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Old 16 December 2020, 02:23 AM   #91
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This is way better than the 2017 version, great job Hodinkee!
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:25 AM   #92
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:25 AM   #93
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I mean, I understand being upset at the perceived infringement on the tribute , but isn’t that the nature of refinement? I don’t think we can blame either brand for either allowing the collaboration or honoring the history. I mean, does the Speedmaster still sell?
It's one thing to refine a line of watches. It's fine to collaborate. It's fine to honor history.

What is not fine is telling customers of your very expensive watches that they are purchasing a limited run. Then, to turn around three years later and make essentially a carbon copy of that watch.
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:31 AM   #94
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It's one thing to refine a line of watches. It's fine to collaborate. It's fine to honor history.

What is not fine is telling customers of your very expensive watches that they are purchasing a limited run. Then, to turn around three years later and make essentially a carbon copy of that watch.

Watches are all about subtlety. I think there are enough differences here to justify both watches.
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:39 AM   #95
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Gorgeous piece. I was late to the party, but perhaps it was for the best
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:40 AM   #96
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Bought one too! Excited.
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:43 AM   #97
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:43 AM   #98
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Pretty sure hodinkee offers pain free returns. I bought one as well.
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Bought one too! Excited.
Can't wait! You know I was hitting refresh every few seconds so I didn't miss out.
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Old 16 December 2020, 02:44 AM   #99
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It's one thing to refine a line of watches. It's fine to collaborate. It's fine to honor history.



What is not fine is telling customers of your very expensive watches that they are purchasing a limited run. Then, to turn around three years later and make essentially a carbon copy of that watch.
So you bought one? I can't imagine this impacting the value of the previous run so not sure why this would frustrate you. I mean its not like what Rolex did to us white gold BLRO owners lol.

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Old 16 December 2020, 03:04 AM   #100
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So you bought one? I can't imagine this impacting the value of the previous run so not sure why this would frustrate you. I mean its not like what Rolex did to us white gold BLRO owners lol.

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It's not about value. I don't plan on selling my watch, especially since it marks a special occasion.

What this is, to me, is disingenuous. Three years later you make almost an exact copy of a limited run watch. I'd have zero problems with this if the 2017 version wasn't marked limited. This crosses a line for me, much more so than offering a steel version of a PM watch that numbered in the tens of thousands.
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:10 AM   #101
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It's not about value. I don't plan on selling my watch, especially since it marks a special occasion.

What this is, to me, is disingenuous. Three years later you make almost an exact copy of a limited run watch. I'd have zero problems with this if the 2017 version wasn't marked limited. This crosses a line for me, much more so than offering a steel version of a PM watch that numbered in the tens of thousands.

You still have the nice sunburst dial. Also I think
you could still sell the 2017 if you want fairly painlessly.

I somewhat agree though. Basically no brand can be trusted. Not grand seiko, not Rolex, not blancpain, not omega. Etc
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:13 AM   #102
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Very nice looking timepiece. Congrats to those who bought one!
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:14 AM   #103
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You still have the nice sunburst dial. Also I think
you could still sell the 2017 if you want fairly painlessly.

I somewhat agree though. Basically no brand can be trusted. Not grand seiko, not Rolex, not blancpain, not omega. Etc
When opportunity comes a knocking.....
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:22 AM   #104
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Great job Hodinkee. Just bought my first Blancpain. Finally a perfect FF.

I feel somewhat sorry for those who bought the 2017 version as this one is clearly nicer imo, but I doubt values will plummet.
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:34 AM   #105
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I’m loving No Blancpain on the side. 2017 has better bezel and coinage

The 2017 guys are OGs, your watch is awesome and I doubt going below your cost anytime soon. Sunburst was great when I briefly owned it

Here is the power of Hodinkee (not happy to admit it), I bought milspec and kuda at attractive discounts. This I paid msrp plus tax.
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:36 AM   #106
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Great job Hodinkee. Just bought my first Blancpain. Finally a perfect FF.

I feel somewhat sorry for those who bought the 2017 version as this one is clearly nicer imo, but I doubt values will plummet.
Bold statement. I am not so sure I'd say nicer. Would I rather not have a date? Yes. Do I prefer a brushed case? Meh, maybe slightly. Do I prefer the rounded bezel, star hour marker, minute hashes AND sunburst dial on my original. Yes, by a wide margin. So, it's no date and brushed case vs. what I perceive to be a much nicer dial and bezel.

I am with Speedmaster though. I am done with BP. Never again. Not one watch. Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice...

