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Old 19 October 2017, 10:15 PM   #31
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I've never driven an auto.
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Old 19 October 2017, 10:26 PM   #32
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I prefer manual for my weekend cars. The traffic in the D.C. Metro area killed my love for rowing through gears.
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Old 20 October 2017, 12:28 AM   #33
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manual if I can get it. the problem is, most cars don't have it.
I have a 2008 boxster stick and a 2013 panamera 4 with pdk (no manual available).
pdk is NOT the same as a manual....you can talk it up like it is, but it isn't.
pano is, in every way, a better car. faster, more comfortable, every luxury you can have.. but its also antiseptic feeling
every time I get in the older car I realize its still the best car ive ever owned.
the stick just makes it come alive...even just around town.
also have 2 Toyotas.. 1978 FJ40 and 2007 sequoia. once again, the new car with the auto is a far far better vehicle.... but there is nothing like rowing the gears with that big, 2ft long shifter on the 78.... even nyc traffic doesn't bother me.
when I replace the sequoia, it will be with a Tacoma 4dr 6 speed manual.
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Old 20 October 2017, 12:44 AM   #34
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Does anyone buy sports cars with manual gearboxes anymore?

I was a super fan of a true manual and they are a blast to drive but the new autos are so much faster. I drove a new 2016 Corvette Z06 with about 100 less rwhp than my C6 and it was faster in the 1/4 4-5 times I ran down the track. There is a reason that all the super/hyper cars got rid of traditional transmissions and F1 cars ditched them 25 years ago. .2-.4 seconds per shift is a big deal.


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Old 20 October 2017, 12:45 AM   #35
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I had to give up manual trans when I lost my right leg. Now I (and my license) are restricted to auto and a left foot accelerator mod. It's a huge BFD to me as the car is a necessary evil to get me from point A to B in reasonable safety and comfort. That's it. It's not a mobile entertainment center or photo studio.
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Old 20 October 2017, 12:47 AM   #36
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I used to be in the group that said “I’d never own an automatic sports car”.

At 43 with a bad back, I’m no longer singing that tune.

I don’t think I’d go back to a manual even if I could.
My thoughts exactly. 48 here.
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Old 20 October 2017, 01:29 AM   #37
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For me it's not about the fastest shifts, most horsepower. It's about driver engagement and the experience behind the wheel. Driven a few Pcars with PDK and there's no doubt that it's a great transmission and certainly faster than I can shift.
Still - manual trans for me all the way. Learned to drive on a 72 Beetle and been driving manual my entire life. So when I decided to treat myself to a midlife crisis there was no question which way to go.
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Old 20 October 2017, 02:38 AM   #38
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I would drive manual if offered. Seems the cars I like always come with a dual clutch automatic. Last manual I had was an Audi RS4 Cabrio, that was a fun car. Over the years, I have had 13 Corvettes and all were manual except 1 and only reason I bought that was it was too good of a deal to pass on.

Was car shopping pretty heavy over the last year. None of the cars I was interested in offered a manual trans.
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Old 20 October 2017, 04:25 AM   #39
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Old 20 October 2017, 04:38 AM   #40
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My '13 Honda Accord has a six-speed.

I'll never own an automatic as long as manuals are still available in the marketplace.

As for sport cars, I don't need one.
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Old 20 October 2017, 04:44 AM   #41
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Dog leg 1st gear , engine breaking clutch slipping just gets the blood pumping at bit more , your part of the car
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Old 20 October 2017, 05:16 AM   #42
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Nothing is more fun than speed-shifting my mom's Hyundai i20
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Old 20 October 2017, 06:30 AM   #43
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I would prefer manual over auto if I didn't spend so much time in traffic.

Traded my Corvette (C6) manual for a Lexus GS350 earlier this year. Used the paddle shifters once or twice in the 5 months that I've had it, but they are just a novelty.
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Old 20 October 2017, 06:50 AM   #44
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Old 20 October 2017, 07:58 AM   #45
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I was a super fan of a true manual and they are a blast to drive but the new autos are so much faster. I drove a new 2016 Corvette Z06 with about 100 less rwhp than my C6 and it was faster in the 1/4 4-5 times I ran down the track. There is a reason that all the super/hyper cars got rid of traditional transmissions and F1 cars ditched them 25 years ago. .2-.4 seconds per shift is a big deal.


