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Antoinerob · 12 October 2013, 05:24 PM

Hi there,

Here is a pic of my white 1680 (serial# 5.368.xxx).

Any help to determine the type of the dial would be really helpful (Mark ?).

Thanks in advance.

Greetings from Paris-France

Antoine

TimeToGo · 12 October 2013, 09:43 PM

Welcome to the Forum!

Your dial is a service replacement tritium dial.

Antoinerob · 12 October 2013, 10:20 PM

Thank you for your reply and your welcome Timetogo.
Would you please teach me what makes it a service dial. I am a newbbie and I thought it was a Mark IV dial.
Antoine

TimeToGo · 13 October 2013, 12:46 AM

The basic understanding is that the 1680 only came with three different dials from the factory. The fourth version, what you refer as the MK-4, is the tritium service / replacement dial.

Check this thread out, it has been discussed quite a bit:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=1680+mk4

TimeToGo · 13 October 2013, 12:47 AM

Oh and by the way, forgive my manners....

That is one FINE LOOKING watch you have there!

Congrats!

stevedssd · 13 October 2013, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

The basic understanding is that the 1680 only came with three different dials from the factory. The fourth version, what you refer as the MK-4, is the tritium service / replacement dial.

Check this thread out, it has been discussed quite a bit:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=1680+mk4

TimeToGo is spot on and the link provided is an accurate and great read. The service dial is quite similar to the Mk 2, the most obvious differences are the Coronet and the more open 6's in 660.

And that is indeed a lovely watch you have

Antoinerob · 13 October 2013, 02:40 AM

Thank you both for your replies.
This watch is really great with a thick case and its box, punched papers, tags...
I will therefore source a correct vintage dial and matching hands to get it back to its original condition ;-)
Nice project! I do love that!!!!
Antoine

Vincent65 · 13 October 2013, 02:55 AM

I'd leave that dial on it - looks good to me.

fmc000 · 13 October 2013, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antoinerob

Thank you both for your replies.
This watch is really great with a thick case and its box, punched papers, tags...
I will therefore source a correct vintage dial and matching hands to get it back to its original condition ;-)
Nice project! I do love that!!!!
Antoine

Even nicer if you think that you already have a great dial on your watch and thus no hurry at all!

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Beaumont Miller II · 13 October 2013, 05:54 AM

Great looking watch. I agree no need to hurry finding a dial. It looks great as it is.

A small teaching point if I may.
The Mk I, II, and III 1680 dials have closed 6's. When you see an authentic 1680 dial with open 6's, it is a service/replacement dial.

strafer_kid · 13 October 2013, 06:16 AM

1680 is a beautiful watch - picked one up a few years back (at quite a cost as it turned out) and love it! Enjoy!

stevedssd · 13 October 2013, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Great looking watch. I agree no need to hurry finding a dial. It looks great as it is.

A small teaching point if I may.
The Mk I, II, and III 1680 dials have closed 6's. When you see an authentic 1680 dial with open 6's, it is a service/replacement dial.

+1

CrownMe · 13 October 2013, 09:07 AM

Can somebody help me identify this sub? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I know its a 1680. Just curious about what mark the dial is. Thanks

laphroaig007 · 13 October 2013, 09:39 AM

Looks like a Mark II...

springer · 13 October 2013, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaumont miller ii

great looking watch. I agree no need to hurry finding a dial. It looks great as it is.

A small teaching point if i may.
The mk i, ii, and iii 1680 dials have closed 6's. When you see an authentic 1680 dial with open 6's, it is a service/replacement dial.

x2.

Beef · 13 October 2013, 10:13 AM

Welcome!! It looks great!! I wouldn't touch a thing!!!

stevedssd · 13 October 2013, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownMe

Can somebody help me identify this sub? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I know its a 1680. Just curious about what mark the dial is. Thanks

This appears to be another type of service dial that has a much narrower gap between 660ft and the = sign and then again with 200m. The narrowing of the gap puts the top of the f in ft below the A rather than M in Submariner. I can't find the link but there was a discussion on this type of dial that began on 6th of Sept 13.

Happy to be corrected by those with far more knowledge than I

sea-dweller · 14 October 2013, 01:11 AM

That is a beauty!

jhcam8 · 14 October 2013, 02:32 AM

Looks great - congrats!

Beaumont Miller II · 14 October 2013, 02:47 AM

Steve I agree that it appears to be a service dial. The top of the "f" in feet going over the "t" is characteristic of one of the service dials for the Great White.

stevedssd · 14 October 2013, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Steve I agree that it appears to be a service dial. The top of the "f" in feet going over the "t" is characteristic of one of the service dials for the Great White.

Thanks for confirming and adding to my knowledge about the Great White, didn't know that.

Puffy · 14 October 2013, 03:33 AM

sweet looking!

CrownMe · 14 October 2013, 05:30 AM

thanks for the info guys

SUBversive · 14 October 2013, 05:53 AM

Welcome nice watch. This 1680 dial issue still drives me crazy. The more I stare at this 4 variants the more they look the same.

Beaumont Miller II · 14 October 2013, 07:05 AM

I agree.
Rather than look at the link provided with the four dials, I prefer the Vrf classic post by Marcello Pisani that outlines the dials I, II, and III. In addition, he provided the name of the dial manufacturer for each one.

Antoinerob · 16 October 2013, 05:07 AM

Thanks Gentlemen!
I remember a post where a fellow member showed the back of a service (mark IV) dial with a single "B" punched on the back (for Beyeler).
There is (I believe) one more service (mark IV) dial for sale on Ebay here with different markings on the back (and adding to the confusion):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-O-S-ROLEX-...00916374939%26

I do - by no way - want to contest the knowledge of our VRF communauty but how would you explain that most of these dials (or all) are seen on 5millions production numbers watches?

