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Alf_flash · 22 June 2018, 04:10 AM

Hello friends... i need your help. Im being offered this rare NOS double red dial. The owner wants 9k for it. I dont intend to sell it if bought. Im looking for an investment. Should i buy it ?

Picture attached.

Thank you !!!

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05carbondrz · 22 June 2018, 05:16 AM

Why buy a Dial for a Watch You don’t have? I just don’t see much fun in buying a Dial to sit in the safe,But to each his own.

J!m · 22 June 2018, 05:19 AM

Well, it's not NOS for one thing. The minute track shows it has been installed in a watch.

That said, it does look quite nice, and showing it was mounted helps ease the knee-jerk that it could be a reproduction...

9 grand? Damn. I guess that's reasonable?

Does he have a Mk V red 1680 dial in similar condition for MUCH less money?

andromeda160 · 22 June 2018, 06:12 AM

If all is original I’d imgagine that it’s more than a fair price considering what it adds to a non period correct watch

Haywood_Milton · 22 June 2018, 06:15 AM

The picture isn't pin-sharp but I am inclined to think that this is a correct Mark IV DRSD dial.

It's not NOS.

If correct, it would be worth most to someone with a period correct DRSD that has been fitted with a later, white text service dial. Fitting a later watch with a double red dial would not increase its value so much, for one would simply have created a great white fitted with an older, incorrect dial and worth no more than the sum of its parts.

Proceed with caution. These are worth faking and the quality will grow only better. I wouldn't part with my money unless I'd had better photos or (always so much better) the watch under my own loupe.

Haywood

roh123 · 22 June 2018, 06:40 AM

Sounds like a reasonable deal if you need it. As investment it might be okey even though I find it odd. Not necessarily easy to sell for retail when you want to realize it.

Might be worth as a project though. A lot of nice examples around with later dial. I would personally only consider buying it if I had, or knew of, a watch that needed it.

Alf_flash · 22 June 2018, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

The picture isn't pin-sharp but I am inclined to think that this is a correct Mark IV DRSD dial.

It's not NOS.

If correct, it would be worth most to someone with a period correct DRSD that has been fitted with a later, white text service dial. Fitting a later watch with a double red dial would not increase its value so much, for one would simply have created a great white fitted with an older, incorrect dial and worth no more than the sum of its parts.

Proceed with caution. These are worth faking and the quality will grow only better. I wouldn't part with my money unless I'd had better photos or (always so much better) the watch under my own loupe.

Haywood

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J!m · 22 June 2018, 07:13 AM

I've seen a LOT of repro dials and this appears to be genuine to me.

If it's a fake, it is far and away, the best one ever. There are a few key tells that I always look for and this dial passes every "acid" test I have.

But as mentioned above, I wouldn't buy it unless I needed it.

Tom1675 · 22 June 2018, 09:20 AM

at 9k there are more complete options, 16800 comes to mind...

andromeda160 · 22 June 2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

at 9k there are more complete options, 16800 comes to mind...

Not even the same model?

omitohud · 22 June 2018, 01:06 PM

It looks authentic to me. Even though I don’t intentionally collect Rolex parts, I do have many of them and understand why it appeals to some.

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Xantiagib · 22 June 2018, 07:49 PM

"I dont intend to sell it if bought. Im looking for an investment."

bit of an oxymoron there but hey - If the cap fits wear it as they say

greekbum · 22 June 2018, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf_flash

Hello friends... i need your help. Im being offered this rare NOS double red dial. The owner wants 9k for it. I dont intend to sell it if bought. Im looking for an investment. Should i buy it ?

Picture attached.

Thank you !!!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If your looking to invest in things you don’t know much about the answer is no imho.

Vincent65 · 22 June 2018, 10:26 PM

not the best 'investment' imo

Tom1675 · 23 June 2018, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Not even the same model?

suggesting a complete watch as opposed to only a dial, you can get a matte example 16800 for around 9k...at least it can be enjoyed.

Autavian · 23 June 2018, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekbum

If your looking to invest in things you don’t know much about the answer is no imho.

Like Nick said+1

Donaldkrama · 23 June 2018, 05:29 AM

Why would you buy a dial without the watch for it to be in a safe?

enginerd · 26 June 2018, 12:36 AM

If you don't intend to sell it, how is it an investment?

22 June 2018, 04:10 AM	#1
Alf_flash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Usa Posts: 179	Double Red Dial NOS Hello friends... i need your help. Im being offered this rare NOS double red dial. The owner wants 9k for it. I dont intend to sell it if bought. Im looking for an investment. Should i buy it ? Picture attached. Thank you !!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 June 2018, 06:15 AM	#5
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	The picture isn't pin-sharp but I am inclined to think that this is a correct Mark IV DRSD dial. It's not NOS. If correct, it would be worth most to someone with a period correct DRSD that has been fitted with a later, white text service dial. Fitting a later watch with a double red dial would not increase its value so much, for one would simply have created a great white fitted with an older, incorrect dial and worth no more than the sum of its parts. Proceed with caution. These are worth faking and the quality will grow only better. I wouldn't part with my money unless I'd had better photos or (always so much better) the watch under my own loupe. Haywood __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

22 June 2018, 06:40 AM	#6
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Sounds like a reasonable deal if you need it. As investment it might be okey even though I find it odd. Not necessarily easy to sell for retail when you want to realize it. Might be worth as a project though. A lot of nice examples around with later dial. I would personally only consider buying it if I had, or knew of, a watch that needed it. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

22 June 2018, 10:26 PM	#14
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	not the best 'investment' imo __________________

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22 June 2018, 05:16 AM	#2
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	Why buy a Dial for a Watch You don’t have? I just don’t see much fun in buying a Dial to sit in the safe,But to each his own.

22 June 2018, 05:19 AM	#3
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,813	Well, it's not NOS for one thing. The minute track shows it has been installed in a watch. That said, it does look quite nice, and showing it was mounted helps ease the knee-jerk that it could be a reproduction... 9 grand? Damn. I guess that's reasonable? Does he have a Mk V red 1680 dial in similar condition for MUCH less money?

22 June 2018, 06:12 AM	#4
andromeda160 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Greg Location: michigan Watch: Rolex Oyster Posts: 4,046	If all is original I’d imgagine that it’s more than a fair price considering what it adds to a non period correct watch

22 June 2018, 07:13 AM	#8
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,813	I've seen a LOT of repro dials and this appears to be genuine to me. If it's a fake, it is far and away, the best one ever. There are a few key tells that I always look for and this dial passes every "acid" test I have. But as mentioned above, I wouldn't buy it unless I needed it.

22 June 2018, 09:20 AM	#9
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,172	at 9k there are more complete options, 16800 comes to mind...

22 June 2018, 01:06 PM	#11
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	It looks authentic to me. Even though I don’t intentionally collect Rolex parts, I do have many of them and understand why it appeals to some. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 June 2018, 07:49 PM	#12
Xantiagib "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 203	"I dont intend to sell it if bought. Im looking for an investment." bit of an oxymoron there but hey - If the cap fits wear it as they say

23 June 2018, 05:29 AM	#17
Donaldkrama Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Usa Posts: 103	Why would you buy a dial without the watch for it to be in a safe?

26 June 2018, 12:36 AM	#18
enginerd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Nathan Location: Denver, CO Watch: Too many Posts: 1,008	If you don't intend to sell it, how is it an investment?

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