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Old 20 October 2017, 08:38 AM   #46
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There is a reason that all the super/hyper cars got rid of traditional transmissions and F1 cars ditched them 25 years ago. .2-.4 seconds per shift is a big deal.
This is very true, for those cars being raced. But this discussion is about street legal cars that will never be raced.

Andreas Preuninger, the head of the Porsche GT program, when introducing the last generation GT3 in a magazine, when criticized that the GT3 would only be PDK (flappy paddles) said "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging" often summarized as "Flappy paddles are for Grandmas" In the current generation GT3, Manuals have been reintroduced, as well as manual only in the 911R and GT4. They didn't do this "not to make money". They did this because of consumer demand. In other words, their customers demanded manuals be reintroduced and they listened to their customers.

So yeah, if you are doing wheel to wheel racing at the highest levels, every microsecond counts. If you are driving legally on the street, its meaningless.

However, the end is near. Its only a matter of time will not only Manuals be gone but driving will be gone. No need for you to touch the wheel. The driving nanny will do it for you.
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Old 20 October 2017, 09:00 AM   #47
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Yes Dodge Challenger Hemi and Six speed. My wife's daily driver.
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Old 20 October 2017, 09:01 AM   #48
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I love a good manual (a Cayman GT4 for example) but man, the PDK is an amazing trans...
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Old 20 October 2017, 10:13 AM   #49
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Yes, a 4-speed. But after driving this around town in stop-and-go traffic, I doubt I would enjoy a 7-speed stick shift anywhere except the track or open road.




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Old 20 October 2017, 10:16 AM   #50
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If available, I'd chose it over automatic any day.

it depends on the car though too. An A8 or S8 or 7 series can totally be automatic. Lean back and cruise.
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Old 20 October 2017, 10:52 AM   #51
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A manual was a must for me until I bought my little VW GTI which has a double-clutch and I've been sold on the technology since. It's fast and entertaining. Don't think I'd ever buy a stick unless it was an older Porsche.
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Old 20 October 2017, 01:00 PM   #52
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I have 2 sports cars right now with manual - my drive home today :)


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Old 20 October 2017, 01:11 PM   #53
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Yes, a 4-speed. But after driving this around town in stop-and-go traffic, I doubt I would enjoy a 7-speed stick shift anywhere except the track or open road.




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I understand the appeal of a stick but given traffic and such I'd rather get my kicks on recreational vehicles off-road.
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Old 20 October 2017, 02:19 PM   #54
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In my garage. 2016 Focus ST. 2017 Corvette Grand Sport. Both Manual.
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Old 20 October 2017, 02:37 PM   #55
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no way i would ever own one with a manual again, long sits in traffic, automatics shift faster, plus in drag racing automatics win in equally modified vehicles... i've had two manual silverados, a manual 3000GT, manual Focus ST (daily driver) i'm looking into ordering a pitch-black hell cat and it will be the 8 speed auto no questions asked.
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Old 20 October 2017, 02:43 PM   #56
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I have always had a manual, because I don't know how to drive an automatic.
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Old 20 October 2017, 02:54 PM   #57
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El-Duderino - thanks for the photo of your beautiful C2.
My favourite American 'muscle car'.
These are in my list of the 10 best looking cars of all time.
They look as good in Convertible form as they do in Coupe.

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Old 20 October 2017, 03:33 PM   #58
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El-Duderino - thanks for the photo of your beautiful C2.
My favourite American 'muscle car'.
These are in my list of the 10 best looking cars of all time.
They look as good in Convertible form as they do in Coupe.



Thanks. I’m biased, but I’d have to agree about it being one of the best looking cars of all time. There really is something about that era of Corvettes that designers just got right.


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The C2 is just unique - nothing else quite like them. Yours is my favourite spec of wheels and bonnet bulge, and it looks absolutely pristine. Only Series 1 E Types, Ferrari Daytona, Maserati Khamsin and Lamborghini Miura embody the same styling flair.
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The C2 is just unique - nothing else quite like them. Yours is my favourite spec of wheels and bonnet bulge, and it looks absolutely pristine. Only Series 1 E Types, Ferrari Daytona, Maserati Khamsin and Lamborghini Miura embody the same styling flair.
Rock you will like this one I took it when in Paris in June not only is the car amazing to get this shot with nothing but the corvette on the Champs Elysees is a miracle......
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