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Old 23 March 2020, 11:40 PM   #31
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Old 23 March 2020, 11:54 PM   #32
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Would you guys still buy the hot models like black ceramic perpetual calendar or 15407 rose gold/SS if your dealer call you now that they're available for sale? this is gonna be a tough choice despite there might be a potential down trend for the market.
At MSRP? Yes of course. At current grey market prices? For sure not.

(this counts only for these models as the absolute premium has been very high and I doubt they came down BELOW MSRP)
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Old 24 March 2020, 07:21 AM   #33
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I’m always happier and actively try to pay less irrespective of circumstances. I mean, isn’t that everyone’s prime directive?
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Old 24 March 2020, 09:27 AM   #34
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Would you guys still buy the hot models like black ceramic perpetual calendar or 15407 rose gold/SS if your dealer call you now that they're available for sale? this is gonna be a tough choice despite there might be a potential down trend for the market.
The boutique? Absolutely, no question. (15407RG for me)
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Old 26 March 2020, 05:26 AM   #35
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Hopefully this unfortunate economic downturn will end the crazy sport watch bubble. All the speculators trying to make a quick buck on watches will have a reality check really soon.....
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Old 26 March 2020, 01:03 PM   #36
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Would you guys still buy the hot models like black ceramic perpetual calendar or 15407 rose gold/SS if your dealer call you now that they're available for sale? this is gonna be a tough choice despite there might be a potential down trend for the market.
Heck yes on a 15202st and 15407st!!
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Old 5 April 2020, 08:08 PM   #37
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Interested to see actual reduction figures (if any), I am in the market for 15202ST for the last 2 years with zero luck. I don't believe in paying premiums for grey dealers so would be good to see them available for real collectors who honestly love the piece
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Old 7 April 2020, 04:51 AM   #38
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Honestly, I wouldn’t ask for a discount from an AD. If you were paying over the odds preowned that’s different; but it feels a bit off to try and low-ball given the current covid situation when they have sourced one for you in good faith.
I agree with you.

If you buy at msrp, it should be OK.
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Old 9 April 2020, 01:09 AM   #39
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I agree with you.

If you buy at msrp, it should be OK.

Yes but giving the situation a decided to put my order on hold for the moment...
Not the right time to buy a 20k+ watch
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Old 9 April 2020, 01:11 AM   #40
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Interested to see actual reduction figures (if any), I am in the market for 15202ST for the last 2 years with zero luck. I don't believe in paying premiums for grey dealers so would be good to see them available for real collectors who honestly love the piece
This one is very very hard to get.
I think it's the only watch in the current collection of Audemars Piguet that's worth X2 MSRP...

Do you have any history in an AP boutique?
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Old 9 April 2020, 02:40 AM   #41
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Yes but giving the situation a decided to put my order on hold for the moment...
Not the right time to buy a 20k+ watch
I agree with you 100%. Watches are luxury items only, don't buy somethings that not necessary in the bad time right this.
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Old 10 April 2020, 11:59 PM   #42
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I think there is a lot of political correctness going on here to be honest. Conkers - your collection is super super valuable and you’re about to spend god knows how much on an AP this week (fair play, I’m sure you deserve it). But it kind of goes against what you’ve said above re being hugely price sensitive - if we are all expecting a massive recession and that watches will come down in price, surely now is not the best time to buy it? IMO, you don’t care that the prices may come down because you’re financially strong enough to not care about it. Human beings don’t like to admit (openly) that they’re too wealthy to care about £1k here or £2k there as it’s seen as arrogant or insensitive, but let’s face it, it’s a reality if we are being honest with ourselves.
I’ve obviously rubbed a few people up the wrong way - I haven’t meant to, I just think most on here say what they think they should say for fear of offending rather than saying how they really feel.
Blunt delivery at first, but you’re absolutely correct. If a person is concerned over a thousand dollar market fluctuation on luxury goods then they don’t have the disposable income to buy an AP. It’s comical that some people on here with six and seven figure collections are pretending a few thousand dollars is a game changer for them.
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Old 11 April 2020, 12:30 AM   #43
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This one is very very hard to get.
I think it's the only watch in the current collection of Audemars Piguet that's worth X2 MSRP...

Do you have any history in an AP boutique?

Unfortunately not. I am trying build history. BTW it is not the only watch that sells with high premium, the skeleton as well as all ceramic perpetual calendar models sell very high as well.
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I took delivery from my AP boutique yesterday.
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Old 11 April 2020, 01:47 AM   #45
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Unfortunately not. I am trying build history. BTW it is not the only watch that sells with high premium, the skeleton as well as all ceramic perpetual calendar models sell very high as well.
Everything is about the relation that you have with your sales rep. Audemars Piguet take a lot of importance about who they sell their specials watches to.

