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30 March 2020, 01:36 AM | #1 |
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16570 Exp 2 Cyclops
Bought this from a member last week. Loving the watch so far. Thought that the magnifying was a bit off, more like 2x vs 2.5x. Saw that there are several threads pointing out inconsistencies. Just wanted some peace of mind, second opinion. Definitely is a a replacement sapphire given the laser-etched logo.
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30 March 2020, 01:38 AM | #2 |
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Looks smaller than my 16570 and 16700
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30 March 2020, 10:57 AM | #4 |
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More pics & movement (from seller). Just want to get confirmation everything besides the magnifying looks good as that seems to be an issue in many threads.
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30 March 2020, 11:06 AM | #5 |
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99% nothing wrong with that watch. The only reason I'm not 100% percent is because I'm not holding it in my hand with my loupe.
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31 March 2020, 05:40 AM | #6 |
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Watch is all genuine and looks good to me.
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Upon review of the additional pix, it all looks good to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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31 March 2020, 07:53 AM | #8 |
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Appears ok of course more pics would
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31 March 2020, 08:30 AM | #9 |
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Looks fine to me
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3rd link has multiple photos - its good Regards adam
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31 March 2020, 09:48 AM | #11 |
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It's a legit service crystal.
However, OP is not crazy. There was a period where the magnification of the cyclops was a bit off with both service and production crystals. This appears to be one of those. |
31 March 2020, 11:40 AM | #12 |
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I bought my Exp II new from my local AD a couple of years ago and thought the same thing. Magnification looks too small. So I sent it back, Rolex Canada replaced the crystal while apologizing profusely, and I now have an Exp II with exactly the same magnification as before but which has been opened up and worked on.
My advice in retrospect? Live with it, it isn't a PP.
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31 March 2020, 12:18 PM | #13 |
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31 March 2020, 01:11 PM | #14 |
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Thanks all! Love the watch! It will inevitably need to be serviced in the next few years, so I will be patient, from some of the pictures I've seen it could be worse!
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31 March 2020, 03:56 PM | #15 |
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I’m still learning, but I like to see pictures of the serial and model number etching along with seeing if the clasp code year matches the serial year along with all the other pics you got.
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Can’t post a picture yet but it’s an identical cyclops to OPs. |
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I can just about see the LEC with light shining on it from the 12 o'clock position with the naked eye which I guess rules out an after-market crystal. I have no chance of telling if there's an 's' in there or not though! Maybe I'll buy a loupe for peace of mind. I just read on Millenary Watches that the 16570 didn't get the LEC until 2006 so the most likely scenario seems to be it got one of those service crystals in 2012/13. |
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That would be my guess. |
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9 July 2020, 11:18 PM | #20 |
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Ok, so I picked up a loupe and snapped a picture through it. The LEC has no 's' inside.
Attached a picture of the LEC and a couple of the cyclops. Am I losing my mind or is the magnification low? |
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Magnification seems low.
LEC does not look original Rolex to me. That said it could be your photo. A
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Is it generally possible to take a pre-owned watch to your local AD to verify things like this? If not the AD then who could I go to?
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I.e/or . RSC
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10 July 2020, 12:38 AM | #25 |
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And (sorry to keep asking questions) they could possibly swap it out, without agreeing to an entire service?
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10 July 2020, 12:39 AM | #26 |
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If it’s aftermarket they would insist on replacing as part of a service
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12 August 2020, 11:51 PM | #27 |
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Just to update in case anyone finds this thread from a google search: I took the watch to my local RSC and they confirmed the crystal was after-market. They replaced it as part of a ‘basic service’ which totalled €305. The seller I bought it from who is otherwise reputable apologised profusely and paid for the replacement crystal. It all worked out in the end! Thanks for your help guys.
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