Happy for those who got it. Guess I will just stay happy with mine and the differences that I prefer in mine. Would have been nice to not have a date, but meh.
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:38 AM   #107
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I’m loving No Blancpain on the side. 2017 has better bezel and coinage

The 2017 guys are OGs, your watch is awesome and I doubt going below your cost anytime soon. Sunburst was great when I briefly owned it

Here is the power of Hodinkee (not happy to admit it), I bought milspec and kuda at attractive discounts. This I paid msrp plus tax.
Nailed it. It's no date and brushed vs better bezel and sunburst. Pick your poison.
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Old 16 December 2020, 03:56 AM   #108
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Nailed it. It's no date and brushed vs better bezel and sunburst. Pick your poison.
I agree. While these watches are clearly very similar to one another and while I can see why the owners of the 2017 version might be angry, there are a few important things that make them different from one another. My perfect version is neither or a combination of both: it would be the 2017 release with no date, no plaque, a brushed finish, and on a bracelet. Both versions are compromises for me, although I would, and did, choose the Hodinkee version.

Do you think a bracelet for this can be had from Blancpain?
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Old 16 December 2020, 04:03 AM   #109
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I agree. While these watches are clearly very similar to one another and while I can see why the owners of the 2017 version might be angry, there are a few important things that make them different from one another. My perfect version is neither or a combination of both: it would be the 2017 release with no date, no plaque, a brushed finish, and on a bracelet. Both versions are compromises for me, although I would, and did, choose the Hodinkee version.

Do you think a bracelet for this can be had from Blancpain?

With prior releases in this case it was possible although expensive. Not sure if the drilled lugs on the ND present any change in lug hole placement.
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Old 16 December 2020, 04:22 AM   #110
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Bold statement. I am not so sure I'd say nicer. Would I rather not have a date? Yes. Do I prefer a brushed case? Meh, maybe slightly. Do I prefer the rounded bezel, star hour marker, minute hashes AND sunburst dial on my original. Yes, by a wide margin. So, it's no date and brushed case vs. what I perceive to be a much nicer dial and bezel.

I am with Speedmaster though. I am done with BP. Never again. Not one watch. Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice...

Happy for those who got it. Guess I will just stay happy with mine and the differences that I prefer in mine. Would have been nice to not have a date, but meh.
This one does have the minute hashes, but I do agree with your assessment. I actually do prefer the polished case on the Tribute, as well the the bezel knurling/dome. Hope this Hodinkee version grows on me.
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Old 16 December 2020, 04:32 AM   #111
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I agree. While these watches are clearly very similar to one another and while I can see why the owners of the 2017 version might be angry, there are a few important things that make them different from one another. My perfect version is neither or a combination of both: it would be the 2017 release with no date, no plaque, a brushed finish, and on a bracelet. Both versions are compromises for me, although I would, and did, choose the Hodinkee version.

Do you think a bracelet for this can be had from Blancpain?
After looking at the new one from every angle I'd take the 2017, remove the plaque and make it a no date. I think the dial and bezel are FAR superior on the 2017, but there is no getting away from how cool a no date is. Maybe for the next LE (BP is probably going to ride this horse into the ground), maybe they will do the combined approach.

Bracelets are about 2500 bucks new. X71. 20mm lug width (they also make a 23mm).
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Old 16 December 2020, 04:44 AM   #112
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They are milking again. Lazy f....s. First the lady Bathy 38 as a special Hodinkee version. Now this. Same case, same dial.

It does look better without the date. This version or the original one, both are NOT worth the price do imo (mil-spec owner). To many flaws (bezel action, painted dial) Blancpain should just stop these limited special editions nonsense and just release a standard FF in 41
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Old 16 December 2020, 04:59 AM   #113
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They are milking again. Lazy f....s. First the lady Bathy 38 as a special Hodinkee version. Now this. Same case, same dial.

It does look better without the date. This version or the original one, both are NOT worth the price do imo (mil-spec owner). To many flaws (bezel action, painted dial) Blancpain should just stop these limited special editions nonsense and just release a standard FF in 41
I still like mine from 2017. But I will never ever give BP another cent as long as I live.
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:23 AM   #114
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:25 AM   #115
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Any sense of when we might expect to actually receive these?
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:36 AM   #116
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Any sense of when we might expect to actually receive these?
I believe the Hodinkee site noted shipping end of December
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:40 AM   #117
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Any sense of when we might expect to actually receive these?
Hodinkee said shipping end of December.

I totally get why 2017 owners are pissed, hell I am pissed at Doxa for doing the same thing with their anniversary Subs (though in that case it took and LE and made it standard production).

I bought the Hodinkee LE. To my eyes, the case is a staggering improvement without the Plaque, the dial is better without the date despite the loss of sunburst, and I'm moot on the bezel though leaning towards the Hodinkee LE.

Its a shitty move from BP, regardless.
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:43 AM   #118
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Wow beautiful release, congrats to those who got in on the purchase.
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:48 AM   #119
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Congrats, BP sold many timepieces with thanks to Hodinkee's marketing power. Maybe a Rolex PLN copy is next?
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Old 16 December 2020, 05:51 AM   #120
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