Gilt Dial??

[Tavli3]

Hey guys does this look like a Gilt dial to you? Print looks as bright white as can be to me. Scratching my head on this one.

https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/w...512-154/102501

[roh123]

It’s a gilt dial yes. Sometimes the gilt printing is pale. Sometimes it is goldy and even orange. It’s a nice watch with some wear and changed hands. Too cheap right now.

[Tavli3]

Thanks roh, whats the tell on the changed hands. Too new looking?

[Haywood_Milton]

Part of a batch of 5512s that was at least 750 in number, some even more interesting ones among them.

Insta : haywood_milton_rolex

[RolexBrian]

That's a sweet Gilt

[roh123]

Originally Posted by Tavli3

Thanks roh, whats the tell on the changed hands. Too new looking?

Minute hand is short.

[Tavli3]

Originally Posted by roh123

Minute hand is short.

Sold for $37,500.00 including buyers premium not too bad considering some of the insane auction prices I have seen over the past year or so.
But to me if I'm buying a gilt dial it has to be gold color not casper the ghost white like this one.

[roh123]

Bargain. :)

[milwatch126]

Looks relumed to me using the slide?

M

[Tavli3]

Originally Posted by milwatch126

Looks relumed to me using the slide?

M

Was wondering the same thing since it has the same exact shade of color as the now infamous 1675 but I disregarded it as me being paranoid. The lume is not nearly as perfectly textured.

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by Tavli3

Was wondering the same thing since it has the same exact shade of color as the now infamous 1675 but I disregarded it as me being paranoid. The lume is not nearly as perfectly textured.

You’re talking about two watches whose photos have each been processed and color edited (as are all high profile sales photos) as having the exact same shade of color. I think you really need to see them both in person, side by side to make that conclusion. Preferably, with the exact same lighting. I’m not saying there’s no way it can’t be relumed, but jumping from the first conclusion that it’s not a gilt dial, to comparing it to another watch’s lume shade is a a bit of a leap.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Tavli3

Was wondering the same thing since it has the same exact shade of color as the now infamous 1675 but I disregarded it as me being paranoid. The lume is not nearly as perfectly textured.

Perhaps hands have been stabilised. Zoomed in they look like they’ve got a varnish covering.

[Dan S]

Regardless of the color of the printing, that's a lovely dial IMO. Congrats to the buyer.

[Tavli3]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

You’re talking about two watches whose photos have each been processed and color edited (as are all high profile sales photos) as having the exact same shade of color. I think you really need to see them both in person, side by side to make that conclusion. Preferably, with the exact same lighting. I’m not saying there’s no way it can’t be relumed, but jumping from the first conclusion that it’s not a gilt dial, to comparing it to another watch’s lume shade is a a bit of a leap.

Agree was being just a bit paranoid.
Not to be tiresome but would like to know for my own education if Gilt writing was made from the printing being blocked from the black coating over a brass plate thus the gold color.
If the plate is brass how is the writing white? Is it the aging process??


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[1watch]

Originally Posted by Tavli3

Agree was being just a bit paranoid.
Not to be tiresome but would like to know for my own education if Gilt writing was made from the printing being blocked from the black coating over a brass plate thus the gold color.
If the plate is brass how is the writing white? Is it the aging process??


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The brass dial blank is electroplated before the dial has black paint applied. That process allows the signature print and coronet to come through from the brass blank in relief to the black portion of the dial. A coating of lacquer is added on top of the paint and is what gives these dials the gloss shine. Some have aged with crazing, which is the top layer of lacquer cracking. I've heard it could be due to different surface tensions of the lacquer to paint and temp extremes causing variation in how the two layers reacted in the past. Many times as mentioned by Per, the print is lighter or gold or orangish, depending on material variations I'm sure. Either way, they are all a giltish or gold tone to some degree and are in relief to the black color of the dial, as opposed to the white printing on top of the dial in later matte examples.

[Tavli3]

Thanks!