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Old 16 February 2019, 10:44 AM   #121
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There is concavity, I looked specifically for it. It's also mentioned in the right ups - the concavity is in one direction, from 12 to 6, on the top surface and seemingly at 90 degrees, from 3 to 9, on the underside.

I’m not sure about this. I expected there to be a “dip” in the crystal, so wanted to see how the crystal rose and fell on the edges of the bezel, but when I rotated around the side of the case, the crystal looked level above the bezel, like any other box crystal. I wondered if maybe the bezel was slightly concave but I didn’t see that either. My SA saw what I was checking, and said the crystal is actually flat on top.

That didn’t make sense to me, given the “double curved” description and the mentions in the web blog write-ups, as you say. But she told me to feel it, and it did feel flat. But I’m not 100% sure. Maybe if I put it face down on the table, I could tell for sure.
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Old 17 February 2019, 02:00 PM   #122
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Well, apparently there is an incoming, not here but in AP puristpro forum. A first as far as I know, brave guy. He got a WG black dial chrono. As suspected, legibility is better under natural lighting.
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Old 17 February 2019, 04:36 PM   #123
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New movements looks great.

But not the dials.
The minute ring on that white dial model looks particularly awful.
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Old 17 February 2019, 05:35 PM   #124
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I was planning to go look at the perpetual calendar 1159 but it was sold before I could find time to visit the boutique. At least that one seems to be selling.
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Old 17 February 2019, 06:17 PM   #125
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Thanks for the moderate and mature report of your evaluation, Ben!
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Old 17 February 2019, 10:40 PM   #126
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I am going to go check these out this week. I am not convinced by the pics - hopefully seeing them in the flesh will change that.
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Old 18 February 2019, 01:56 AM   #127
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Don’t slag off the straps - it may be the only nice thing left on this watches, so could be a redeeming factor for APs CEO when the time comes for his annual performance appraisal... “look, I know these uglies didn’t sell but we can melt the cases and RE-USE the straps, isn’t it cool?”
It would be surprising and ironic if the leather straps are the best part of this as the leathers are the weakest part of the RO and ROO watches.
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Old 18 February 2019, 09:16 AM   #128
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Looks like AP ripped off Guess or Tissot. Looks incredibly cheap and boring. Whoever said Michael Kors is right on the money.

And for those who bring up that the Royal Oak was not well recieved upon it's release, it is because the RO was radical, angular, brutish, expensive and down right in your face. Nothing about the CODE 1159 is radical.
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Old 18 February 2019, 09:38 AM   #129
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Sorry, the black dial looks like a Tag and an IWC had a drunk night full of regret. White dial isn't as bad but I'd rather keep my money.
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Old 18 February 2019, 01:04 PM   #130
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Swing and a miss.
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Old 19 February 2019, 02:00 AM   #131
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Took a quick trip to tokyo and needed service for my watch, i too had the chance to see the code. I wanted to judge after seeing it irl. Finish is good, i cant get pass the dial though. The blue minute repeater is a beauty though.

For some reason they wouldnt let me take pics of the movement. Movement is a work of art though.







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Old 19 February 2019, 02:02 AM   #132
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Its not growing on me. At all.
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Old 19 February 2019, 06:06 AM   #133
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Its not growing on me. At all.
I agree. The more I see them the less I like them. No positives at all...
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Old 19 February 2019, 07:51 AM   #134
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I agree. The more I see them the less I like them. No positives at all...
It's tough...the watch could have been soooo cool with the dial texture and indices of the RO series...would have made for a great hybrid, but these just look like a very plain way to spend a lot of money.
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Old 19 February 2019, 07:12 PM   #135
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I got to see the watches today. I don’t think they’re as bad as everyone is making them out to be. In fact, I don’t think they’re bad at all. In person, they are perfectly executed watches that sit beautifully on the wrist. I really liked the rose gold white dial version and may consider it.

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Old 19 February 2019, 10:27 PM   #136
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Nice pics above, but as been said before the side view gives a nice glimpse of the triumphant case but then the crystal looks so distorted and fiendish.
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Old 19 February 2019, 10:53 PM   #137
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Burn it with fire.
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Old 19 February 2019, 11:42 PM   #138
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Can we stop pretending that there are redeeming design qualities in this watch?

