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Old 20 October 2017, 02:36 AM   #1
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I guess I'm a lazy nub

I just saw that a 20 year old finished the Moab 240 endurance run in 86 hours... I thought I was pretty active but now I realised I'm a lazy youngster who needs to train more.... who spends too much time on computer games and TRF

Now, let's quickly do an impulsive action and register for the 2018 Iceland ultramarathon and order some kettlebells so I can't chicken out
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I thought I was pretty active but now I realised I'm a lazy youngster who needs to train more.... who spends too much time on computer games and TRF
There's no need to feel that way Bas. Your personal commitment to individual fitness/training/competition far exceeds the average person's endeavors. By keeping your personal interests and activities 'in balance' you have afforded yourself the opportunity to be a well-rounded individual.

There are a lot of athletes (both amateur and professional) who despite their rigorous training and record-breaking accomplishments never live to see 80 or 90 years of age. I've got this personal theory that the human heart has only X amount of heartbeats (kind of like a watch) prior to shutting down. While I'm not advocating a sloth-like existence, there's no need to overdo it. You're right on track.
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There's no need to feel that way Bas. Your personal commitment to individual fitness/training/competition far exceeds the average person's endeavors. By keeping your personal interests and activities 'in balance' you have afforded yourself the opportunity to be a well-rounded individual.

There are a lot of athletes (both amateur and professional) who despite their rigorous training and record-breaking accomplishments never live to see 80 or 90 years of age. I've got this personal theory that the human heart has only X amount of heartbeats (kind of like a watch) prior to shutting down. While I'm not advocating a sloth-like existence, there's no need to overdo it. You're right on track.
I'd rather live to 60-70 and do things I love than live to 90 and regret not doing those things.
These insane long trail runs is a personal dream of me, I'd imagine that would give a very powerful feeling upon completion.

During my marathon two weeks ago I saw all kinds of people, so it's not 'extreme' enough anymore. Sure I'll run them to improve time, but I will never be a fast one. Ultras are getting more popular but are still batshit crazy to even most marathon runners, that is also why it's so interesting to me.

The Iceland ultra is 55k, which I think is a good start to get into ultras. The only thing that worries me is the terrain and the fact that it's self sufficient.

I need to gain muscle strength (hence the kettle bells) and gain a few pounds of muscle and fat.
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do it!

i might be there too, Bas. but i'll be in the hot springs with beer.
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do it!

i might be there too, Bas. but i'll be in the hot springs with beer.
I'll be there too, after the run
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we'll need a keg in that case.
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we'll need a keg in that case.
A keg sounds fine, nothing is better than a little hydration.
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I sometimes watch the London marathon on TV, I get a sweat on just watching.

Theres an Ultra in Amazon jungle, 254km, thick forest, swamps, snakes, crocs and killer insects.

www.junglemarathon.com
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I'd rather live to 60-70 and do things I love than live to 90 and regret not doing those things.
On the other hand, how about living to 90 with no real regrets? By lowering one's bar (in terms of projected/aspiring personal achievements) this outcome is potentially attainable barring any disruptive genetic, health and/or environmental factors. Add accident/injury factors into the equation and the overall picture gets even bleaker. I've never quite understood 'free-climbers' who elect to scale rocks/mountains with no direct-aid. The only time the average person hears of them is when they perish.

I was reading in today's SF Chronicle that Dwight Clark (aged 60) will be honored by the 49ers this weekend for his historic 'Catch' in the 1981 Dallas-SF play-offs. He now has ALS and is terminal. Lou Gehrig (for whom the disease is named after) only lived to be 37 despite a record-breaking HOF MLB career.

While fame and record-setting achievements are noteworthy accomplishments, sometimes it's better to be an unrecognizable and underachieving 'Joe Blow' with optimum long-term health prospects as newspaper headlines and team 'high-fives' are soon forgotten and overlooked by younger generations (aka Millennials).

While I'm not advocating being a 'slacker', I've never been one to bite off more than I could chew. As a result, my accomplishments are somewhat meager and insignificant.
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I sometimes watch the London marathon on TV, I get a sweat on just watching.

Theres an Ultra in Amazon jungle, 254km, thick forest, swamps, snakes, crocs and killer insects.

www.junglemarathon.com
I'd be scared to get bit by something deadly at every step, no thanks Don't think my heart can survive 254km of running with fear
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I just saw that a 20 year old finished the Moab 240 endurance run in 86 hours... I thought I was pretty active but now I realised I'm a lazy youngster who needs to train more.... who spends too much time on computer games and TRF

Now, let's quickly do an impulsive action and register for the 2018 Iceland ultramarathon and order some kettlebells so I can't chicken out

Today is a perfect day to start!
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I'd rather live to 60-70 and do things I love than live to 90 and regret not doing those things.

