #23
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OP wants to know if he drops someone else’s incoming. Would he get to buy it.
That's how I got my 458. I just dinged it up a little on the test drive.

Is this what some have come to? The strategy for getting a PP SS piece is to ask to see one, drop it, and hope they then sell it to you?

Still, let's play this craziness out. If that's the plan, you need to make sure of a few things: (a) don't try the watch on over the counter. You need a good drop for this plan to work, and the counter is maybe 1-2 feet above your wrist. The counter is a no-go. This plan needs height, around 5-6 feet to work; (b) absolutely avoid sitting down. If the PP AD offers you a seat for comfort while you try on the watch, don't be a rookie and get sucked in--unless you are planning to fall off the chair. If so, you need involve (c); (c) make sure you are standing over or very nearby to a marble floor. You need to be sure when you drop the watch, or dive off the chair (not forgetting to roll a few times in true Hollywood, "I've been shot" style), the case will get hit the floor and get a good ding. Ideally, you want to aim for 2-3 hits of the watch on the floor to be safe, and see the rotor or mainspring fly out. Thus, avoid carpeted areas at all costs. They'll ruin the plan.; and lastly, (d) have a decent apology on hand for why you dropped the watch, or dove and rolled several times, and offer to fix the watch. Say something like, "shit, I'm sorry I jacked the watch up. The least I can do is repair it, and then keep it afterwards."

Let us know how the plan goes.
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Old 19 January 2020, 04:39 AM   #24
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That's how I got my 458. I just dinged it up a little on the test drive.

Is this what some have come to? The strategy for getting a PP SS piece is to ask to see one, drop it, and hope they then sell it to you?

Still, let's play this craziness out. If that's the plan, you need to make sure of a few things: (a) don't try the watch on over the counter. You need a good drop for this plan to work, and the counter is maybe 1-2 feet above your wrist. The counter is a no-go. This plan needs height, around 5-6 feet to work; (b) absolutely avoid sitting down. If the PP AD offers you a seat for comfort while you try on the watch, don't be a rookie and get sucked in--unless you are planning to fall off the chair. If so, you need involve (c); (c) make sure you are standing over or very nearby to a marble floor. You need to be sure when you drop the watch, or dive off the chair (not forgetting to roll a few times in true Hollywood, "I've been shot" style), the case will get hit the floor and get a good ding. Ideally, you want to aim for 2-3 hits of the watch on the floor to be safe, and see the rotor or mainspring fly out. Thus, avoid carpeted areas at all costs. They'll ruin the plan.; and lastly, (d) have a decent apology on hand for why you dropped the watch, or dove and rolled several times, and offer to fix the watch. Say something like, "shit, I'm sorry I jacked the watch up. The least I can do is repair it, and then keep it afterwards."

Let us know how the plan goes.
A brilliant plan, well thought out and explained succinctly. May I suggest that the OP get ahold of several worthless old watches and perform a few trial runs, dropping the watch on different surfaces from different heights to judge the effects?
Additionally, OP should practice the "drop and roll" wearing roller blade safety gear to avoid injury while perfecting the authenticity of the act.
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Old 19 January 2020, 04:46 AM   #25
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The key is to have a broken nautilus in da pocket for a bait and switch
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Old 19 January 2020, 04:48 AM   #26
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A brilliant plan, well thought out and explained succinctly. May I suggest that the OP get ahold of several worthless old watches and perform a few trial runs, dropping the watch on different surfaces from different heights to judge the effects?
Additionally, OP should practice the "drop and roll" wearing roller blade safety gear to avoid injury while perfecting the authenticity of the act.
Brilliant. I love the finishing touches applied. Simply outstanding.
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Old 19 January 2020, 05:52 AM   #27
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You guys are amatuers... just scratch the bracelet with my keys. Buy the watch for a discount and then buy a new link
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OP wants to know if he drops someone else’s incoming. Would he get to buy it.

Edit. I was trying to respond to james

What comes to mind is...would it be okay to rob a dead guy
Do they have to be dead? What if they're just unconscious or sleeping? Would it be okay to rob them then?
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You guys are amatuers... just scratch the bracelet with my keys. Buy the watch for a discount and then buy a new link
No, too obvious. The idea is to make it look like an accident.
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That’s what I mean !
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