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benzng · 24 June 2018, 06:33 PM

Hi all,

From this link I read that

http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/red-sub/redsub.html

Red Submariner Dial Varieties and Case Numbers

The Red Submariner was produced with 7 different dial versions that have been recognized by the collector community. I have estimated the production range based on my experience with these watches as follows:

Mark I (Meters First) 2.07M to 2.2M

Mark II/III (Meters First) 2.2M to 2.45M

Mark IV (Open “6” Feet First) 2.45M to 3.?M

Mark V (Open “6” Feet First) 2.?M to 3.?M

Mark VI (Closed “6” Feet First) 3.?M to 4.0M

Mark VII (White Submariner) 4.0m to 7M+

Mark VIII (Luminova) Red Sub Service Dial

I found a 3.00XXXXX single red sub with a Mark 6 dial. is this ok or it should be the Mark 5 dial?

thanks

lee fowler · 24 June 2018, 06:59 PM

I would say either will be ok as there will be some overlap.

Gina Marie · 24 June 2018, 07:36 PM

No hard or fast serial number cut offs. I have seen mark 4s in cases as low as 2.36. I have seen a few in 2.38s. The list you have referenced from was based on an article written few years ago. Many cases have popped up since then to call the article's guidelines into question. Use these guidelines like a drunk uses a lamppost....for support but not guidance. So, yes it is likely ok.

springer · 25 June 2018, 02:19 AM

Although the red Sub tables are a guide, they are fairly accurate so I would use them more like a sober person about to drink his first beer!

If you notice the serial number range for the Mark VI - Mark VI (Closed “6” Feet First) 3.?M to 4.0M - the earliest ones are in the 3 million range with some uncertainty when they first started to appear. They way I interpret the data, Mark V or Mark VI would be correct.

Chunky · 25 June 2018, 02:39 AM

For reference, my Mk V is a 3.3 million

Chunky · 25 June 2018, 02:49 AM

Here's a photo

benzng · 25 June 2018, 09:07 AM

thanks guys for all the info. guess its my next watch :)

southtexas · 25 June 2018, 02:12 PM

For what it’s worth, I have a Mk 4 with a 2.95 mil serial and IV.70 Caseback.

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007Sub · 26 June 2018, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southtexas

For what it’s worth, I have a Mk 4 with a 2.95 mil serial and IV.70 Caseback.

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Same. 2.9 mil IV.70 caseback.

tattooedfagin · 28 June 2018, 06:42 AM

My MK 4 is a 3.7, was told that due to the flaky red paint on the MK 5 dial Rolex may have reverted to a MK 4 dial briefly

watchtabs · 28 June 2018, 06:45 AM

Just make sure you get it well tested before taking it into water. Enjoy!!!

24 June 2018, 06:33 PM	#1
benzng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Benson Location: ASIA Posts: 264	1680 single red question Hi all, From this link I read that http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/red-sub/redsub.html Red Submariner Dial Varieties and Case Numbers The Red Submariner was produced with 7 different dial versions that have been recognized by the collector community. I have estimated the production range based on my experience with these watches as follows: Mark I (Meters First) 2.07M to 2.2M Mark II/III (Meters First) 2.2M to 2.45M Mark IV (Open “6” Feet First) 2.45M to 3.?M Mark V (Open “6” Feet First) 2.?M to 3.?M Mark VI (Closed “6” Feet First) 3.?M to 4.0M Mark VII (White Submariner) 4.0m to 7M+ Mark VIII (Luminova) Red Sub Service Dial I found a 3.00XXXXX single red sub with a Mark 6 dial. is this ok or it should be the Mark 5 dial? thanks

24 June 2018, 06:59 PM	#2
lee fowler 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 2,508	I would say either will be ok as there will be some overlap. __________________ Instagram: @lee1563

25 June 2018, 02:19 AM	#4
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,197	Although the red Sub tables are a guide, they are fairly accurate so I would use them more like a sober person about to drink his first beer! If you notice the serial number range for the Mark VI - Mark VI (Closed “6” Feet First) 3.?M to 4.0M - the earliest ones are in the 3 million range with some uncertainty when they first started to appear. They way I interpret the data, Mark V or Mark VI would be correct. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

25 June 2018, 02:39 AM	#5
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	For reference, my Mk V is a 3.3 million __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

25 June 2018, 02:12 PM	#8
southtexas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,684	For what it’s worth, I have a Mk 4 with a 2.95 mil serial and IV.70 Caseback. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

24 June 2018, 07:36 PM	#3
Gina Marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Baby! Posts: 1,068	No hard or fast serial number cut offs. I have seen mark 4s in cases as low as 2.36. I have seen a few in 2.38s. The list you have referenced from was based on an article written few years ago. Many cases have popped up since then to call the article's guidelines into question. Use these guidelines like a drunk uses a lamppost....for support but not guidance. So, yes it is likely ok.

25 June 2018, 09:07 AM	#7
benzng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Benson Location: ASIA Posts: 264	thanks guys for all the info. guess its my next watch :)

28 June 2018, 06:42 AM	#10
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	My MK 4 is a 3.7, was told that due to the flaky red paint on the MK 5 dial Rolex may have reverted to a MK 4 dial briefly __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

28 June 2018, 06:45 AM	#11
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	Just make sure you get it well tested before taking it into water. Enjoy!!! __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

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