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This is the right answer. No regrets Bas.

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On the other hand, how about living to 90 with no real regrets? By lowering one's bar (in terms of projected/aspiring personal achievements) this outcome is potentially attainable barring any disruptive genetic, health and/or environmental factors. Add accident/injury factors into the equation and the overall picture gets even bleaker. I've never quite understood 'free-climbers' who elect to scale rocks/mountains with no direct-aid. The only time the average person hears of them is when they perish.

Wrong answer. Unless you consider participation awards to be real achievements, pushing yourself in your endeavors is always more fulfilling than some half ass effort just to say you did it.
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I had to look that one up Bas. Apparently a 32 year old woman who's a school teacher from colorado won it with a time just under 58 hours! Don't these people need sleep ��
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I see your point Bass. I admire the Triathlon guys myself as i have trained for that doing one or two at a time never all three together. It does need commitment to make it to the finish on either MOAB or a triathlon Ironman challenge. Respect to the guys who have done those.
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It's just my humble opinion, but I just googled Moab 240 and some of those guys don't look too healthy to me...


I know I'm lazy and overweight and I celebrate when I reach 10k steps in a day...anyway, I'll start doing more exercise.

Please don't get me wrong, I know it's an achievement to do triathlons, marathons, spartan races, etc. and I respect that, but I agree with Mr. Cavendish.

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A youtuber that I've been following uploaded his race experience. These type of video's offer good information on gear, food and pace.

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This is the right answer. No regrets Bas.



Wrong answer. Unless you consider participation awards to be real achievements, pushing yourself in your endeavors is always more fulfilling than some half ass effort just to say you did it.
Right and wrong is based on a certain perspective. Only each individual can decide what is right, or wrong for them.


Curious though, why do you have such a hard on for BC? It seems like you follow him from thread to thread, picking apart his comments and bullying him?
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It's just my humble opinion, but I just googled Moab 240 and some of those guys don't look too healthy to me...


I know I'm lazy and overweight and I celebrate when I reach 10k steps in a day...anyway, I'll start doing more exercise.

Please don't get me wrong, I know it's an achievement to do triathlons, marathons, spartan races, etc. and I respect that, but I agree with Mr. Cavendish.

I agree with BC as well.

I’ll use CrossFit as my example.

I used to go at 75% all the time. I enjoyed the activity very much. I enjoyed the competition and the feeling of exhaustion after a workout. I enjoyed going everyday.

I then had an over 40 competition coming up and started training harder and went all out. In one week I hit three personal records in different lifting movements.

I was out of commission for two weeks afterwards.

That ultimately set me on a the path to back surgery.

Nothing wrong with enjoying the experience.

Sadly, I’ll never enjoy CrossFit again.

About to go and rock out on my elliptical. Happy Sunday all.
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BC has a point. I've read that serial marathoners have shorter lifespans (vs. healthy people who do more moderate exercise) and frequently have scarring on their heart tissue. As for ultra-marathons, I would assume they are even riskier than standard-length marathons.

That's not to say Bas or anyone else should stop doing them. But I don't see an issue with mentioning the health risks involved.

Another problem IMO is that endurance & obstacle races are big business, and organizers have a vested interest in growing participation. But do they care about the well-being of the people who run in them? Take a look at this death during a "Tough Mudder" (founded by a Harvard MBA) race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0gYU7uBcE
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Hey Bas,

Has BC asked you to send the money yet?

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Curious though, why do you have such a hard on for BC? It seems like you follow him from thread to thread, picking apart his comments and bullying him?
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BC has a point. I've read that serial marathoners have shorter lifespans (vs. healthy people who do more moderate exercise) and frequently have scarring on their heart tissue. As for ultra-marathons, I would assume they are even riskier than standard-length marathons.

That's not to say Bas or anyone else should stop doing them. But I don't see an issue with mentioning the health risks involved.

Another problem IMO is that endurance & obstacle races are big business, and organizers have a vested interest in growing participation. But do they care about the well-being of the people who run in them? Take a look at this death during a "Tough Mudder" (founded by a Harvard MBA) race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0gYU7uBcE
A similar death happened during one of those obstacle courses here in the Netherlands a few months ago.
The woman was already dead before she was found. Very sad. But as with anything, accidents happen and there is not much you can do about it.

I'm certainly aware of the fact that running marathons/ultramarathons isn't a healthy thing to do, but I consider that the price to pay for a life well lived.

I'm still young (23) with only two marathons under my belt, we'll see how far I can get in this hobby. I just really like running and combining it with a beautiful trail (iceland, moab, etc) is a 'grail'.
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You are using someones statement of opinion, to justify your own statement of opinion?
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You are using someones statement of opinion, to justify your own statement of opinion?
Even more disturbing....

He quoted a famous packers coach and he's a bear fan!
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