Just a newbbie question so please pardon my ignorance! Again, no offense here!

Thanks!
Antoine

springer · 16 October 2013, 07:32 AM

Here is another 1680 dial, NOS, to add to everyone's confusion. This one is hallmarked Rolex on the back.

1675-David · 16 October 2013, 03:56 PM

Springer:

that appears to the same dial as I have on my 1680, same slight downturn on the foot of the 2 in 200m. And is almost certainly a service replacement as I should have a Mk. IV red dial (case 2.7mil)

marcello pisani · 17 October 2013, 12:59 AM

altough the fonts look to be the very same : your dial is the 1st replacement model ( made by Lemrich )
still with tritium ( and with flat indexes ) , while the dial shared by Springer is a much later replacement ( signed " ROLEX 2 " in the back ) with luminova domed indexes ( aka " toothpaste " )
the dial in David's watch is like this :

1675-David · 17 October 2013, 02:01 AM

thank you Marcello!! As always your word is gospel! One thing I have notice with my dial is the text is applied with less paint than earlier versions.

13 October 2013, 05:54 AM	#10
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Great looking watch. I agree no need to hurry finding a dial. It looks great as it is. A small teaching point if I may. The Mk I, II, and III 1680 dials have closed 6's. When you see an authentic 1680 dial with open 6's, it is a service/replacement dial. __________________

13 October 2013, 09:39 AM	#14
laphroaig007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Marc Location: France Watch: 116710 & PAM372 Posts: 1,019	Looks like a Mark II... __________________ Always look on the bright side of life... Watch addict...

13 October 2013, 10:13 AM	#16
Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,824	Welcome!! It looks great!! I wouldn't touch a thing!!! __________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." "So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

14 October 2013, 02:47 AM	#20
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Steve I agree that it appears to be a service dial. The top of the "f" in feet going over the "t" is characteristic of one of the service dials for the Great White. __________________

14 October 2013, 03:33 AM	#22
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	sweet looking! __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

12 October 2013, 09:43 PM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,612	Welcome to the Forum! Your dial is a service replacement tritium dial.

12 October 2013, 10:20 PM	#3
Antoinerob "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Paris-France Watch: 1600/15200/116500 Posts: 226	Thank you for your reply and your welcome Timetogo. Would you please teach me what makes it a service dial. I am a newbbie and I thought it was a Mark IV dial. Antoine

13 October 2013, 12:46 AM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,612	The basic understanding is that the 1680 only came with three different dials from the factory. The fourth version, what you refer as the MK-4, is the tritium service / replacement dial. Check this thread out, it has been discussed quite a bit: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=1680+mk4

13 October 2013, 12:47 AM	#5
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,612	Oh and by the way, forgive my manners.... That is one FINE LOOKING watch you have there! Congrats!

13 October 2013, 02:40 AM	#7
Antoinerob "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Paris-France Watch: 1600/15200/116500 Posts: 226	Thank you both for your replies. This watch is really great with a thick case and its box, punched papers, tags... I will therefore source a correct vintage dial and matching hands to get it back to its original condition ;-) Nice project! I do love that!!!! Antoine

13 October 2013, 02:55 AM	#8
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	I'd leave that dial on it - looks good to me.

13 October 2013, 06:16 AM	#11
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,127	1680 is a beautiful watch - picked one up a few years back (at quite a cost as it turned out) and love it! Enjoy!

14 October 2013, 01:11 AM	#18
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	That is a beauty!

14 October 2013, 02:32 AM	#19
jhcam8 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: SE MI, USA Watch: Sub C Posts: 2,067	Looks great - congrats!

14 October 2013, 05:30 AM	#23
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	thanks for the info guys

14 October 2013, 05:53 AM	#24
SUBversive Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: ri Watch: Sun Dial Posts: 14,346	Welcome nice watch. This 1680 dial issue still drives me crazy. The more I stare at this 4 variants the more they look the same.

14 October 2013, 07:05 AM	#25
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	I agree. Rather than look at the link provided with the four dials, I prefer the Vrf classic post by Marcello Pisani that outlines the dials I, II, and III. In addition, he provided the name of the dial manufacturer for each one. __________________

16 October 2013, 05:07 AM	#26
Antoinerob "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Paris-France Watch: 1600/15200/116500 Posts: 226	Thanks Gentlemen! I remember a post where a fellow member showed the back of a service (mark IV) dial with a single "B" punched on the back (for Beyeler). There is (I believe) one more service (mark IV) dial for sale on Ebay here with different markings on the back (and adding to the confusion): http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-O-S-ROLEX-...00916374939%26 I do - by no way - want to contest the knowledge of our VRF communauty but how would you explain that most of these dials (or all) are seen on 5millions production numbers watches? Just a newbbie question so please pardon my ignorance! Again, no offense here! Thanks! Antoine

16 October 2013, 03:56 PM	#28
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,024	Springer: that appears to the same dial as I have on my 1680, same slight downturn on the foot of the 2 in 200m. And is almost certainly a service replacement as I should have a Mk. IV red dial (case 2.7mil)

17 October 2013, 12:59 AM	#29
marcello pisani "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: italy Posts: 991	not exactly the same dial ... altough the fonts look to be the very same : your dial is the 1st replacement model ( made by Lemrich ) still with tritium ( and with flat indexes ) , while the dial shared by Springer is a much later replacement ( signed " ROLEX 2 " in the back ) with luminova domed indexes ( aka " toothpaste " ) the dial in David's watch is like this :

17 October 2013, 02:01 AM	#30
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,024	thank you Marcello!! As always your word is gospel! One thing I have notice with my dial is the text is applied with less paint than earlier versions.

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