ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
11 September 2017, 07:07 PM | #1 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HK
Posts: 5
|
Help!! ROO Team Alinghi 26062 Carbon
Hi guys,
New to this forum and never won an AP in my life. Happened to see someone selling the ROO Alinghi Carbon and wondering if some experienced folks here can get me some guidance. 1) What's the upside and downside for having a Carbon ROO 2) How bad does this watch depreciate its value, worth buying this versus a brand new ROO? 3) Is this worth buying and what's a reasonable price range for this 4) I saw on forum saying carbon bazel is not recommended given it can be dented quite easily, is that mean i shouldn't be buying one online? 5) Most importantly, what is the difference between the ones with Red/White Alinghi logo and those only in Red? Wish someone here can give me some expertise as i basically know nothing about AP watches. Thanks for your help! |
11 September 2017, 08:03 PM | #2 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 17,622
|
Quote:
I would start by going to an AD and trying on watches and to see what sizes and materials appeal to you most. Then select a watch either new from an AD or slightly used from a reputable seller who also can provide the service history as knowing that is essential to buying used.
__________________
Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition) |
|
11 September 2017, 10:57 PM | #3 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,242
|
I agree, altho this is not a well faked model I would start on a current prod model that you can try on at an ADs.
|
12 September 2017, 12:52 AM | #4 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N/A
Posts: 3,629
|
It has some significance as the first forged carbon watch that AP presented, and AP has since discontinued the use of forged carbon.
My understanding is that the forged carbon on these models was not as good as later models, the case was more susceptible to wear and flaking. I also remember back in the day the discussion around the "white frame" and "no frame" Alinghi logos - the "white frame" ones were declared to be rarer than the "no frame" ones and were traded at a premium. If you are to buy one, I'd be very picky about the service history, condition of the carbon and the PVD caseback/buckle. I've seen quite a few ones that look in really bad shape., the bezels are all rounded. Also, the market for these seem to have significantly softened - I remember back in the day when they were released they were trading for huge premiums (north of $30K used, close to $40K BNIB). Since then I've seen pieces as low as $17.5K (condition questionable), to north of $30K for NOS. If you buy a good condition one on the lower end of this range your downside will be limited - but it may be hard to find a buyer for this piece. I also think it looks best on ceramic plots with a black hornback/red stitching: |
12 September 2017, 01:16 AM | #5 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Mars
Watch: 5712
Posts: 11,509
|
Not the first AP I would get... and as I understand the FC back then was not great at all...
|
12 September 2017, 01:49 AM | #6 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: San Fran
Posts: 2,214
|
Nice and Congratulations
|
12 September 2017, 02:44 AM | #7 |
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 842
|
The alinghi is pretty awesome. When I first got into AP, I jumped to this watch. But it's not worth getting.
As everyone else has said, the carbon on this model sucked. It flakes off, the bezel is crap, the resale market for it DIED. I wouldn't even say it softened, it's practically dead unless you give the watch away. If you want carbon go for the Carbon ROO ceramic. It's a better way to get into the FC AP world. Anything else is over 100k currently. |
12 September 2017, 03:02 AM | #8 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N/A
Posts: 3,629
|
Quote:
I would take either of those many times over the FC Alinghi, especially the Ginza. |
|
13 September 2017, 04:21 PM | #9 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HK
Posts: 5
|
Hi guys, quite surprise how helpful you guys are and appreciate all the informative comments!!!
sounds like this is not something I should consider as a newbie and especially when i am buying online without knowing the condition of the watch. Will give up that idea and start researching on the above mentioned. Thanks to everyone for your help! Much appreciated! |
13 September 2017, 04:25 PM | #10 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HK
Posts: 5
|
Quote:
Am always thinking about limited edition, not necessary to be FC. I actually like the ceramic even better but there are constraints to my budget unfortunately :) I really like the Grand Prix but will it have the same potential wear and tear problem like the Alinghi in consider it is also made by FC? |
|
13 September 2017, 05:04 PM | #11 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Real Name: Mike
Location: Socal
Watch: AP/PP/Rolex
Posts: 1,781
|
Probably a good idea to start with a different piece for your first AP...
__________________
PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk /Daytona C White/Rolex SS BLRO / Rolex Sub Green / Rolex Explorer II/ Rolex DJ Blue |
13 September 2017, 06:32 PM | #12 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Miami
Posts: 92
|
i am personally not a fan if you want a FC watch i would go with the jarno
|
13 September 2017, 06:37 PM | #13 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Miami
Posts: 92
|
|
13 September 2017, 10:20 PM | #14 | |
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 842
|
Quote:
And, I just don't like the carbon diver (because of the yellow) so I didn't mention it lol. |
|
13 September 2017, 11:26 PM | #15 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: AP
Posts: 3,825
|
|
13 September 2017, 11:42 PM | #16 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N/A
Posts: 3,629
|
Quote:
However, I'd recommend the Trulli if you can find one. The combination of different materials (Cermet, FC, titanium), textures (FC patterning, RO finishing on the bezel, sandblasted caseback/pushers/crown/plots) and tones on it is simply stunning: |
|
14 September 2017, 11:04 AM | #17 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: AP
Posts: 3,825
|
Quote:
|
|
14 September 2017, 11:40 AM | #18 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HK
Posts: 5
|
|
14 September 2017, 04:28 PM | #19 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Andreas
Location: Margaritaville
Watch: Smurf
Posts: 19,879
|
FC is probably my favourite AP material, but I'm not that into this model. And FC as a bezel material is not the best at it tends to chip and flake. Most likely the reason that other FC models had Ceramic bezels such as the Bumblebee and FC Diver.
For your first piece I'd go with something more "mainstream".
__________________
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
22 November 2017, 06:25 PM | #20 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HK
Posts: 5
|
Hi guys,
I was able to find a TRULLI in mint condition locally and thinking to pull the trigger. May I have some comments from experts here the reasonable (in favor to buyer of course) price for this? Thanks guys!! |
23 November 2017, 03:57 AM | #21 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
|
Quote:
I miss Jem7v and his ridiculous posts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
23 November 2017, 04:00 AM | #22 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
|
Quote:
The Trulli is one of my favourite APs. It is just such a great looking watch. If you go for this then major congratulations are in order. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
23 November 2017, 08:16 AM | #23 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,242
|
I think of Basquiat when I look at the Alinghi.
|
23 November 2017, 08:20 AM | #24 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
|
|
23 November 2017, 08:21 AM | #25 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,242
|
I don't know, just the two images pop into my mind every time.
I miss Jem too, was funny how he disagreed with himself thru the course of a paragraph. |
5 December 2017, 02:40 AM | #26 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
|
|
5 December 2017, 03:39 AM | #27 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 59,242
|
Its the teeth.
|
5 December 2017, 03:49 AM | #28 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 17,622
|
|
5 December 2017, 06:03 AM | #29 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Ash
Location: UK
Watch: AP Royal Oak
Posts: 4,544
|
|
5 December 2017, 06:51 AM | #30 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: World
Watch: 16750
Posts: 2,719
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.