Montblanc Time Walker Lugs:


OH MAN SO FU**ING ORIGINAL!

I prefer the original dial:



The movement is probably great.

The design is UNDENIABLY Shit.

No matter how many times you stick your nose into AP's rear and take a big whiff, you're not going to convince me this is a "Risky Design" or "Game Changer" or "Awesome" or whatever contrived catch phrase you want to attempt to use to justify this giant steaming pile.
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Old 19 February 2019, 11:59 PM   #139
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Ha ha, I kinda like the Timewalker skeleton lugs, but they don’t compare to the engineering and finishing on the Code 11.59 lugs.

That DW dial has very little in common with the Code 11.59 chrono dial.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:05 AM   #140
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Burn it with fire.
you must really hate these watches.

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Ha ha, I kinda like the Timewalker skeleton lugs, but they don’t compare to the engineering and finishing on the Code 11.59 lugs.

That DW dial has very little in common with the Code 11.59 chrono dial.
To be honest, the chrono dials bears an uncanny resemblence to the DW, and also the Armani chronos. That's where the word "CHEAP" start flashing off in some people's mind.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:16 AM   #141
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Finally Saw it irl the controversial Code 11.59

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To be honest, the chrono dials bears an uncanny resemblence to the DW...
I just don’t see it, Ben. Not with that particular DW, at least.





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That's where the word "CHEAP" start flashing off in some people's mind.
The design might not be the most original, but it does not look “cheap”, at least not to me.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:21 AM   #142
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I just don’t see it, Ben. Not with that particular DW, at least.

The design might not be the most original, but it does not look “cheap”, at least not to to me.
It certainly doesn't looks cheap, of course not, but what I mean is that by association with brands like DW/Armani due to the resemblance, the word comes to the mind of some people.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:25 AM   #143
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Ha ha, I kinda like the Timewalker skeleton lugs, but they don’t compare to the engineering and finishing on the Code 11.59 lugs.

That DW dial has very little in common with the Code 11.59 chrono dial.
I have no problem with the timewalker lugs.

I have a problem treating AP like geniuses for replicating the same theme.

In fact, alot of Timewalker designs bear a resemblance to the new AP line.






One thing is for sure, AP made an OK Homage to the Montblanc.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:41 AM   #144
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Nice pics above, but as been said before the side view gives a nice glimpse of the triumphant case but then the crystal looks so distorted and fiendish.


That distorted crystal look is a lot more pronounced in pictures. Doesn’t look like that in real life
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:50 AM   #145
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The design might not be the most original, but it does not look “cheap”, at least not to to me.

Agreed. I was definitely surprised by how much I actually liked the watch when I had it on my wrist.
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Old 20 February 2019, 01:06 AM   #146
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Agreed. I was definitely surprised by how much I actually liked the watch when I had it on my wrist.
It is a perfectly acceptable $1000-$3000 watch design to compete with Montblanc, Tag Heuer, Longines, Frederique Constant, Raymond Weil, and Movado.
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Old 20 February 2019, 01:17 AM   #147
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It is a perfectly acceptable $1000-$3000 watch design to compete with Montblanc, Tag Heuer, Longines, Frederique Constant, Raymond Weil, and Movado.


Good for you buddy. You got that off your chest. Feeling better now?
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Old 20 February 2019, 02:06 AM   #148
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Don’t think these are for me. But don’t feel strongly enough to get all worked up about it either. Great thing is that if I do not like it I do not have to buy it.
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Old 20 February 2019, 02:20 AM   #149
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Don’t think these are for me. But don’t feel strongly enough to get all worked up about it either. Great thing is that if I do not like it I do not have to buy it.
You're correct. I shouldn't get worked up about it.

Buy what YOU love!
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Old 20 February 2019, 02:45 AM   #150
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I think the MSRP on these pieces are too high.

If they lowered the MSRP to just a tad under $20k for the plain date/second hand dials, it would garner some popularity.

In my opinion some of the hate for the 11.59 is that a lot of people do not perceive their design to warrant such a high MSRP.
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