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Old 9 August 2020, 12:25 AM   #31
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I dont have to repeat myself this is a simple fact of RSC service, and if you cannot get this simple fact its a waste of time talking to you,and if you can read I stated sometimes crowns are changed to..
You just did lol. And no matter how many times you keep repeating it, it's still not a fact.

more a fact than when you fir

If you can't back up your posts with solid evidence, maybe stick to opinining on the football where everyone can be right lol.
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Old 9 August 2020, 12:42 AM   #32
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You just did lol. And no matter how many times you keep repeating it, it's still not a fact.

more a fact than when you fir

If you can't back up your posts with solid evidence, maybe stick to opinining on the football where everyone can be right lol.
One rule I always follow is I never get into an argument with an idiot -as you just lower yourself to their level and they will beat you with there experience.
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Old 9 August 2020, 01:58 AM   #33
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You just did lol. And no matter how many times you keep repeating it, it's still not a fact.

more a fact than when you fir

If you can't back up your posts with solid evidence, maybe stick to opinining on the football where everyone can be right lol.

Wow. His tenure here at TRF didn’t last long, LOL.

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Old 9 August 2020, 02:17 AM   #34
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A crown tube is a standard replacement, unless it is gold then you're charged extra.

I'm an RSC watchmaker, hopefully that is enough proof for you...
Just curious. I have an 116618. How much is the crown tube replacement?
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Old 9 August 2020, 02:35 AM   #35
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Just curious. I have an 116618. How much is the crown tube replacement?
Don't have access to the system right now but I believe an 18k triplock tube is €75ish. The standard one (type 24-5330-8 for DJ, DD, etc is €40).
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Old 9 August 2020, 02:51 AM   #36
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Don't have access to the system right now but I believe an 18k triplock tube is €75ish. The standard one (type 24-5330-8 for DJ, DD, etc is €40).


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When you are evaluating the crown and tube condition, what are the key factors toward recommending a crown also be replaced?
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Old 9 August 2020, 02:55 AM   #37
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For the OP I have seen them stripped on a watch before possibly from aggressive over tightening. The modern watch it can be easily replaced on something vintage may not be the case so my advice is to always be careful and gentle to apply just enough torque to the threads and if it isn't staring to engage the threads when first screwing it down, don't force it, have it checked out.
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Old 9 August 2020, 03:02 AM   #38
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Wow. His tenure here at TRF didn’t last long, LOL.
True enough!

Felt just about right to me - a jackwagon in his first set of posts.

I didn’t mind his overt self-backslapping for replacing a tube. I didn’t mind that he bumped a 3-month old thread to publicly self-gratify himself.

But then reaching back 3-months, without the need to do so, just to whack a Mod for a comment not even directed to himself was a sign of the jackal. And continued personal aggressive rejoinders just ruins the pleasant vibe here.

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Old 9 August 2020, 05:22 AM   #39
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I just check how good it still works, then decide whether it needs a new crown as well. Or check the threads with a loupe on a good tube.

Then the crown also gets the replacement option if the scratches/dents cannot be removed during polishing.

For my own Rolex I will probably replace the crown every single time (yes the platinum one), just peace of mind.
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Old 9 August 2020, 05:37 AM   #41
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Overthinking it, dont forget there were thousands of Rolex manual wind Rolex they got wound up daily for decades with screw down crowns.Plus the fact that crown tubes are just normal serviceable disposable items, that are always replaced as part of normal routine service.
I’m more than happy to take your advice on crown tubes, if it stretches to Breitling (sorry to go a bit off topic).

I believe the Avenger Seawolf’s crown tube is attached to the mid case. As such if it is stripped down the whole mid case is replaced (presumably a far more expensive repair).

Is there anything else that could be done by a competent watch repairer, rather than replacing the whole mid case as Breitling apparently do?
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I’m more than happy to take your advice on crown tubes, if it stretches to Breitling (sorry to go a bit off topic).

I believe the Avenger Seawolf’s crown tube is attached to the mid case. As such if it is stripped down the whole mid case is replaced (presumably a far more expensive repair).

Is there anything else that could be done by a competent watch repairer, rather than replacing the whole mid case as Breitling apparently do?
Sorry cannot help you on Breitling tubes.

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True enough!

Felt just about right to me - a jackwagon in his first set of posts.

I didn’t mind his overt self-backslapping for replacing a tube. I didn’t mind that he bumped a 3-month old thread to publicly self-gratify himself.

But then reaching back 3-months, without the need to do so, just to whack a Mod for a comment not even directed to himself was a sign of the jackal. And continued personal aggressive rejoinders just ruins the pleasant vibe here.

Jackals have about a 1-week half-life methinks.



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What got to me he was told twice in thread by a RSC watchmaker Bas that the tubes were changed, as well as myself he had to go.
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Old 9 August 2020, 05:33 PM   #43
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I thought you showed amazing restraint Peter.
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I thought you showed amazing restraint Peter.
Yes agree but enough is enough my patience had ended.
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I’m more than happy to take your advice on crown tubes, if it stretches to Breitling (sorry to go a bit off topic).



I believe the Avenger Seawolf’s crown tube is attached to the mid case. As such if it is stripped down the whole mid case is replaced (presumably a far more expensive repair).



Is there anything else that could be done by a competent watch repairer, rather than replacing the whole mid case as Breitling apparently do?


Maybe PM Fleetlord here on TRF. He had the unenviable experience of the problem you’re worried about.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=510904

A watchmaker could drill out the threaded section of the midcase, then find a tube size (s/he will likely have to go to the next size up). The new hole will be tapped, which cuts threads into the midcase metal. Then find a generic crown with the correct thread pitch and o-ring so you get some semblance of water resistance.

The reason this shouldn’t be done is the titanium and the new generic tube’s metal may start a galvanic response that eventually pits the midcase.


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Maybe PM Fleetlord here on TRF. He had the unenviable experience of the problem you’re worried about.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=510904

A watchmaker could drill out the threaded section of the midcase, then find a tube size (s/he will likely have to go to the next size up). The new hole will be tapped, which cuts threads into the midcase metal. Then find a generic crown with the correct thread pitch and o-ring so you get some semblance of water resistance.

The reason this shouldn’t be done is the titanium and the new generic tube’s metal may start a galvanic response that eventually pits the midcase.


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I. . .

Is there anything else that could be done by a competent watch repairer, rather than replacing the whole mid case as Breitling apparently do?
You should have your own thread as this will likely be lost in the original topic.

As to stripped threads in the case, yes a manufacturer would likely replace the mid case.

However, a craftsman would carefully drill out the stripped threads and either press in, or loctite in, a plug. The plug would then be drilled out and tapped with the appropriate threads to once again accept a standard tube.
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Don't have access to the system right now but I believe an 18k triplock tube is €75ish. The standard one (type 24-5330-8 for DJ, DD, etc is €40).
If the case tube is 18K on my 116618, is there are a pressed in steel insert inside the 18K monobloc crown? The crown threads must be of a different material than the case tube?
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If the case tube is 18K on my 116618, is there are a pressed in steel insert inside the 18K monobloc crown? The crown threads must be of a different material than the case tube?
No, they are the same material. Gold thread on gold thread.
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Old 10 August 2020, 09:06 AM   #51
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No, they are the same material. Gold thread on gold thread.
Wow, surprising. Thanks.
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Yes, I also learnt something.

I thought the threads were SS inside a gold module.

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Yes, I also learnt something.

I thought the threads were SS inside a gold module.

Tks Bas.
They used to be like that. But now their completely made of gold.
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I didn’t even get a chance to welcome him to the forum

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