Sometimes even with very low previous purchases. But again depends on you AD, location demand vs supply etc you know the story

Not the only one that sell prenium but the only one that does X2 of MSRP ...
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Old 11 April 2020, 01:49 AM   #46
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I took delivery from my AP boutique yesterday.
AWESOME which piece??
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Old 11 April 2020, 02:54 AM   #47
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15500st blue :)
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Old 11 April 2020, 03:45 AM   #48
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15500st blue :)
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Old 11 April 2020, 05:16 AM   #49
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I think there is a lot of political correctness going on here to be honest. Conkers - your collection is super super valuable and you’re about to spend god knows how much on an AP this week (fair play, I’m sure you deserve it). But it kind of goes against what you’ve said above re being hugely price sensitive - if we are all expecting a massive recession and that watches will come down in price, surely now is not the best time to buy it? IMO, you don’t care that the prices may come down because you’re financially strong enough to not care about it. Human beings don’t like to admit (openly) that they’re too wealthy to care about £1k here or £2k there as it’s seen as arrogant or insensitive, but let’s face it, it’s a reality if we are being honest with ourselves.
I’ve obviously rubbed a few people up the wrong way - I haven’t meant to, I just think most on here say what they think they should say for fear of offending rather than saying how they really feel.
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Also one can still negotiate and be nice about it and just tell the AD your honest opinion that you appreciate that he got you the watch but given the current environment you feel a discount is is the way to go. I for one always try to negotiate but then some family members including my wife always get embarrassed and can't stand it ... go with your gut and make sure you regret nothing.
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Old 11 April 2020, 05:20 AM   #50
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Discounts? I would love to just buy at MSRP.
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Old 11 April 2020, 06:01 AM   #51
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Discounts? I would love to just buy at MSRP.
I would say just wait and see... discounts must be around the corner once watches stop selling and everyone is sitting on inventory
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Old 26 September 2020, 11:52 PM   #52
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So, how did ya’ll go with getting those discounts?
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Old 27 September 2020, 02:17 AM   #53
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I hate threads like this, and even more so when we all can play Monday-morning quarterback.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, knew what was going to happen back in March/April. Prices dipped maybe 10% for a very short period of time, and as we now know they are up 10% to 25% almost across the board. Will it last? Will it "correct"? Who the hell knows. I'm done trying to figure out what the right time to buy a watch is. If you truly love it and have the funds, it'll work out for the best. That's the only guarantee in all of this.
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Old 27 September 2020, 06:33 AM   #54
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So, how did ya’ll go with getting those discounts?
I got a 15202 with 25% discount just haven't shared the info with forum:)
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Old 27 September 2020, 08:09 AM   #55
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I got a 15202 with 25% discount just haven't shared the info with forum:)

Damn! I should’a dumped mine at MSRP while I had the chance.
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Old 27 September 2020, 09:54 AM   #56
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Conkers - your collection is super super valuable and you’re about to spend god knows how much on an AP this week (fair play, I’m sure you deserve it). But it kind of goes against what you’ve said above re being hugely price sensitive.......
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It’s comical that some people on here with six and seven figure collections are pretending a few thousand dollars is a game changer for them.
I don’t understand these comments. What relevance does price sensitivity have to the value of a collection? Why is it comical - a few thousand dollars is a lot of money full stop if you ask me.
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Old 27 September 2020, 01:46 PM   #58
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I don’t understand these comments. What relevance does price sensitivity have to the value of a collection? Why is it comical - a few thousand dollars is a lot of money full stop if you ask me.
If you read in between the lines it’s very easy to identify people who speak from experience, versus others that speak from a hypothetical perspective. Of course a few thousand is a lot of money, and those who actually earn it and have it will continue to maintain that perspective.
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If you read in between the lines it’s very easy to identify people who speak from experience, versus others that speak from a hypothetical perspective. Of course a few thousand is a lot of money, and those who actually earn it and have it will continue to maintain that perspective.
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Old 27 September 2020, 09:53 PM   #60
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If you read in between the lines it’s very easy to identify people who speak from experience, versus others that speak from a hypothetical perspective. Of course a few thousand is a lot of money, and those who actually earn it and have it will continue to maintain that perspective.
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I don’t understand these comments. What relevance does price sensitivity have to the value of a collection? Why is it comical - a few thousand dollars is a lot of money full stop if you ask me.
Why is this being rehashed? I forgot about this old thread, isn’t there a time deadline for new sassy commentary . Anyway, no disrespect was meant conkers. Your collection is a dream (from what I’ve seen you post) and I’m sure you are a hard worker in whatever it is that you do. My point was simply that when you are regularly spending who knows how much on exorbitantly priced watches it’s a silly notion to pretend that you are ultra price sensitive. Regardless of this moral facade, I’m sure that if there was a watch you liked for 202k instead of 200k you wouldn’t think twice before telling AP to charge it to your account with them.
Note: I’m obviously highlighting the “few thousand dollar” difference, I’m not implying a 200k purchase goes without thought.
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